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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:53 pm

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How about if you think a sport is dangerous, you don't participate in it?


and you don't think non-participation is my default position?


No. Saying you don't participate, and let those who do wish to participate do so.
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Postby Asyir » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:53 pm

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So you just going to keep ignoring these posts then?


Wrestling should be absolutely banned, because it's even very sexist, and it offends women.
Many martial arts already have a non-contact version: just only this version should be allowed.
Same for Ice Hockey: a non-contact version is extremly easy to create.

Ice Hockey without contact is called figure skating.

You can't have hockey without contact.
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:53 pm

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Val Halla wrote:So boxing will just be stacking boxes?

No. Actual boxes fighting each other

Or Metal Gear Solid
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Postby Torisakia » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:53 pm

Xanama wrote:I find it entertaining

Beat you to it by a few seconds. :P
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:53 pm

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200 people could have been alive longer if they did not tragically meet their fate in a state-sanctioned entertainment of pure violence, and many people today would not have brain damage or wrist injuries from boxing

How is boxing "state-sanctioned"? Besides, boxing will still exist irrespective of whether it is legal or illegal; the only difference is that boxing will become more illicit, and, consequently, more dangerous.


its state-sanctioned because the state stands by and collects taxes from the profits made from the unethical sport

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:53 pm

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So you just going to keep ignoring these posts then?


Wrestling should be absolutely banned, because it's even very sexist, and it offends women.
Many martial arts already have a non-contact version: just only this version should be allowed.
Same for Ice Hockey: a non-contact version is extremly easy to create.

First, how is wresting sexist, and
Second, how do you make a non-contact version of a sport where the entire objective is to beat the fucking shit out of your competitor?
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:53 pm

Olthar wrote:Should we ban everything that's dangerous? No cars! They kill people. No stoves! They can cause fires. No water! People can drown.

Essentially this.
Unless they are being forced against their will to fight then there isn't a problem.
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Postby Xanama » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:54 pm

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Xanama wrote:I find it entertaining

Beat you to it by a few seconds. :P

I'll give you that :p
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Postby Chessmistress » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:55 pm

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Wrestling should be absolutely banned, because it's even very sexist, and it offends women.
Many martial arts already have a non-contact version: just only this version should be allowed.
Same for Ice Hockey: a non-contact version is extremly easy to create.

Ice Hockey without contact is called figure skating.

You can't have hockey without contact.


The goal of Ice Hockey is to throw the disc in the net, totally unrelated with contact. It's an idea very similar to European soccer, and contact is not allowed within European soccer.
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Postby Daburuetchi » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:55 pm

You could lodge the same criticisms about literally any professional sport or strenuous activity. Sure more things can be done but to mitigate injury but an outright ban is ridiculous
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:55 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:
Wrestling should be absolutely banned, because it's even very sexist, and it offends women.
Many martial arts already have a non-contact version: just only this version should be allowed.
Same for Ice Hockey: a non-contact version is extremly easy to create.

I asked my mom that, this was her response:

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And its mine as well, this kind of shite is why i am placing you on ignore.

edit: Actually for good measure im placing IM on ignore as well, my brain has died enough tonight.

My Mum loves hockey. She's also a doctor. She also says people who want to completely remove the violence need to be burned at the stake.

Don't get between a Canuck and their hockey.

Plus without violence in hockey we wouldn't have gotten Slap Shot or Goon.

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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:55 pm

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The Huskar Social Union wrote:

So you just going to keep ignoring these posts then?



Wrestling should be absolutely banned, because it's even very sexist, and it offends women.
Many martial arts already have a non-contact version: just only this version should be allowed.
Same for Ice Hockey: a non-contact version is extremly easy to create.


Is it your ultimate intention to suck the fun out of sports for the poor, misguided excuse that those sports are sexist?
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Postby Torisakia » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:56 pm

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Wrestling should be absolutely banned, because it's even very sexist, and it offends women.
Many martial arts already have a non-contact version: just only this version should be allowed.
Same for Ice Hockey: a non-contact version is extremly easy to create.

