UK Referendum Thread [Moderator Sanctioned]

[Fartsniffage]

This totally should have been the leave campaign theme song....

But...you know...black singer so nah.

[Souseiseki]

This totally should have been the leave campaign theme song....

But...you know...black singer so nah.

what the leave voters thought would happen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QGMCSCFoKA

what the high ups in the leave campaign actually want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5hWWe-ts2s

what the eu is giving them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X_ViIPA-Gc

[Valaran]

Just to say that S&P went ahead and did actually downgrade our credit rating (the last AAA we had), as they said they would a few days back.

[Mad hatters in jeans]

This totally should have been the leave campaign theme song....

But...you know...black singer so nah.

what the leave voters thought would happen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QGMCSCFoKA

what the high ups in the leave campaign actually want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5hWWe-ts2s

what the eu is giving them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X_ViIPA-Gc

The brexit is now Meat Loaf with vague sexual tensions thrown in.

I'm okay with this.

[Great Nepal]

Just to say that S&P went ahead and did actually downgrade our credit rating (the last AAA we had), as they said they would a few days back.

Don't worry it is just market correction, and the remain conspiracy. It'll sizeable soon enough like the pound has been doing

[The Alma Mater]

Just to say that S&P went ahead and did actually downgrade our credit rating (the last AAA we had), as they said they would a few days back.

Don't worry it is just market correction, and the remain conspiracy. It'll sizeable soon enough like the pound has been doing

On a different note - where can I buy one of those "crystal balls" the leave campaign spoke with such disdain about ? They seem to work quite well. I could use one of those.

[Glamour]

http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/1 ... f=mrb&lp=3

'The UK Commissioner has already tendered his resignation. There will be no British voice around the Commissioner table. His financial services profile, a kind of important brief, will be given to the Latvian Commissioner. Latvia, with a population less than half Scotland’s.

“If you Brits are going, go soon” is the overwhelming message. “Leave is leave, out is out” has been quite explicit, as Manfred Webber, head of the biggest group within the parliament, the EPP, said yesterday. But in reference to Scotland he was also quite explicit that the EU remains open to members. We’re not a member now, seen from Brussels as part of an EU member, but they know fine well we’re part of the EU and know fine well we want to stay.

As I have been travelling around the country, doing 43 public meetings since the Holyrood poll, it has been a tough message for some Nats to hear. In our referendum on independence a fair amount of people in Brussels and other member state capitals didn’t get the why of independence. They do now.

Alyn Smith is Member of the European Parliament for Scotland.'

[Glamour]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-36643387

"A Scottish government minister has said he received a "sympathetic hearing" from his European counterparts over Scotland's bid to remain in the EU.
Farming minister Fergus Ewing said he had informal talks with other agriculture ministers in Brussels.
He said senior European officials told him that they would like to see Scotland as the EU's 28th member state.
The prime minister has said that he wants the best deal for Scotland and the UK."

A very lacklustre tone in that article from the BBC. They even forgot to add a full stop after one sentence.

[Valaran]

Just to say that S&P went ahead and did actually downgrade our credit rating (the last AAA we had), as they said they would a few days back.

Don't worry it is just market correction, and the remain conspiracy. It'll sizeable soon enough like the pound has been doing

*schemes more*

The thing I'm really worried for is the current account deficit now.

[Souseiseki]

what we need to do is fly to madrid and paris and make sure they won't be, to use the technical term, "absolute cockmunchers" if we try join

[Ostroeuropa]

i would unironcally support euro-lincolns army

take me juncker

Me too. I'd get so fucking hyped for that. Finally, a european nation.

[Souseiseki]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-e ... m-36639770

Gibraltar is in talks with Scotland about a plan to keep parts of the UK in the EU, BBC Newsnight has learned.

oh god it's the "what if scotland becomes nothern and southern scotland" fear from the indy ref coming real

we're all jumping ship if there's even a remote possiblity we can get away with it

[The Archregimancy]

So, if England end up losing to Iceland - and right now it's 2-1 to the Icelanders after 20 minutes - can Roy Hodgson blame it on Brexit?

[Baltenstein]

what we need to do is fly to madrid and paris and make sure they won't be, to use the technical term, "absolute cockmunchers" if we try join

We = Scots?

[Souseiseki]

what we need to do is fly to madrid and paris and make sure they won't be, to use the technical term, "absolute cockmunchers" if we try join

We = Scots?

yes

[Baltenstein]

So, if England end up losing to Iceland - and right now it's 2-1 to the Icelanders after 20 minutes - can Roy Hodgson blame it on Brexit?

Brexit has catapulted England back to the times when they were brutalized by Vikings, it seems.

[Hirota]

So, if England end up losing to Iceland - and right now it's 2-1 to the Icelanders after 20 minutes - can Roy Hodgson blame it on Brexit?

two-thirds of the squad decided to leave the tournament. They are invoking article 50 by forgetting how to kick a ball.

[Gauthier]

So, if England end up losing to Iceland - and right now it's 2-1 to the Icelanders after 20 minutes - can Roy Hodgson blame it on Brexit?

Brexit has catapulted England back to the times when they were brutalized by Vikings, it seems.

