What if McCain had won?

[Infected Mushroom]

I think he would have fixed the economy and not implemented this controversial Obamacare. Also Isis wouldn't be a problem nor would Putin. Under the true leadership that only a bona fide war hero can provide, we would enter a new golden age. Say adios to unsecure borders and deficit spending and say hello to secure borders and a sustainable budget.

But that's enough about my opinion. What do you think? Can you explain to me why the worst president since Jimmy Carter and the most tyrannical since Andrew Jackson is somehow better than a real war hero with a proven record of leadership?

He would have become the president with the coolest last name in US history

I like ''Mc's' and "Mac''s in last names... it reminds me of MacDonald's.

[Susurruses]

I think he would have fixed the economy and not implemented this controversial Obamacare. Also Isis wouldn't be a problem nor would Putin. Under the true leadership that only a bona fide war hero can provide, we would enter a new golden age. Say adios to unsecure borders and deficit spending and say hello to secure borders and a sustainable budget.

But that's enough about my opinion. What do you think? Can you explain to me why the worst president since Jimmy Carter and the most tyrannical since Andrew Jackson is somehow better than a real war hero with a proven record of leadership?

So... the USA had a potato foodstuff as a potential president?

How strange.

Not only a potential president but also a war hero with a proven record of leadership?
Fascinating.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I think he would have fixed the economy and not implemented this controversial Obamacare. Also Isis wouldn't be a problem nor would Putin. Under the true leadership that only a bona fide war hero can provide, we would enter a new golden age. Say adios to unsecure borders and deficit spending and say hello to secure borders and a sustainable budget.

But that's enough about my opinion. What do you think? Can you explain to me why the worst president since Jimmy Carter and the most tyrannical since Andrew Jackson is somehow better than a real war hero with a proven record of leadership?

He would have become the president with the coolest last name in US history

I like ''Mc's' and "Mac''s in last names... it reminds me of MacDonald's.

We've had a "Mc" already.

[Infected Mushroom]

He would have become the president with the coolest last name in US history

I like ''Mc's' and "Mac''s in last names... it reminds me of MacDonald's.

We've had a "Mc" already.

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OH

[Gauthier]

I think he would have fixed the economy and not implemented this controversial Obamacare. Also Isis wouldn't be a problem nor would Putin. Under the true leadership that only a bona fide war hero can provide, we would enter a new golden age. Say adios to unsecure borders and deficit spending and say hello to secure borders and a sustainable budget.

But that's enough about my opinion. What do you think? Can you explain to me why the worst president since Jimmy Carter and the most tyrannical since Andrew Jackson is somehow better than a real war hero with a proven record of leadership?

So... the USA had a potato foodstuff as a potential president?

How strange.

Not only a potential president but also a war hero with a proven record of leadership?
Fascinating.

Nope. That bag of chips is 100% British. Obama was born in Hawaii and people still threw a fit about him being an illegal Kenyan Muslim Marxist, that sack doesn't stand a chance.

[Nixonnia]

Or what if Charlemagne had air support. We can do this stuff all day. The question is what it is.

How about this, what if Hitler hadn't invaded Russia. You'd have been in a conundrum of a bind then Comrade.

Oh man, what if Charlemagne had air support?
Or better, yet, what if we were in the time of Charlemagne asking ourselves "What if Constantinople had fallen before Rome?"

Man, that is a good response to my post. I suppose no Justinian or Theodora for starters.

[Karaginsky]

I think he would have fixed the economy and not implemented this controversial Obamacare. Also Isis wouldn't be a problem nor would Putin. Under the true leadership that only a bona fide war hero can provide, we would enter a new golden age. Say adios to unsecure borders and deficit spending and say hello to secure borders and a sustainable budget.

But that's enough about my opinion. What do you think? Can you explain to me why the worst president since Jimmy Carter and the most tyrannical since Andrew Jackson is somehow better than a real war hero with a proven record of leadership?

McCain publicly and repeatedly called for the arming of Syrian rebel groups, rebel groups who are now vastly entagled with various terrorists organizations, ISIS included. As for ISIS, it has existed for years now and it's only come to prominence because of the inept leadership of the Al-Maliki government, backed by dear old Bush, McCain's avid supporter. And "unsecure borders", please if I hear one more argument that "terrorists are sneaking across the border"...If you want a secure border you need to fix the immigration process and help Mexico get back on it's feet because no matter how much you try you can't build completely secure a border from this type of immigration process.

Also, once again hearing the "Obama is tyrant waaa" argument made be laugh.

[Kainesia]

The atheist muslim Satanist Kenyan reptilian illuminatus terrorist anti-Christ communist would not have been exposed.

[Stormaen]

If McCain had won, he'd have been a one termer. That much I think would be certain.

There'd be no "Obamacare", obviously. I think the biggest changes, however, would've been on the international scene. The U.S. probably would've been more involved with Libya and Syria may well have been a second Iraq. I doubt there'd be a war with Iran but there'd be close to an embargo on the place.

[Heritick Farmland]

The atheist muslim Satanist Kenyan reptilian illuminatus terrorist anti-Christ communist would not have been exposed.

That incredibly original flag of yours and the above tells me all I need to know about you: DITTO HEAD

[Alizeria]

The stress would have probably got to him and killed him, leaving Sarah Palin as the President, who would have then started some sort of nuclear war and we'd all be dead now.

Don't get me wrong, if Sarah Palin hadn't been his running mate, and if he hadn't been so old, I'd be inclined to say that he would have been a good President - I certainly feel he would have been a more decisive President than Obama particularly in the arena of foreign policy but ultimately things would be no different.

