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Postby Corumm » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:29 am

I would conquer Guatemala.

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Postby Sungai Pusat » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:42 am

Looking from a Singaporean perspective, as opposed to American, I probably wouldn't change all that much, other than to make Singapore more non-interventionist in the sense that more attention is brought to the world's issues for charities to send people to as opposed to the government sending people to affected places.
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Postby Auxatia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:59 am

If I was Prime Minister of Australia:

Pursue a policy of forward defence -Buy 2 more Canberra-class LHDs, increase the amount of naval surface vessels we possess - Arleigh Burke Class missile destroyers, as well as buy American-made nuclear submarines (non-SLBM), buy more F/A-18F super hornets and F35 fighter aircraft, and have Australian air and naval forces on rotational FORWARD deployment in Asia-Pacific, alongside American forces. Also replace the shitty F88 Austeyr rifle with the M16A4, buy more ASLAV APCs and M1 Abrams tanks.

Send Australian troops to Iraq to fight ISIL.

Free trade agreements with India, Canada, Brazil and the European Union.

Free Immigration agreements with the UK, Canada, USA, Hong Kong, Ireland, Singapore, South Africa, India, Japan & South Korea. (Much like what we have with New Zealand)

Allow refugees/asylum seekers into Australia following a minimum waiting process, in onshore detention, providing they satisfy all basic requirements of new immigrants
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Postby Bataviria » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:31 am

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Bataviria wrote:Netherlands

-I would stop all foreign aid, as we have given above the quota for some years, I'd say we can stop it for a time.
-I would raise the budget for defense to 2% as stated in NATO agreements
-I would stop our national sanctions against Russia and ignore the European sanctions as well
-I would recognize both Israel and Palestine and try to help negotiating it in a ''Holy Land'' for all religions
-I would support Assad's army, by material means, in their fight against the FSA and other insurgent groups. I would also arm the Kurds in their fight against ISIS. Stop armament when ISIS/FSA is defeated.
-I would send around 1000 Dutch soldiers to Syria to help the fight against ISIS with aerial, naval and logistical assistance


That's all I can think of now.

A pro-Assad & pro-Russia Dutch? Welcome aboard bro (or sis)! :)


Bro.

And I am pro-Dutch, I seek the best interest for my own nation, not Russia or Assad.
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Postby Herargon » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:29 am

Bataviria wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:A pro-Assad & pro-Russia Dutch? Welcome aboard bro (or sis)! :)


Bro.

And I am pro-Dutch, I seek the best interest for my own nation, not Russia or Assad.



so, a Dutchegocentrist?

Welcome! :P

Just kidding, we're not egocentristic actually. We're trying to make the best about it all. What do you find about my ideas on page 4 and 7, btw? I'm Dutch too.
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Postby Seleucas » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:36 pm

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I'm bias but I feel like America should stay involved in Korea (after all it did breakup the united government that was in power after Japan left and then divided the peninsula with Russia).


South Korea can take care of itself; it has a powerful military and a much greater economy than its neighbor, and it should take steps towards economic integration/rapprochment such as with the Kaesong Industrial Region. Having the US make threats of overthrowing NK and practicing war games (including simulations of pre-emptive artillery strikes or nuking Pyongyang) really will not solve anything.

I do think that the US buggered things up by arbitrarily dividing Korea to begin with.
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Shofercia's Constitution mandates that at least a third of the GDP must be applied to education and research. So that's the first step for whatever country wants me as their leader. Then the rest simply falls into place.
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Postby Marcurix » Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:51 pm

I said before earlier in the thread that my forgiven policy would pretty much be the same as the current one, but I have thought of something that is possible to do differently. I would recognize the state of Palestine in its pre-1967 borders (so West Bank and Gaza). I would also take a more pro-EU stance than the current government, but would likely try to seek a new consensus on certain areas.
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Postby The Transcaucasian Democratic Republic » Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:54 pm

My country is quite insignificant so there's nothing I could realistically do that would be different from the current foreign policy. Unrealistically, I'd go 1822 style on Haiti and then I'd realise they're even poorer than us and annexation will make this side of the island even poorer.
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Postby Zakuvia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:18 pm

Foreign policy is largely a matter of conjoining ideologies for the Empire. We don't claim arbitrary plots of land, per se, but we do accept anyone who passes an ideological and physical exam into the fold. We do value varying opinions, but sedition is fairly clear-cut in Imperial culture. As far as the physical is concerned, we feel that all citizens are required to contribute to society in whatever way as they are able, and being a bedridden, morbidly obese wastrel isn't being sporting.

Now, as far as how that relates to foreign policy, we adjust the size of our borders every five years or so to adjust for population changes, based on a standard for housing size. This may mean our borders will occasionally shrink and concessions with our neighboring nations will be made, but that also means that when our population grows at their expense, they are expected to make room for habitation projects. This has, historically, led to conflict, but modernly simply means a few kilometers of land are held as a sort of DMZ wherein expansion and retraction is free to occur.

As far as extra-regional foreign policy? The Empire is largely protectionist geopolitically, in spite of our ajar-door immigration policy.
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Postby Lalaki » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:26 pm

Seleucas wrote:I do think that the US buggered things up by arbitrarily dividing Korea to begin with.


It was a multilateral agreement with the Soviet Union, with the eventual goal of reunification.

Objectively speaking, I believe US intervention worked in this case. Examine how different the two Koreas are. The South is more democratic, open, developed, etc.
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Postby Soviet Haaregrad » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:27 pm

How would you run your country's foreign policy?


Invade the US.

Oh wait, that doesn't say ruin.

