Terrorists to Target White People, so as to avoid Hate Crime

[Conserative Morality]

Why is it that there are so many anti-SJW supporters of ISIS?

[Cannot think of a name]

"Real" and "newsworthy" are entirely different concepts. As are 'contextualization', which is the brand that both The Foreign Desk and Fox sell.

This is the inherent problem in the game, really. It's not that they just make shit up wholesale, it would be so much easier if it was a Weekly World News situation where tales of Bat Boy and aliens posing as presidents could be easily chuckled away.

It's all in the framing. The context that the stories provide. So when a source that has a relatively obvious agenda or slant provides a story, even if there is a little truth nugget in there, the context that they provide for it to shape how you're supposed to feel about the story is the question, not whether or not someone somewhere said something about not killing people your target already kills on their own. So it does become noteworthy that only sources with a shared agenda share the story in a sort of verification loop where there is no independent reporting but simply repeating what one person said over and over again, the context and relative importance of the story should be questioned.

It's not as simple as 'Fox lies' or 'can you prove this isn't true.' That's a moronically simple way of looking at how information is dispersed.

But nobody's provided anything criticizing the framing of this. It's just all been "Oh, fox news, Im gonna ignore this"

I...alright. Enjoy your time on the cross.

[Jolet]

This is weird/ironic for someone like me to say this but...take a chill pill people...
it's news networks...so I agree with twilight imperium as far as the media goes...
Fun Fact: 6 companies own just about every media outlet in existence...excluding North Korea and some parts of Africa
If you target any ethnic any group for any reason at all ITS A HATE CRIME plain and simple...
(sips tea)(takes a dump on the pres. election voting machines)
Back to you Frank!!

I would argue that, if indeed there are only six companies that own all the news outlets (If you could please source that, it would be greatly appreciated) then there's been an overcorperatization of the news. Someone call Teddy, it looks like we need some trustbusting.

[Jolet]

Why is it that there are so many anti-SJW supporters of ISIS?

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What in the hey is that supposed to mean? Can you quantify that a bit better?

[PaNTuXIa]

Why is it that there are so many anti-SJW supporters of ISIS?

Because they see SJWs as thought police, which is ironic considering they want to establish a fascist theocracy. Modern SJWs have completely ruined feminism by being just as bad as the neo-nazi fucks they despise.

[Jolet]

Why is it that there are so many anti-SJW supporters of ISIS?

Because they see SJWs as thought police, which is ironic considering they want to establish a fascist theocracy. Modern SJWs have completely ruined feminism by being just as bad as the neo-nazi fucks they despise.

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Good lord, let's not paint entire groups with broad brushes, shall we? Isn't that what the entire discussion is about regarding Islam? While I'm not defending them, absolute statements like these seem absurd.

[Twilight Imperium]

That isn't what the post said, if you bothered to read it. OP is pointing out that because of our PC society, terrorists are more likely to target white people, because white people can never be victims of racism!

Oh please, the only person posting about the OP is the OP. This thread is about mass media now.

[Conserative Morality]

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What in the hey is that supposed to mean? Can you quantify that a bit better?

ISIS' goal is quite clearly to create a war between Islam as a whole and the West as a whole. An idea that, in my experience, anti-SJW types tend to wholeheartedly support.

[Ostroeuropa]

This is weird/ironic for someone like me to say this but...take a chill pill people...
it's news networks...so I agree with twilight imperium as far as the media goes...
Fun Fact: 6 companies own just about every media outlet in existence...excluding North Korea and some parts of Africa
If you target any ethnic any group for any reason at all ITS A HATE CRIME plain and simple...
(sips tea)(takes a dump on the pres. election voting machines)
Back to you Frank!!

I would argue that, if indeed there are only six companies that own all the news outlets (If you could please source that, it would be greatly appreciated) then there's been an overcorperatization of the news. Someone call Teddy, it looks like we need some trustbusting.

Of the corporate news sure, but online news is very different.

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What in the hey is that supposed to mean? Can you quantify that a bit better?

ISIS' goal is quite clearly to create a war between Islam as a whole and the West as a whole. An idea that, in my experience, anti-SJW types tend to wholeheartedly support.

Not all of them. There's distinct subsets of the anti-radical progressive backlash.

[The Black Forrest]

Isn't targeting white people a hate crime?

[Twilight Imperium]

Of the corporate news sure, but online news is very different.

Is it? Online news tends to be either a) part of the same complex, b) even more ideologically driven, or c) underfunded/extremely local. C is probably fine as long as it actually covers what you want, but still.

[Conserative Morality]

Isn't targeting white people a hate crime?

No because don't you see how these SJWs have taken over the entire legal system and etc etc.

[Ostroeuropa]

Isn't targeting white people a hate crime?

It is, but it's a question of whether it's politically and journalistically viable to start calling it that.
Like how white people don't commit terrorism, they go on "Shooting sprees" and such.