Time to fortify the castles and monasteries, hide the loot and women.

[The Archregimancy]

http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/14580561.Why_Brussels_finally_gets_the_point_of_Scottish_independence/?ref=mrb&lp=3

'The UK Commissioner has already tendered his resignation. There will be no British voice around the Commissioner table. His financial services profile, a kind of important brief, will be given to the Latvian Commissioner. Latvia, with a population less than half Scotland’s.'

Lord Hill did resign; however, we're legally required to supply a Commissioner so long as we're part of the EU, so we're also required to nominate a replacement.

So while it's true that Lord Hill's brief is going to Latvia, the verb tense used in 'there will be no British voice around the Commissioner table' is misleading; at least until the UK's departure is confirmed.

[Ostroeuropa]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36639770

Gibraltar is in talks with Scotland about a plan to keep parts of the UK in the EU, BBC Newsnight has learned.

oh god it's the "what if scotland becomes nothern and southern scotland" fear from the indy ref coming real

we're all jumping ship if there's even a remote possiblity we can get away with it

So our plan is to go to the EU and demand a bureaucratic clusterfuck where the UK both is and is not a member of the european union, and to impress upon them the importance of this deal because it appeases all factions within our nation, and all countries and territories within it.
If we really get our act together, we can demand that the areas of the country like farms and such which receive EU funding are in the EU, but the surrounding streets and town aren't.

[Glamour]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36639770

Gibraltar is in talks with Scotland about a plan to keep parts of the UK in the EU, BBC Newsnight has learned.

oh god it's the "what if scotland becomes nothern and southern scotland" fear from the indy ref coming real

we're all jumping ship if there's even a remote possiblity we can get away with it

What I think might happen is that:

Sturgeon might go citing Khan's support as a reason why Gibraltar should support Scotland.
Spain wants Gibraltar and so Sturgeon might propose that she would support against Westminster the right of Gibraltar to determine its own EU membership, because Spain (and the rest of the EU) would back this and that would in itself allow Sturgeon to say that if there is backing for Gibraltar to do this, why not Scotland?
This then might lead to Scotland and Gibraltar both leaving, potentially together, also with Northern Ireland (Sturgeon had talks in Glasgow with the Irish leader who seemed amicable towards her).
The EU seems sympathetic towards the Scottish cause and so will no doubt be supportive of Gibraltar and a unified Ireland. If Scotland leaves the UK it is a... "domino effect"?
This then means that London would either own the shit out of England/Wales and co-operate with Scotland/Ireland/Spain (including Gibraltar) as neighbours, or else that Westminster would allow Scotland to veto Brexit, for which Sturgeon would take the blame at the price of being a saviour to the Scottish people who kept the UK together and kept the entire UK out of a Brexit situation.

But then there is the whole thing about the majority of the Scottish people wanting independence from the UK now, and also London wanting to be in the EU. I really increasingly fail to see any outcome other than most of England and all of Wales being abandoned. Wales has no case for either leaving the UK or remaining in the EU. Poor Wales.

[Glamour]

http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/14580561.Why_Brussels_finally_gets_the_point_of_Scottish_independence/?ref=mrb&lp=3

'The UK Commissioner has already tendered his resignation. There will be no British voice around the Commissioner table. His financial services profile, a kind of important brief, will be given to the Latvian Commissioner. Latvia, with a population less than half Scotland’s.'

Lord Hill did resign; however, we're legally required to supply a Commissioner so long as we're part of the EU, so we're also required to nominate a replacement.

So while it's true that Lord Hill's brief is going to Latvia, the verb tense used in 'there will be no British voice around the Commissioner table' is misleading; at least until the UK's departure is confirmed.

Yes. But the EU is basically telling the UK that its departure must be confirmed as soon as possible. Why do you think they want this? Is it to create an EU superstate or to quickly have legal grounds for other secession movements to take place so that the EU can do its own re-negotiations with the isles of Britain and Eire (not the UK which Nicola Sturgeon has also said "does not exist". Those are strong words but as I have explained in previous posts she is totally correct going by the nomenclature of what the UK is).

[HMS Vanguard]

Gibraltar should be asked to choose between Britain and Spain.

Scotland should be allowed to go if it pleases, but independent Scotland should consist of only those local authority areas that vote more than 50% Leave.

[HMS Vanguard]

Lord Hill did resign; however, we're legally required to supply a Commissioner so long as we're part of the EU, so we're also required to nominate a replacement.

So while it's true that Lord Hill's brief is going to Latvia, the verb tense used in 'there will be no British voice around the Commissioner table' is misleading; at least until the UK's departure is confirmed.

Yes. But the EU is basically telling the UK that its departure must be confirmed as soon as possible. Why do you think they want this?

They want to know if we are serious or if it is a gambit for staying with more concessions. They are not prepared to offer more concessions.

[Souseiseki]

Gibraltar should be asked to choose between Britain and Spain.

Scotland should be allowed to go if it pleases, but independent Scotland should consist of only those local authority areas that vote more than 50% Leave.

i agree. clearly all the places voted to leave the EU should leave it and the rest should stay!