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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:51 pm

The evils of Boxing cannot be understated. Since 1980, around 200 people involved in boxing have died during training or battle in the ring. Contrary to popular belief, protective headgear does NOT prevent the long-term and short-term high risk of brain damage.

It is abhorrent that we have gotten rid of the Colosseum but maintain boxing. The fact that it ''entertains'' people is a very dark commentary on what Western society has devolved into. Society should not allow profiteers (match hosts, corporations, advertisers etc) to make big bucks by encouraging and promoting people to fight each other as a spectacle. People have gotten hurt and will continue to get hurt; it is also a shameless promotion of violence and physicality, tasteless in all respects.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/54187 ... of-boxing/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing#Medical_concerns
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... dangerous/

I believe that boxing should be banned. It would be for the boxers' own good.

What do you think?

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Postby Kasterborous Gallifrey » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:53 pm

I agree. Boxing should be banned.

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Postby Lavochkin » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:55 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:The evils of Boxing cannot be understated. Since 1980, around 200 people involved in boxing have died during training or battle in the ring. Contrary to popular belief, protective headgear does NOT prevent the long-term and short-term high risk of brain damage.

It is abhorrent that we have gotten rid of the Colosseum but maintain boxing. The fact that it ''entertains'' people is a very dark commentary on what Western society has devolved into. Society should not allow profiteers (match hosts, corporations, advertisers etc) to make big bucks by encouraging and promoting people to fight each other as a spectacle. People have gotten hurt and will continue to get hurt; it is also a shameless promotion of violence and physicality, tasteless in all respects.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/54187 ... of-boxing/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing#Medical_concerns
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... dangerous/

I believe that boxing should be banned. It would be for the boxers' own good.

What do you think?

You can get hurt in any sports. Almost every sport has violence in it. If you think it's tasteless. Then that's your opinion. Don't force people to bow to your opinions. Lots of people think it help concentration and relieve stress and gives them a sense of pride and accomplishment. WWW and Luche Libre doesn't tell the whole story.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:56 pm

Lavochkin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:The evils of Boxing cannot be understated. Since 1980, around 200 people involved in boxing have died during training or battle in the ring. Contrary to popular belief, protective headgear does NOT prevent the long-term and short-term high risk of brain damage.

It is abhorrent that we have gotten rid of the Colosseum but maintain boxing. The fact that it ''entertains'' people is a very dark commentary on what Western society has devolved into. Society should not allow profiteers (match hosts, corporations, advertisers etc) to make big bucks by encouraging and promoting people to fight each other as a spectacle. People have gotten hurt and will continue to get hurt; it is also a shameless promotion of violence and physicality, tasteless in all respects.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/54187 ... of-boxing/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing#Medical_concerns
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... dangerous/

I believe that boxing should be banned. It would be for the boxers' own good.

What do you think?

You can get hurt in any sports. Almost every sport has violence in it. If you think it's tasteless. Then that's your opinion. Don't force people to bow to your opinions. Lots of people think it help concentration and relieve stress and gives them a sense of pride and accomplishment. WWW and Luche Libre doesn't tell the whole story.


not as seriously as in boxing

by comparison, something like ping pong has virtually no risk of brain damage or death

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Postby Salvotagard » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:57 pm

Lavochkin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:The evils of Boxing cannot be understated. Since 1980, around 200 people involved in boxing have died during training or battle in the ring. Contrary to popular belief, protective headgear does NOT prevent the long-term and short-term high risk of brain damage.

It is abhorrent that we have gotten rid of the Colosseum but maintain boxing. The fact that it ''entertains'' people is a very dark commentary on what Western society has devolved into. Society should not allow profiteers (match hosts, corporations, advertisers etc) to make big bucks by encouraging and promoting people to fight each other as a spectacle. People have gotten hurt and will continue to get hurt; it is also a shameless promotion of violence and physicality, tasteless in all respects.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/54187 ... of-boxing/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing#Medical_concerns
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... dangerous/

I believe that boxing should be banned. It would be for the boxers' own good.

What do you think?

You can get hurt in any sports. Almost every sport has violence in it. If you think it's tasteless. Then that's your opinion. Don't force people to bow to your opinions. Lots of people think it help concentration and relieve stress and gives them a sense of pride and accomplishment. WWW and Luche Libre doesn't tell the whole story.

swimming doesnt have any pain.

