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Postby Liberonscien » Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:58 pm

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Liberonscien wrote:Huh. For once I agree with Chess and Stag.

Wait a moment. I didn't read Chess's completely. Unisex bathrooms mainly for females? Aww… I thought that Chess was being reasonable for once.

jumped the gun on that one.

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Postby Riftey » Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:58 pm

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Riftey wrote:Not like anyone is in there watching you...

Or are they? :unsure:

I hope they enjoy what they see. I pitty the poor NSA agent who has to watch bathroom cameras all day to earn a living.

I don't. If they got to catch a peek at me there day would be well worth it. ahaha. :P
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Postby The Salvatagard Republic » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:38 am

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Dyakovo wrote:And your evidence for this is what?

Natural man's thinking. People do sex crimes because they have an opportunity to do it. But no, you didn't read it. I said could.

when did we get to sexual interaction? we are talking about racial stuff! :eyebrow: racism is very bad!
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Postby Baldapehlva » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:36 pm

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Baldapehlva wrote:Natural man's thinking. People do sex crimes because they have an opportunity to do it. But no, you didn't read it. I said could.

when did we get to sexual interaction? we are talking about racial stuff! :eyebrow: racism is very bad!

Meh. I still don't think that bathrooms should be desegged. Just make the bathrooms bigger. Won't that be fairer for the females, anyway? If you always needed evidence for everything, you would get nowhere. "I'm pretty sure Taylor Lautner is a female. Why? Her name is 'Taylor.'" Sheesh. Don't you ever get anywhere?
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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:11 pm

From what I know, women are more sensitive than men in that their hygiene and their impression might be compromised. They despise the fact that smells that emanate from where they are doing their business can be exposed to men. Women are different from men, in other words. :)
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Postby Katganistan » Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:54 pm

Recently I went to a restaurant that has segregated bathrooms, but each one is a one commode, one sink, door with lock room.

The ladies was being cleaned because apparently, it had been left in appalling condition. So I asked a waiter if I could use the men's and his response was a mostly bored, 'go for it.'

The world did not end, and except for having a urinal as well as the commode, and having poorer lighting, it was pretty much the same mundane experience as using the ladies'.

I don't see, really, that it matters WHAT bathroom one uses, as long as one can relieve oneself. The world didn't end nor did the urinal explode because my XX chromosomes were in the vicinity; I doubt anything would stop working in the ladies' if XY chronosomes were present.
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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:57 pm

Katganistan wrote:Recently I went to a restaurant that has segregated bathrooms, but each one is a one commode, one sink, door with lock room.

The ladies was being cleaned because apparently, it had been left in appalling condition. So I asked a waited if I could use the men's and his response was a mostly bored, 'go for it.'

The world did not end, and except for having a urinal as well as the commode, and having poorer lighting, it was pretty much the same mundane experience as using the ladies'.

I don't see, really, that it matters WHAT bathroom one uses, as long as one can relieve oneself. The world didn't end nor did the urinal explode because my XX chromosomes were in the vicinity; I doubt anything would stop working in the ladies' if XY chronosomes were present.


Men won't care if ladies go into the Men's. Ladies might care if men go into the Ladies', as I have mentioned earlier.
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Postby Katganistan » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:00 pm

Gim wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Recently I went to a restaurant that has segregated bathrooms, but each one is a one commode, one sink, door with lock room.

The ladies was being cleaned because apparently, it had been left in appalling condition. So I asked a waited if I could use the men's and his response was a mostly bored, 'go for it.'

The world did not end, and except for having a urinal as well as the commode, and having poorer lighting, it was pretty much the same mundane experience as using the ladies'.

I don't see, really, that it matters WHAT bathroom one uses, as long as one can relieve oneself. The world didn't end nor did the urinal explode because my XX chromosomes were in the vicinity; I doubt anything would stop working in the ladies' if XY chronosomes were present.


Men won't care if ladies go into the Men's. Ladies might care if men go into the Ladies', as I have mentioned earlier.


Unless they are looking under the stall, or climbing on their commode to look at me over the top of the stall, I really don't care. Piss is piss, and shit is shit. The guys may have to deal with the additional scents left with pads and tampons, but hey, they can handle it. We do.

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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:01 pm

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Gim wrote:
Men won't care if ladies go into the Men's. Ladies might care if men go into the Ladies', as I have mentioned earlier.


Unless they are looking under the stall, or climbing on their commode to look at me over the top of the stall, I really don't care. Piss is piss, and shit is shit. The guys may have to deal with the additional scents left with pads and tampons, but hey, they can handle it. We do.