First, how is wresting sexist, and
Second, how do you make a non-contact version of a sport where the entire objective is to beat the fucking shit out of your competitor?

You would think that the fact that there are women wrestlers would somewhat nullify the claim that wrestling is sexist.
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Postby Ragnarheim » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:56 pm

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Asyir wrote:Ice Hockey without contact is called figure skating.

You can't have hockey without contact.


The goal of Ice Hockey is to throw the disc in the net, totally unrelated with contact. It's an idea very similar to European soccer, and contact is not allowed within European soccer.


First point: it's football.

Second point: it's not European; football is a world game.

Third point: there is lots of physical contact in football.

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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:56 pm

Daburuetchi wrote:You could lodge the same criticisms about literally any professional sport or strenuous activity. Sure more things can be done but to mitigate injury an outright ban is ridiculous


I tripped on a sidewalk and hurt my knee once. Sidewalks should be banned.
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Postby Stellonia » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:57 pm

Chessmistress wrote:
Asyir wrote:Ice Hockey without contact is called figure skating.

You can't have hockey without contact.


The goal of Ice Hockey is to throw the disc in the net, totally unrelated with contact. It's an idea very similar to European soccer, and contact is not allowed within European soccer.

Contact is certainly allowed in the European leagues; I doubt you actually watch them.

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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:57 pm

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How about if you think a sport is dangerous, you don't participate in it?


and you don't think non-participation is my default position?

No, I think calling for the banning of anything you've even a mild dislike for is your default position.
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Postby Frenline Delpha » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:57 pm

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The Two Jerseys wrote:Why? The boxers know the risks and choose to box anyway. Nobody is forcing them to do it.


its for their own protection

Reminds me of an Amazing World of Gumball episode where Darwin becomes the dictator of Elmore using thhe term, it's for our own good. And, my best response to this thread is quite simply a facepalm. Any sport can be bad, so crying about it when the participants know the inherent risk is, IMO, stupid.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:57 pm

Asyir wrote:
Chessmistress wrote:
Wrestling should be absolutely banned, because it's even very sexist, and it offends women.
Many martial arts already have a non-contact version: just only this version should be allowed.
Same for Ice Hockey: a non-contact version is extremly easy to create.

Ice Hockey without contact is called figure skating.

You can't have hockey without contact.

Theoretically you can, but it's as boring as hell.

Just like women's basketball.
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Postby Xanama » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:57 pm

Chessmistress wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:

So you just going to keep ignoring these posts then?


Wrestling should be absolutely banned, because it's even very sexist, and it offends women.
Many martial arts already have a non-contact version: just only this version should be allowed.
Same for Ice Hockey: a non-contact version is extremly easy to create.

How does it offend women?

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:57 pm

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Daburuetchi wrote:You could lodge the same criticisms about literally any professional sport or strenuous activity. Sure more things can be done but to mitigate injury an outright ban is ridiculous


I tripped on a sidewalk and hurt my knee once. Sidewalks should be banned.


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Postby Torisakia » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:58 pm

Chessmistress wrote:
Asyir wrote:Ice Hockey without contact is called figure skating.

You can't have hockey without contact.


The goal of Ice Hockey is to throw the disc in the net, totally unrelated with contact. It's an idea very similar to European soccer, and contact is not allowed within European soccer.

Another goal of Ice Hockey is to play defense and take the puck away from your opposition, which includes hitting into your opponent to do so. You're pretty much never going to avoid contact in it.

And yes there fucking is contact in European leagues.
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Postby Mirtland » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:58 pm

"You know what should be banned? People who think rough sports should be banned." - Some guy I talked to in Barrow, Alaska. Though this man went off topic, he has a point. Just let people risk killing each other if they want to. We have too many humans on Earth anyways.

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:58 pm

@ op: How do you sleep at night?

If we banned everything that was remotely harmful to people/potentially harmful, we'd be banning:

*driving
*all polluting factories
*air planes
*all knives
*thumbtacks
*scissors
*fireplaces

Etc. etc. etc.

Boxers know the risk. Nobody makes anyone box. I of course dislike it when anyone is hurt, in any sport, but they know the risks.
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