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Postby Second Blazing » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:59 pm

So? Just because something is bad for you doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:59 pm

Why? The boxers know the risks and choose to box anyway. Nobody is forcing them to do it.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:01 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:Why? The boxers know the risks and choose to box anyway. Nobody is forcing them to do it.


its for their own protection

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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:01 pm

Second Blazing wrote:So? Just because something is bad for you doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.

Drinking
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Any sport ever
Good luck to anyone trying to get those banned
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Postby Lavochkin » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:01 pm

Salvotagard wrote:
Lavochkin wrote:You can get hurt in any sports. Almost every sport has violence in it. If you think it's tasteless. Then that's your opinion. Don't force people to bow to your opinions. Lots of people think it help concentration and relieve stress and gives them a sense of pride and accomplishment. WWW and Luche Libre doesn't tell the whole story.

swimming doesnt have any pain.

As a person who has been in a swim team for 9 years. I can tell you. It hurts. As for Ping Pong. Try moving around like a ninja swatting at a ball smaller than an apple at extremely fast speeds. Your legs will be sore after a while and if you loose grip of the paddle and swing towards the opponent. The guy is going to be in serious pain.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:03 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Why? The boxers know the risks and choose to box anyway. Nobody is forcing them to do it.


its for their own protection

You can get cancer from inhaling pollutants, so let's ban breathing.

That's how stupid your "it's for their own good" argument is.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:04 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:The evils of Boxing cannot be understated. Since 1980, around 200 people involved in boxing have died during training or battle in the ring. Contrary to popular belief, protective headgear does NOT prevent the long-term and short-term high risk of brain damage.

It is abhorrent that we have gotten rid of the Colosseum but maintain boxing. The fact that it ''entertains'' people is a very dark commentary on what Western society has devolved into. Society should not allow profiteers (match hosts, corporations, advertisers etc) to make big bucks by encouraging and promoting people to fight each other as a spectacle. People have gotten hurt and will continue to get hurt; it is also a shameless promotion of violence and physicality, tasteless in all respects.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/54187 ... of-boxing/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing#Medical_concerns
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... dangerous/

I believe that boxing should be banned. It would be for the boxers' own good.

What do you think?

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Postby Olthar » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:04 pm

Should we ban everything that's dangerous? No cars! They kill people. No stoves! They can cause fires. No water! People can drown.
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Postby Kasterborous Gallifrey » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:04 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:Why? The boxers know the risks and choose to box anyway. Nobody is forcing them to do it.

Well, people who abuse drugs know the risks and choose to do it, but that doesn't mean we should encourage them to do so. We are better than that. Something has to be done, which is why there are anti-drug campaigns and stuff to raise awareness and stop people from taking drugs. Also, instead of allowing boxing so that people will go ahead and do it, all governments should ban boxing so that the boxing industry will be forced NOT to do it, which will benefit the entire community. Violence is barbaric and must never be endorsed.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:06 pm

Oh, look. Another IM thread about banning something.

Dude, really, get a life.
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Postby Lavochkin » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:06 pm

Kasterborous Gallifrey wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Why? The boxers know the risks and choose to box anyway. Nobody is forcing them to do it.

Well, people who abuse drugs know the risks and choose to do it, but that doesn't mean we should encourage them to do so. We are better than that. Something has to be done, which is why there are anti-drug campaigns and stuff to raise awareness and stop people from taking drugs. Also, instead of allowing boxing so that people will go ahead and do it, all governments should ban boxing so that the boxing industry will be forced NOT to do it, which will benefit the entire community. Violence is barbaric and must never be endorsed.

I can be killed by a tree. Should we ban tree's cause they are violent? I choose to sit next to the tree. Does that mean I encouraged the tree to fall down and kill me?
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Postby Kasterborous Gallifrey » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:08 pm

Lavochkin wrote:
Kasterborous Gallifrey wrote:Well, people who abuse drugs know the risks and choose to do it, but that doesn't mean we should encourage them to do so. We are better than that. Something has to be done, which is why there are anti-drug campaigns and stuff to raise awareness and stop people from taking drugs. Also, instead of allowing boxing so that people will go ahead and do it, all governments should ban boxing so that the boxing industry will be forced NOT to do it, which will benefit the entire community. Violence is barbaric and must never be endorsed.

I can be killed by a tree. Should we ban tree's cause they are violent? I choose to sit next to the tree. Does that mean I encouraged the tree to fall down and kill me?

