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Postby The Corparation » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:23 pm

Ashmoria wrote:what happened to 9?

If I recall correctly they went with 10 because there's legacy code that looks for Windows 9x. Calling it Windows 9 could potentially cause issues with backwards compatibility.
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Postby Bundesreich Mittle Frankryk » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:24 pm

The Conez Imperium wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Still keeping master Windows 7.


Yep. Windows 8 is great for tablets. Horrible for computers.

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Postby Stormwind-City » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:26 pm

Bundesreich Mittle Frankryk wrote:
Stormwind-City wrote:That's why consumer opinion is spilt almost 50/50 regarding W8 IIRC


>50/50 split
>Win 8 & 8.1 combined only have 13.52% market share
>Win 7 has 56.26%
>Win XP has almost 5% more of the market, at 18.26%

I said opinion of the product, not market share.
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Postby Bundesreich Mittle Frankryk » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:29 pm

Stormwind-City wrote:

I said opinion of the product, not market share.


Consumer opinion surveys are unreliable at best. You want to know how the public really feels about a product? Watch how they vote with their money.
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Postby Nuwe Suid Afrika » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:32 pm

When I got my Windows 8 computer I began to make the transition to Linux on my other computer for the fact that the software just keeps getting worse and worse and there's so many back-doors.

They're not even hiding it in the terms and agreement anymore.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/07 ... ollection/

Don't forget a possible monthly subscription.

http://seattletimes.com/html/businesste ... 06xml.html

Or the fact that your voice is always being recorded.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/6/73443 ... video-leak

Ashmoria wrote:what happened to 9?


If I'm correct, the windows start-up code would detect the "9" and then boot to Windows 95 or Windows 98 based on whatever was loaded into the computer, which is why they had to skip 9- too many coding errors.

Don't quote me on that though.


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Postby The Conez Imperium » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:35 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:Don't forget a possible monthly subscription.

http://seattletimes.com/html/businesste ... 06xml.html


Oh mon dieu! A subscription model would be 100x worse than Windows 8.
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Postby Stormwind-City » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:35 pm

The Conez Imperium wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:Don't forget a possible monthly subscription.

http://seattletimes.com/html/businesste ... 06xml.html


Dear god, a subscription model would be 100x worse than Windows 8.

Its not confirmed.
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:36 pm

Stormwind-City wrote:
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Dear god, a subscription model would be 100x worse than Windows 8.

Its not confirmed.


Better be not confirmed.
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Postby Aeken » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:39 pm

Amazing. Absolutely amazing. This is likely what W8/8.1 was aiming for.
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Stormwind-City wrote:Its not confirmed.


Better be not confirmed.

I don't think Nadella's Microsoft is a crazy enough to pull a stunt like that.

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Postby Stormwind-City » Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:49 pm

Aeken wrote:Amazing. Absolutely amazing. This is likely what W8/8.1 was aiming for.
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Better be not confirmed.

I don't think Nadella's Microsoft is a crazy enough to pull a stunt like that.

That would mean tons of piracy if they did.
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Postby United Russian Soviet States » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:13 pm

Windows is getting harder to use the more levels it goes up.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:24 pm

The Conez Imperium wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Still keeping master Windows 7.


Yep. Windows 8 is great for tablets. Horrible for computers.

I haven't noticed anything horrible about Windows 8. I must be using my laptop wrong or something...
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Postby Anollasia » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:30 pm

There's a Windows 10 already? I'm not even on 8 yet!

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:32 pm

Ashmoria wrote:what happened to 9?


The number 10 is a lot sexier.

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:33 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:what happened to 9?


The number 10 is a lot sexier.

True fact.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:36 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
The number 10 is a lot sexier.

True fact.

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Postby Dazchan » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:36 pm

Stormwind-City wrote:Am I the only one who liked W8? People treat it like it committed war crimes or something.


It's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be, and 8.1 pretty much eliminated most of the legitimate criticisms. Back when it was first released, the loudest critics seemed to be the ones who hadn't even used it yet.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:38 pm

Dazchan wrote:
Stormwind-City wrote:Am I the only one who liked W8? People treat it like it committed war crimes or something.


It's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be, and 8.1 pretty much eliminated most of the legitimate criticisms. Back when it was first released, the loudest critics seemed to be the ones who hadn't even used it yet.


It was and is shit. Certainly not as bad as people made it out to be. But pretty shitty compared to 7.

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Postby Uxupox » Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:40 pm

What do they mean by free for one year. A free upgrade for those who want to update within the year or something like a subscription?
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:14 pm

Uxupox wrote:What do they mean by free for one year. A free upgrade for those who want to update within the year or something like a subscription?

I don't think they're crazy enough to have a subscription. Maybe a free upgrade for the people who really hated Windows 8.
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Postby Tekania » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:48 pm

Ashmoria wrote:what happened to 9?


Who cares, that's just a name, not a version number. In fact, Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 (and even Vista to boot) are all version 6.x's; and to put it into even more perspective 10 will be a 6.x as well....

Vista = 6.0
7 = 6.1
8 = 6.2
8.1 = 6.3
10 = 6.4
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:56 pm

Stormwind-City wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:sure but Microsoft wants in on the other businesses too. so this will cover computers, tablets, phones, and xbox. that gives all users of the various product lines a reason to choose Microsoft for the rest of the Microsoft offerings.

They got rid of the "worse than Hitler" live tiles start menu and replaced it with a smart menu similar to previous iterations, but more customizable and flexible. While doing the usual of making it faster, more powerful, more optimized for newer technology, etc.


All of those are relative. It's still a massive resource hog, to a degree that it simply doesn't need to be, mostly because of all the bloat that comes with it, and how much of a pain in the arse it is to disable that crap.
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Postby New Rhodinia » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:13 pm

Update on the subscription detail via PC Gamer:

"Update: It seems there's still confusion. It is very clear from this post that for the first year it's available, you can upgrade to Windows 10 for free if you have Windows 7 or 8. You will not pay for it. After that year is up, nothing will happen to your Windows 10 license. If you do not upgrade within that year, however, you will have to pay for an upgrade. The offer expires after a year, not the upgrade."
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:16 pm

I'm fine with Windows 8, but I'll upgrade if 10 is better.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:22 pm

Bundesreich Mittle Frankryk wrote:As someone who sells computers for a living, I can tell you that there's a reason for that. If I had a penny for every customer who called back or came back in because the OS was so ass-backwards, frustrating and just downright confusing, I'd be able to buy Microsoft. Maybe it makes more sense to younger people who grew up playing with tablets, but it's not for PC users.

As someone who used to provide IT support to corporate workstations, I always said "As long as Microsoft keeps making operating systems, I'll always have a job". Then they outsourced my department to Malaysia. Oh well.

The one thing you can count on is that Microsoft is arrogant. As the biggest supplier of OSes and one of the biggest software producers, they always seem to think that a few tech-journal-reading hipsters reflect the real world. That, and they want to force everybody into an upgrade path every couple or three years. I quite liked Windows XP and supported it for nearly a decade. The replacement products were NOT an improvement from a support perspective.

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