Hell even the battles between President and Congress would probably have continued, albeit in a slightly altered form, given that in 2008 the Democrats controlled both houses and chances are the Tea-Party movement would have still happened.

[Dinake]

I think he would have fixed the economy and not implemented this controversial Obamacare. Also Isis wouldn't be a problem nor would Putin. Under the true leadership that only a bona fide war hero can provide, we would enter a new golden age. Say adios to unsecure borders and deficit spending and say hello to secure borders and a sustainable budget.

But that's enough about my opinion. What do you think? Can you explain to me why the worst president since Jimmy Carter and the most tyrannical since Andrew Jackson is somehow better than a real war hero with a proven record of leadership?

Because the problem with the American political system isn't the Republicans or the Democrats. It's the fact that it's dominated by parties that define themselves by pandering to every special interest with money to spend and being too ineffectual to offend anyone, respectively. In that environment, who the president is doesn't make as much of a difference as you might think. In fact, the biggest difference between Obama and Bush is probably rhetoric, as would be the biggest difference between Obama and Romney if he'd been elected.

[Anollasia]

[Heritick Farmland]

Obama girl would have been disappointed.

[Nixonnia]

What if Hubert H. Humphrey or even better, RFK, would have beaten me in 1968? No Watergate? War ends sooner. No bombing of Cambodia, so maybe no Pol Pot. G.H.W. Bush is never going to be president and neither will his son because I don't rescue his Dad's career. Just some thoughts to end this thread, or maybe restart it. Oh and if I'd have beaten JFK in 1960, well, none of us would be here as I would have bombed the hell outta Cuba. Turns out the nukes were operational there and would have been launched at NYC and DC. That would have started a 30 minute nuclear exchange that would have sent us back to the stone age. I am now very glad I wasn't in the WH for that potential mega-catastrophe. JFK was probably the only politician of the time that could have somehow resisted bombing Cuba. Kinda makes me believe strongly in the saying, God works in mysteries ways. But who knows for sure?

[Oneracon]

There wouldn't be much (if any) change. It's all part of the fun of a two party system.

[Dyakovo]

If McCain had won, he'd have been a one termer. That much I think would be certain.

There'd be no "Obamacare", obviously. I think the biggest changes, however, would've been on the international scene. The U.S. probably would've been more involved with Libya and Syria may well have been a second third Iraq. I doubt there'd be a war with Iran but there'd be close to an embargo on the place.

Ftfy

[Land of Germany]

He stopped new coal plants without using congress and wiped his butt with the constitution.

Wow, he ignored a fucking piece of paper.

Real tyrannical, eh?

All laws are "fucking piece[s] of paper." You're suggesting law be suspended if a president wants? Idiotic.

[Shofercia]

I think he would have fixed the economy and not implemented this controversial Obamacare. Also Isis wouldn't be a problem nor would Putin. Under the true leadership that only a bona fide war hero can provide, we would enter a new golden age. Say adios to unsecure borders and deficit spending and say hello to secure borders and a sustainable budget.

But that's enough about my opinion. What do you think? Can you explain to me why the worst president since Jimmy Carter and the most tyrannical since Andrew Jackson is somehow better than a real war hero with a proven record of leadership?

How do you propose to fix the economy by wasting money on bombs instead of rebuilding infrastructure and funding education? If McCain was president, the US would be at war with at least four countries, and I'd be living somewhere else. So would quite a few taxpayers, as US would face a brain drain due to his idiotic war mongering.

[New Werpland]

I think he would have fixed the economy and not implemented this controversial Obamacare.

Can you explain to me why the worst president since Jimmy Carter and the most tyrannical since Andrew Jackson is somehow better than a real war hero with a proven record of leadership?

awww that's cute

[The Liberated Territories]

Nothing much would of changed.

[Serrenissima]

McCain would have set a record for most government spending ever, stayed in Iraq, refused to close gitmo, etc. etc. etc. Just like Obama.


They're all cut from the same cloth. You get a false choice to make you think you've got choice, but in reality, nobody ever does anything different.

I've seen Obama compared to a certain Irish Whiskey.

[South Asia Minor]

I think he would have fixed the economy and not implemented this controversial Obamacare. Also Isis wouldn't be a problem nor would Putin. Under the true leadership that only a bona fide war hero can provide, we would enter a new golden age. Say adios to unsecure borders and deficit spending and say hello to secure borders and a sustainable budget.

But that's enough about my opinion. What do you think? Can you explain to me why the worst president since Jimmy Carter and the most tyrannical since Andrew Jackson is somehow better than a real war hero with a proven record of leadership?

I will never truly comprehend Americans. Y'all are weird.

[New Werpland]

McCain would have set a record for most government spending ever, stayed in Iraq, refused to close gitmo, etc. etc. etc. Just like Obama.


They're all cut from the same cloth. You get a false choice to make you think you've got choice, but in reality, nobody ever does anything different.

I've seen Obama compared to a certain Irish Whiskey.

keeping Gitmo open costs a lot of money?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

McCain would have set a record for most government spending ever, stayed in Iraq, refused to close gitmo, etc. etc. etc. Just like Obama.


They're all cut from the same cloth. You get a false choice to make you think you've got choice, but in reality, nobody ever does anything different.

I've seen Obama compared to a certain Irish Whiskey.

keeping Gitmo open costs a lot of money?

Just north of $150 million a year.