Trees don't fall down for no reason. Your argument is irrelevant.

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Postby Olthar » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:08 pm

Kasterborous Gallifrey wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Why? The boxers know the risks and choose to box anyway. Nobody is forcing them to do it.

Well, people who abuse drugs know the risks and choose to do it, but that doesn't mean we should encourage them to do so. We are better than that. Something has to be done, which is why there are anti-drug campaigns and stuff to raise awareness and stop people from taking drugs. Also, instead of allowing boxing so that people will go ahead and do it, all governments should ban boxing so that the boxing industry will be forced NOT to do it, which will benefit the entire community. Violence is barbaric and must never be endorsed.

No, it'll just create underground boxing rings that are a fuck of a lot more dangerous due to a lack of oversight and regulations. And more people will die because those who get injured will be less likely to go to a hospital out of fear of being arrested for illegal boxing.
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Postby Liberal Democratic Mexico » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:11 pm

The UN, or at least the US government, should set up a deadline for the nation's (or world's, depending on who gets involved) boxing associations to prove that they can come up and easily implement measures that make boxing much safer for all involved and reduce the death rate to a point where deaths can be considered freak accidents. If the deadline is not reached, the sport of boxing should be suspended until a second deadline, at which point, if no progress is made by an association, the association will be shut down.


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Postby Franz-Mekkado » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:11 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:The evils of Boxing cannot be understated. Since 1980, around 200 people involved in boxing have died during training or battle in the ring. Contrary to popular belief, protective headgear does NOT prevent the long-term and short-term high risk of brain damage.

It is abhorrent that we have gotten rid of the Colosseum but maintain boxing. The fact that it ''entertains'' people is a very dark commentary on what Western society has devolved into. Society should not allow profiteers (match hosts, corporations, advertisers etc) to make big bucks by encouraging and promoting people to fight each other as a spectacle. People have gotten hurt and will continue to get hurt; it is also a shameless promotion of violence and physicality, tasteless in all respects.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/54187 ... of-boxing/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing#Medical_concerns
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... dangerous/

I believe that boxing should be banned. It would be for the boxers' own good.

What do you think?


No, we should not censor people because you dislike boxing. Injuries and deaths are bound to happen in any sport. We just can't tell people they're not allowed to box on the ground that "it's not cool" or "it's dangerous". Skiing is dangerous. Football is dangerous. Driving a car is dangerous.

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Postby Doom Legions » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:11 pm

I practice boxing myself and I can tell you that banning it is completely unnecessary. The risks of injury are barely any higher than with most other sports, and some other sports have significantly higher chances of injury. With this argumentation you should ban sports altogether, and I doubt I need to say why that is a bad idea.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:12 pm

It's morally wrong to tax people, but morally right to ban them from boxing.

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Postby Lavochkin » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:12 pm

Kasterborous Gallifrey wrote:
Lavochkin wrote:I can be killed by a tree. Should we ban tree's cause they are violent? I choose to sit next to the tree. Does that mean I encouraged the tree to fall down and kill me?

Trees don't fall down for no reason. Your argument is irrelevant.

I'm guessing you live in a place with little tree's.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:12 pm

Olthar wrote:
Kasterborous Gallifrey wrote:Well, people who abuse drugs know the risks and choose to do it, but that doesn't mean we should encourage them to do so. We are better than that. Something has to be done, which is why there are anti-drug campaigns and stuff to raise awareness and stop people from taking drugs. Also, instead of allowing boxing so that people will go ahead and do it, all governments should ban boxing so that the boxing industry will be forced NOT to do it, which will benefit the entire community. Violence is barbaric and must never be endorsed.

No, it'll just create underground boxing rings that are a fuck of a lot more dangerous due to a lack of oversight and regulations. And more people will die because those who get injured will be less likely to go to a hospital out of fear of being arrested for illegal boxing.

And unlike drugs, legalized boxing also brings in revenue.
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Postby Olthar » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:15 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Olthar wrote:No, it'll just create underground boxing rings that are a fuck of a lot more dangerous due to a lack of oversight and regulations. And more people will die because those who get injured will be less likely to go to a hospital out of fear of being arrested for illegal boxing.

And unlike drugs, legalized boxing also brings in revenue.

Uh, drugs bring in revenue. Selling things tends to do that. :|
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