Then, I don't see what is the problem. I mean, in some countries, unisex bathrooms exist.
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Postby Maurepas » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:09 pm

I have kind of a weird perspective on this, because of my medical issues I don't actually use the toilet, per se, I have to wear adult diapers. And I have to be changed frequently, and while I used to be able to handle this myself, I injured my spine working and I'm unable to bend properly, meaning my wife has to help me out with it. Segregated bathrooms are generally nothing but a nuisance for us. Most of the time it works out fine with us going in though, usually managers are very understanding, but it means I'm pretty much firmly on board with ending the nonsense as it were. I tend to be constantly on guard for the kind of person who wants to make a big deal out of it. Quite frankly I don't really see the point in it, it offers problems to some people, and zero effective solutions to anything, so why bother with it?

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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:11 pm

Maurepas wrote:I have kind of a weird perspective on this, because of my medical issues I don't actually use the toilet, per se, I have to wear adult diapers. And I have to be changed frequently, and while I used to be able to handle this myself, I injured my spine working and I'm unable to bend properly, meaning my wife has to help me out with it. Segregated bathrooms are generally nothing but a nuisance for us. Most of the time it works out fine with us going in though, usually managers are very understanding, but it means I'm pretty much firmly on board with ending the nonsense as it were. I tend to be constantly on guard for the kind of person who wants to make a big deal out of it. Quite frankly I don't really see the point in it, it offers problems to some people, and zero effective solutions to anything, so why bother with it?


I understand your plight and respect it; however, I think your situation is mutually exclusive, as far as segregated bathrooms are concerned. There are family/handicap bathrooms that allow entry of women and/or men.
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Postby Maurepas » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:13 pm

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Maurepas wrote:I have kind of a weird perspective on this, because of my medical issues I don't actually use the toilet, per se, I have to wear adult diapers. And I have to be changed frequently, and while I used to be able to handle this myself, I injured my spine working and I'm unable to bend properly, meaning my wife has to help me out with it. Segregated bathrooms are generally nothing but a nuisance for us. Most of the time it works out fine with us going in though, usually managers are very understanding, but it means I'm pretty much firmly on board with ending the nonsense as it were. I tend to be constantly on guard for the kind of person who wants to make a big deal out of it. Quite frankly I don't really see the point in it, it offers problems to some people, and zero effective solutions to anything, so why bother with it?


I understand your plight and respect it; however, I think your situation is mutually exclusive, as far as segregated bathrooms are concerned. There are family/handicap bathrooms that allow entry of women and/or men.

They tend to be few and far between, unfortunately, though I'd imagine they'd be more ubiquitous with an end to the segregation. After all, I'd bet there'd be greater demand for private restroom availability, so that's another plus as far as I'm concerned.

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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:15 pm

Maurepas wrote:
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I understand your plight and respect it; however, I think your situation is mutually exclusive, as far as segregated bathrooms are concerned. There are family/handicap bathrooms that allow entry of women and/or men.

They tend to be few and far between, unfortunately, though I'd imagine they'd be more ubiquitous with an end to the segregation. After all, I'd bet there'd be greater demand for private restroom availability, so that's another plus as far as I'm concerned.


However, since each private restroom takes a great deal of space, I am not sure whether private bathrooms will be favored in the eyes of architects and contractors.
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Postby Katganistan » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:15 pm

Gim wrote:
Maurepas wrote:I have kind of a weird perspective on this, because of my medical issues I don't actually use the toilet, per se, I have to wear adult diapers. And I have to be changed frequently, and while I used to be able to handle this myself, I injured my spine working and I'm unable to bend properly, meaning my wife has to help me out with it. Segregated bathrooms are generally nothing but a nuisance for us. Most of the time it works out fine with us going in though, usually managers are very understanding, but it means I'm pretty much firmly on board with ending the nonsense as it were. I tend to be constantly on guard for the kind of person who wants to make a big deal out of it. Quite frankly I don't really see the point in it, it offers problems to some people, and zero effective solutions to anything, so why bother with it?


I understand your plight and respect it; however, I think your situation is mutually exclusive, as far as segregated bathrooms are concerned. There are family/handicap bathrooms that allow entry of women and/or men.


If we're talking rest stops on the turnpike, or movie theaters, yes.
Other places, not so much.

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Postby Maurepas » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:16 pm

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Maurepas wrote:They tend to be few and far between, unfortunately, though I'd imagine they'd be more ubiquitous with an end to the segregation. After all, I'd bet there'd be greater demand for private restroom availability, so that's another plus as far as I'm concerned.


However, since each private restroom takes a great deal of space, I am not sure whether private bathrooms will be favored in the eyes of architects and contractors.

Market demand tends to drive this sort of thing, if the demand increases, the architects and contractors will follow suit.

