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The Falklands, Who Should Have Them?

Poll ended at Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:53 pm

The British, The Falklanders Themselves Want It, It's Britain's Duty To Protect Them!
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90%
The Argentinians, The Islands Have Spanish Roots!
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Total votes : 404

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Postby Newfoundland-Labrador » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:35 pm

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
Ethical?

You're the one advocating mass deportations.

Your side makes the arguements personal

And the British have already done these so called mass deportations but they don't matter do they because no white people were deported

Is you really pulling the 'white people' card whilst trying to prop up an argument for Argentina?
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Postby Planita » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:36 pm

get a mod ready people

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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:36 pm

They should be British.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:36 pm

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
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You're the one who's advocating genocide. Stop doing that and maybe people will take you more seriously.

Not advocating Genocide, the British who live in falklands can live happily in Britain


They're much happier living in their British Overseas Territory and you have no right to kick them out of their homeland.
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Postby Herargon » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:36 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
What Herargon wrote is false. Moreover, every heard of the Argentine settlement of Esperanza?

I had a feeling Heragon was just being nationalistic.


I am not British, nor am I that nationalistic. I just supported the British.

Also, apologies accepted, Wolven League. ;) I only wanted to corrigate you, and it seems you've gotten it.
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Postby Calimera II » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:36 pm

The Emerald Dragon wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
What Herargon wrote is false. Moreover, every heard of the Argentine settlement of Esperanza?


I like you. Unlike hyposhite over there, you actually attempt to provide a decent argument for your view instead of "BRITISH BAD!!!!!"


Thank you. It is almost impossible to properly discuss this issue. From time to time I respond to some comments, but these threads turn out to be too superficial to debate on the status of the Malvinas. Most arguments are: Umg the British claim is stupid. And: Umg the Argies are so dumb.
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Postby The Wolven League » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:36 pm

Planita wrote:get a mod ready people

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Postby Planita » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:37 pm

Calimera II wrote:
The Emerald Dragon wrote:
I like you. Unlike hyposhite over there, you actually attempt to provide a decent argument for your view instead of "BRITISH BAD!!!!!"


Thank you. It is almost impossible to properly discuss this issue. From time to time I respond to some comments, but these threads turn out to be too superficial to debate on the status of the Malvinas. Most arguments are: Umg the British claim is stupid. And: Umg the Argies are so dumb.

well at least there is a small sliver of sanity

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:37 pm

Hasn't the majority of the Falklands' population been there for almost 200 years? Has there ever been a point where they didn't want to be British?
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Postby Sanctissima » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:38 pm

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
Ethical?

You're the one advocating mass deportations.

Your side makes the arguements personal

And the British have already done these so called mass deportations but they don't matter do they because no white people were deported


No, quite to the contrary, you're the only one here who's trying to make it personal.

For whatever reason, you're an Indian who holds all British people accountable for what happened during the British Raj and the British government's half-assed attempt at decolonizing it. You have allowed history to warp your perception of an entire culture and are no better than those who originally screwed your country over because of it.

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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:38 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Why don't all of you stop posting instead of asking me, and why don't you start acting a little ethical and make debates proper but that is too much to expect from your side of the argument


Literally all you ever give us is "ME ANGRY" and "BRITAIN SMASH!", you really don't get to cast aspersions.

Think about it for a moment. Which is more likely - everyone else here is a pro-imperialist British shill, or are you the one with the bizarre opinions? In every single debate you always end up entirely on your own, no-one of any shade of political opinion wants to be associated with hateful anglophobic tripe. The penny's got to drop at some point.

Well that is because you don't read and color my opinions to suite your bizarre agenda, I rather be alone than side with the British, It is better to oppose imperialism alone if anything

Your side has not answered even question

How on earth do you justify British actions in Diego Garcia ?
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:38 pm

Calimera II wrote:
The Emerald Dragon wrote:
I like you. Unlike hyposhite over there, you actually attempt to provide a decent argument for your view instead of "BRITISH BAD!!!!!"


Thank you. It is almost impossible to properly discuss this issue. From time to time I respond to some comments, but these threads turn out to be too superficial to debate on the status of the Malvinas. Most arguments are: Umg the British claim is stupid. And: Umg the Argies are so dumb.



If only Manisdog was here to read this....

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Postby Val Halla » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:39 pm

Saint Kitten wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Imma just gonna take that one...

I was just being snarky.. :(

I'm saving it. It's funny. And true. Especially when it comes to a subject like this. Brits and Argentinians love getting their panties is a twist about them. They'd mean nothing if there wasn't any bickering about them.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:39 pm

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Literally all you ever give us is "ME ANGRY" and "BRITAIN SMASH!", you really don't get to cast aspersions.

Think about it for a moment. Which is more likely - everyone else here is a pro-imperialist British shill, or are you the one with the bizarre opinions? In every single debate you always end up entirely on your own, no-one of any shade of political opinion wants to be associated with hateful anglophobic tripe. The penny's got to drop at some point.

Well that is because you don't read and color my opinions to suite your bizarre agenda, I rather be alone than side with the British, It is better to oppose imperialism alone if anything

Your side has not answered even question

How on earth do you justify British actions in Diego Garcia ?


I don't think anyone here does. But you should probably start a different thread if you want to talk about that.