Issue a sternly politely worded condemnation of US Israeli policies.
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Postby The Transcaucasian Democratic Republic » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:31 pm

Zakuvia wrote:Foreign policy is largely a matter of conjoining ideologies for the Empire. We don't claim arbitrary plots of land, per se, but we do accept anyone who passes an ideological and physical exam into the fold. We do value varying opinions, but sedition is fairly clear-cut in Imperial culture. As far as the physical is concerned, we feel that all citizens are required to contribute to society in whatever way as they are able, and being a bedridden, morbidly obese wastrel isn't being sporting.

Now, as far as how that relates to foreign policy, we adjust the size of our borders every five years or so to adjust for population changes, based on a standard for housing size. This may mean our borders will occasionally shrink and concessions with our neighboring nations will be made, but that also means that when our population grows at their expense, they are expected to make room for habitation projects. This has, historically, led to conflict, but modernly simply means a few kilometers of land are held as a sort of DMZ wherein expansion and retraction is free to occur.

As far as extra-regional foreign policy? The Empire is largely protectionist geopolitically, in spite of our ajar-door immigration policy.

From what I can see this one acts as oneself in this sub-forum as opposed to others which seem to be about role-play.
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Postby The Bosakian Sultanate » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:31 pm

I would likely open up Nicaragua for Foreign investors to build factories in Nicaragua, be more Pro Us, try to join NATO.
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Postby Bataviria » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:34 am

Herargon wrote:
Bataviria wrote:
Bro.

And I am pro-Dutch, I seek the best interest for my own nation, not Russia or Assad.



so, a Dutchegocentrist?

Welcome! :P

Just kidding, we're not egocentristic actually. We're trying to make the best about it all. What do you find about my ideas on page 4 and 7, btw? I'm Dutch too.


Bit too interventionist, I'd "shut down" ties with former colonies to a normal level and blockade Suriname though, because Desi Bouterse. Finally some action for the navy.
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:51 am

The Bosakian Sultanate wrote:I would likely open up Nicaragua for Foreign investors to build factories in Nicaragua, be more Pro Us, try to join NATO.

You can be more pro-US but being accepted into Nato would be extraordinarily hard.

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Postby The Transcaucasian Democratic Republic » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:07 am

Marcurix wrote:I said before earlier in the thread that my forgiven policy would pretty much be the same as the current one, but I have thought of something that is possible to do differently. I would recognize the state of Palestine in its pre-1967 borders (so West Bank and Gaza). I would also take a more pro-EU stance than the current government, but would likely try to seek a new consensus on certain areas.

You are from the UK, right?
I am a thirteen-year-old Dominican male known for my Europhilia and my lack of nationalism (for this country at least). I have yet to find a political ideology that fits me perfectly (I doubt it exists) but generally I'm a centrist leaning a bit toward the left. My family will move to Ireland some time in the summer.
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Postby The Transcaucasian Democratic Republic » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:08 am

The Bosakian Sultanate wrote:I would likely open up Nicaragua for Foreign investors to build factories in Nicaragua, be more Pro Us, try to join NATO.

Why only factories?
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Postby Calimera II » Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:11 am

The Transcaucasian Democratic Republic wrote:
The Bosakian Sultanate wrote:I would likely open up Nicaragua for Foreign investors to build factories in Nicaragua, be more Pro Us, try to join NATO.

Why only factories?

Because Nicaragua needs to be industrialized.

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Postby Marcurix » Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:42 am

The Transcaucasian Democratic Republic wrote:
Marcurix wrote:I said before earlier in the thread that my forgiven policy would pretty much be the same as the current one, but I have thought of something that is possible to do differently. I would recognize the state of Palestine in its pre-1967 borders (so West Bank and Gaza). I would also take a more pro-EU stance than the current government, but would likely try to seek a new consensus on certain areas.

You are from the UK, right?


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This is OOC.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:53 am

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- End aid to countries that have more than enough money to support themselves.
- Remain in NATO, try to renegotiate EU membership terms to permit a migrant cap, general migration quota with favour shown to applicants from the Commonwealth and the United States.
- Keep sanctions against the Russians, and push to increase them if there is the international political will.
- Maintain military spending at its current proportion of the budget.
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Postby National Socialist Korea » Mon Dec 08, 2014 6:56 am

Greatly-increased relations with Japan.

That's it, really.

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Postby Parhe » Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:17 pm

Seleucas wrote:
Parhe wrote:I'm bias but I feel like America should stay involved in Korea (after all it did breakup the united government that was in power after Japan left and then divided the peninsula with Russia).


South Korea can take care of itself; it has a powerful military and a much greater economy than its neighbor, and it should take steps towards economic integration/rapprochment such as with the Kaesong Industrial Region. Having the US make threats of overthrowing NK and practicing war games (including simulations of pre-emptive artillery strikes or nuking Pyongyang) really will not solve anything.

I do think that the US buggered things up by arbitrarily dividing Korea to begin with.

Sunshine Policy ended for a reason; North Korea refused to change, unless you count hiding its nuclear tests better. Despite South Korea doing everything to help North Korea none of the South's grievances were met except family reunions, except the North continues to use it as a took; North Korea continues punishing defectors, working on nuclear capabilities, and torturing its prisoners, many of them there for reasons that wouldn't be considered crimes in most developed or even undeveloped nations. South Korea has tried these things time and time again since the fall of the Soviet Union but even during then the North has made threats to attack and overthrow the south which, despite what you say, has not been made by either the South or America since the Cold War. Also, war "games" makes sense; North Korea is weaker than the South but it can still do a lot of damage and it constantly threatens to attack the South, doing so every few years. I will say though, if America withdraws the South should develop its own nuclear weapons. It would finally give Korea something to do with its leftover fuel, fixing its storage issue (artificially created by the US)
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