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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:17 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Gim wrote:
However, since each private restroom takes a great deal of space, I am not sure whether private bathrooms will be favored in the eyes of architects and contractors.

Market demand tends to drive this sort of thing, if the demand increases, the architects and contractors will follow suit.


Hopefully, because I don't like when public bathrooms get dirty.
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Postby Hoyteca » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:19 pm

When it's a public restroom with multiple toilets, I can understand. But why segregate identical single-toilet bathrooms? They're designed for one person at a time and you can lock the door for privacy.

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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:22 pm

Hoyteca wrote:When it's a public restroom with multiple toilets, I can understand. But why segregate identical single-toilet bathrooms? They're designed for one person at a time and you can lock the door for privacy.


I wouldn't support the segregation of private bathrooms. What is the point of that really? :p
However, segregation of public bathrooms I support because of discomfort each gender receives due to hygienic and cosmetic issues.
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Postby Marxist Nations » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:24 pm

I'm sorry, I'm uncomfortable enough when I'm standing there taking a leak and another guy decides to take a piss next to me. Even the thought of a woman coming into the room... *makes awkward face. Any way. I also agree with the people on here talking about rape. I've seen absolute FREAKS just standing there watching other guys walk in/ do their business/ wash hands... I've seen the face of RAPE!!! TRUST ME LADIES...!!! YOU DONT WANT UNSEGREDATED FACILITIES!!!!!!!
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Postby Evil Grantica » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:24 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:There is another problem. It is unfair for the females. Females generally wait longer than males to use the facilities; this is discrimination. I can speak from personal experience. Having traveled to many parts of the planet it always seems the case that the line-up for the female side is much longer. Why is this? Well its because of the design. Facilities are separate but NOT equal. Male facilities have exclusive access to urinals and so the line up is shorter. The true solution to equality is to have one bathroom for all genders and to remove the urinals (females can't use them anyway and they provide an unfair advantage to a set of the population in wait time). This way, EVERYONE gets an average wait time for relief that is approximately equal and that isn't affected by the availability of equipment. You can still maintain two washrooms per building but EVERYONE should be allowed to use either one and they should both be completely stocked with bowls.

Please tell me this is parody, OP.

Instead of providing more regular toilets for the women (or accepting the difference in biology), you go the usual leftist route and reduce everyone down to the lowest common denominator (or in this case, the highest average wait time).
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Postby Gim » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:25 pm

Marxist Nations wrote:I'm sorry, I'm uncomfortable enough when I'm standing there taking a leak and another guy decides to take a piss next to me. Even the thought of a woman coming into the room... *makes awkward face. Any way. I also agree with the people on here talking about rape. I've seen absolute FREAKS just standing there watching other guys walk in/ do their business/ wash hands... I've seen the face of RAPE!!! TRUST ME LADIES...!!! YOU DONT WANT UNSEGREDATED FACILITIES!!!!!!!


What's the difference between men standing besides you and women standing beside you? :?:
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Postby The Alexanderians » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:28 pm

Katganistan wrote:Recently I went to a restaurant that has segregated bathrooms, but each one is a one commode, one sink, door with lock room.

The ladies was being cleaned because apparently, it had been left in appalling condition. So I asked a waiter if I could use the men's and his response was a mostly bored, 'go for it.'

The world did not end, and except for having a urinal as well as the commode, and having poorer lighting, it was pretty much the same mundane experience as using the ladies'.

I don't see, really, that it matters WHAT bathroom one uses, as long as one can relieve oneself. The world didn't end nor did the urinal explode because my XX chromosomes were in the vicinity; I doubt anything would stop working in the ladies' if XY chronosomes were present.

Obviously the XX sensor wasn't working on the explosive bolts
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Postby Ararat Mountain » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:31 pm

No, there is a man, and a woman, they have separate bathrooms, and different bodies. So deal with it, they have separate bathrooms, and it doesn't separate society, like racial segregation would. Every single normal person is fine with the concept of a bathroom for men, and a bathroom for women.
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Postby Ararat Mountain » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:34 pm

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The Salvatagard Republic wrote:when did we get to sexual interaction? we are talking about racial stuff! :eyebrow: racism is very bad!

Meh. I still don't think that bathrooms should be desegged. Just make the bathrooms bigger. Won't that be fairer for the females, anyway? If you always needed evidence for everything, you would get nowhere. "I'm pretty sure Taylor Lautner is a female. Why? Her name is 'Taylor.'" Sheesh. Don't you ever get anywhere?

Making bathrooms big enough for both sexes to use the restroom in comfortable spaces would cost more than normal bathrooms. And it would take more space, something managers and architects don't like.
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