The goal isn't so much to avoid committing hate crimes, but to prevent the west from being able to call islamic terror attacks that, and forcing them to call them islamic terror attacks or radical islamic terror.

[Yorkers]

To be honest, this kind of makes sense. An attack on gay Latinos in Florida doesn't really feel like an attack against the apple pie, baseball, Christian, white America that al-Qaeda hates.

It's just not going to draw out the same reaction. More Americans would be talking how to stop homophobia rather than clamoring for revenge.

[Gravlen]

The problem with the sources is that not one single one of them make a link between the "hate crime" thing and the Inspire article. That's just speculative bullshit added in the Foreigndesknews article headline for no apparent reason, and uncritically regurgitated by the OP.

I mean, they specifically state that the reason for the suggestion to attack white people is: "This class of the American community is the majority and it is the one that is in the American leadership.”
That's not a fear of mislabelling an attack as a hate crime, but a desire to strike at the leadership.

[Twilight Imperium]

Isn't targeting white people a hate crime?

It is, but it's a question of whether it's politically and journalistically viable to start calling it that.
Like how white people don't commit terrorism, they go on "Shooting sprees" and such.

The goal isn't so much to avoid committing hate crimes, but to prevent the west from being able to call islamic terror attacks that, and forcing them to call them islamic terror attacks or radical islamic terror.

I actually think that it's kind of hilarious in a twisted way that they felt they had to clarify this. We're living the Onion, folks.

[Great Kauthar]

hahahah xD guys he used faux news cehck out this article from huffpost proving why only RAYCIST conservatives us FAUX news xD

Honestly though, I thought al-Qaeda would be the last people to become politically correct. Why can't we have true egalitarian terrorists, who kill people no matter what race or religion.

[PaNTuXIa]

hahahah xD guys he used faux news cehck out this article from huffpost proving why only RAYCIST conservatives us FAUX news xD

Honestly though, I thought al-Qaeda would be the last people to become politically correct. Why can't we have true egalitarian terrorists, who kill people no matter what race or religion.

Ah yes, your average liberal poster, represented perfectly by the Trump supporter.

[Gauthier]

According to right wing media al'Qaeda learned from Orlando that targeting minority groups will only have the attacks downplayed as a hate crime rather than a terror attack which means they get little to no credit for them. Cute.

[Great Kauthar]

According to right wing media al'Qaeda learned from Orlando that targeting minority groups will only have the attacks downplayed as a hate crime rather than a terror attack which means they get little to no credit for them. Cute.

sorry I forgot anything that doesn't come from Buzzfeed, HuffPost or Salon is 100% false.
got it, let's ignore everything the media reports on if they disagree with my views.

[Twilight Imperium]

According to right wing media al'Qaeda learned from Orlando that targeting minority groups will only have the attacks downplayed as a hate crime rather than a terror attack which means they get little to no credit for them. Cute.

YOU try living in a cave for months on end, training day in and day out to fly a jetliner, and then seeing some jerk waltz in and try to take the credit away from you!

[Yorkers]

According to right wing media al'Qaeda learned from Orlando that targeting minority groups will only have the attacks downplayed as a hate crime rather than a terror attack which means they get little to no credit for them. Cute.

Wasn't it leftists who tried to frame this as anti-gay hate crime rather than an Islamic terrorist attack?

[Gauthier]

According to right wing media al'Qaeda learned from Orlando that targeting minority groups will only have the attacks downplayed as a hate crime rather than a terror attack which means they get little to no credit for them. Cute.

Wasn't it leftists who tried to frame this as anti-gay hate crime rather than an Islamic terrorist attack?

Given the recorded history of Omar Mateen, calling it a terror attack is giving it more dignity than it deserves.

[Valystria]

This is missing the key component of needing to target certain mosques and imams and the funding that goes toward them. Until we accept that there is a variant of Islam that is the problem, nothing will be accomplished.

I have no doubt that there is a violent extremist sub-sect within Islam that should be remained wary of, but any attempts towards isolating and addressing them will need to be handled with caution so as not to give any excuses and further propaganda material to violent Islamic extremists. The same goes for the isolating and addressing of violent extremist subsections in all groups, religious and otherwise, although I obviously understand the conversation here is about Islam in particular.

I have no issue with the essence of what you are saying here however, that there is a variant or sub-section of Islam that is deeply harmful.

It's the majority of Islam and its adherents. Unless you're saying that a majority of Muslims wanting to ban homosexuality isn't deeply harmful. But that seems to be what you're saying.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/11/europe/britain-muslims-survey/

Only when it's Islam involved, violent attitudes towards gay people must be accepted in the name of tolerance. No, the majority of Islam is deeply harmful. There is no way going around that.

[Yorkers]

Wasn't it leftists who tried to frame this as anti-gay hate crime rather than an Islamic terrorist attack?

Given the recorded history of Omar Mateen, calling it a terror attack is giving it more dignity than it deserves.

Are you not downplaying a terrorist attack because it was against minorities, though?