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Postby Newfoundland-Labrador » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:39 pm

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Literally all you ever give us is "ME ANGRY" and "BRITAIN SMASH!", you really don't get to cast aspersions.

Think about it for a moment. Which is more likely - everyone else here is a pro-imperialist British shill, or are you the one with the bizarre opinions? In every single debate you always end up entirely on your own, no-one of any shade of political opinion wants to be associated with hateful anglophobic tripe. The penny's got to drop at some point.

Well that is because you don't read and color my opinions to suite your bizarre agenda, I rather be alone than side with the British, It is better to oppose imperialism alone if anything

Your side has not answered even question

How on earth do you justify British actions in Diego Garcia ?

I'm more interested in how you plan on justifying Argentina's much celebrated "Conquest of the Desert".
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Postby Planita » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:39 pm

The Emerald Dragon wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
Thank you. It is almost impossible to properly discuss this issue. From time to time I respond to some comments, but these threads turn out to be too superficial to debate on the status of the Malvinas. Most arguments are: Umg the British claim is stupid. And: Umg the Argies are so dumb.



If only Manisdog was here to read this....

You spoke to soon. Look at the sig of Imperialpowersofkorea

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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:40 pm

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Literally all you ever give us is "ME ANGRY" and "BRITAIN SMASH!", you really don't get to cast aspersions.

Think about it for a moment. Which is more likely - everyone else here is a pro-imperialist British shill, or are you the one with the bizarre opinions? In every single debate you always end up entirely on your own, no-one of any shade of political opinion wants to be associated with hateful anglophobic tripe. The penny's got to drop at some point.

Well that is because you don't read and color my opinions to suite your bizarre agenda, I rather be alone than side with the British, It is better to oppose imperialism alone if anything

Your side has not answered even question

How on earth do you justify British actions in Diego Garcia ?


We can't. That said, it was 50 years back - compensation is certainly a must, but Britain definitely isn't imperialistic anymore.

PS: No one had the Falkland islands (permanently) before Britain arrived.

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Postby Imperialpowersofkorea » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:40 pm

Newfoundland-Labrador wrote:
Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:Your side makes the arguements personal

And the British have already done these so called mass deportations but they don't matter do they because no white people were deported

Is you really pulling the 'white people' card whilst trying to prop up an argument for Argentina?


My Arguement is not giving it to Argentia but not giving it too Britain, I have stated that 100 times already
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:40 pm

Planita wrote:
The Emerald Dragon wrote:

If only Manisdog was here to read this....

You spoke to soon. Look at the sig of Imperialpowersofkorea


I was being ironic. :p

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Postby Saint Kitten » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:41 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Saint Kitten wrote:I was just being snarky.. :(

I'm saving it. It's funny. And true. Especially when it comes to a subject like this. Brits and Argentinians love getting their panties is a twist about them. They'd mean nothing if there wasn't any bickering about them.

Oh I thought you meant "take" like I just made a personal attack on you, which I thought was odd but people can be sensitive at times.
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Postby Sun Wukong » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:41 pm

Ifaltannia wrote:So Argentinians, do you see why we hold the Falklands

1. The People Of The Islands Want Us To
2. The UN Actively Backs Up Our Claim But Not Yours
3. Your Claim Was Outdated in 1853 At The Latest
4. The Spanish roots are a cute story, but dont affect anyone on the island apart from the wars you started
5. We had the islands before spain after we took them from the french
6. We had them before you even existed as a country

7. The only reason Argentina is even seriously interested, is because the issue was used as a rallying cry by a desperate and unpopular Argentine Junta, in an effort to rally the populace behind them.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:41 pm

Again?
Jesus, fuck.
We barely finished the last thread on this.

The falklanders should have the islands.
And guess what, they want to be British, so that's that I suppose.

The democratic will of a planted population counts for nothing, yes, I agree.

But these falklanders aren't planted. They were born there. Mostly.
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Postby Newfoundland-Labrador » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:42 pm

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Newfoundland-Labrador wrote:Is you really pulling the 'white people' card whilst trying to prop up an argument for Argentina?


My Arguement is not giving it to Argentia but not giving it too Britain, I have stated that 100 times already

Right then, very good, any idea how we'd prop up the Falklands on their own? or is there an alternative to Falklander independence?
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Postby Val Halla » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:42 pm

Saint Kitten wrote:
Val Halla wrote:I'm saving it. It's funny. And true. Especially when it comes to a subject like this. Brits and Argentinians love getting their panties is a twist about them. They'd mean nothing if there wasn't any bickering about them.

Oh I thought you meant "take" like I just made a personal attack on you, which I thought was odd but people can be sensitive at times.

Nope. My apathy on this Falklands stuff is remarkable. Let 'em live, I say. If somebody kept asking me.
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:42 pm

Imperialpowersofkorea wrote:
Newfoundland-Labrador wrote:Is you really pulling the 'white people' card whilst trying to prop up an argument for Argentina?


My Arguement is not giving it to Argentia but not giving it too Britain, I have stated that 100 times already


Nope, the islanders want to be British - they'll stay living on the Falklands AND being British thank you.

PS: If we're on the topic of forced relocations, should we relocate Indian Muslims to Pakistan and Pakistani Hindus to India?

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