Ban the Burqa?

[National Socialist Republics of Europe]

All Muslims dress their children like that? hell no. Stop with provocative accusations. You're the one giving Islam a bad image here, advocating for Salafism and all bullshit.

However, these who dress their children in a burqa can take offense, of course.

It isn't even a burqa that child is wearing, it's a freaking al-khimar!

He has exaggerated. I think the moderators should do something.

[Pan-America under the United States]

I wouldn't want to see someone driving down the street with a balaclava. I think there should be a double standard.

[National Socialist Republics of Europe]

You know what burqa is all about? it's all sexual. Those who dress their children like that actually see their children as sexual object and this is disgusting.

Wow. Let's have some proof of that too.

No, let's give a sanction, instead.

[Sebastianbourg]

They can dress their children however they like.

You know what burqa is all about? it's all sexual. Those who dress their children like that actually see their children as sexual object and this is disgusting.

We're going to need some proof, sir.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Well, they would be... "free" in the most literal sense.

Unrestrained, some might say.

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It's so cold, my nips can cut glass.

Don't go thinking about a future in cat burglary.

Why must you shit on my plans?

[Senkaku]

In 2010, there was a debate in France over a potential Burqa ban. This passed with an extremely large majority and was later upheld by the European Court of Human Rights. The ban had major support, with the bill was passing the National Assembly by a vote of 335–1. This idea has since gained traction throughout Europe. Even some Muslims support it:

Dalil Boubakeur, the grand mufti of the Paris Mosque, the largest and most influential in France, testified to parliament during the bill's preparation. He commented that the niqāb was not prescribed in Islam, that in the French and contemporary context its spread was associated with radicalisation and criminal behavior, and that its wearing was inconsistent with France's concept of the secular state; but that due to expected difficulties in applying a legal ban, he would prefer to see the issue handled "case by case".

What are your thoughts on a Burqa ban: An Islamophobic violation of rights, or a common sense safety measure?

I'm no Islamophobe. While there are Radical elements, I, as a Catholic, respect their faith. Still, I support a Burqa ban. Even when the female consents to wear it, which is probably very rare, we cannot allow people to fully or even partially obstruct their face in public where ever they go. This is a huge safety risk.

By that argument we should also ban hoodies, hats with large brims, ski masks, sunglasses, non-Muslim religious head coverings similar to the niqāb (such as those worn by some Orthodox Jewish women), and excessively long hair. And almost every Halloween costume ever.

So it seems like you're just an Islamophobe.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

They can dress their children however they like.

You know what burqa is all about? it's all sexual. Those who dress their children like that actually see their children as sexual object and this is disgusting.

So? Until they're 18, children are responsibility of their parents, that's no business of the state as long as they aren't physically or mentally abusing their children. Dressing a child up in a burqa is not mental or physical abuse, it's their tradition.

[WestRedMaple]

Gezi, are you a woman? You aren't so calm down. This is the woman's choice. A woman's opinion on the matter is worth more than your drivel.

Practically, it's the man's choice so that's what I'm fighting because I'm concerned unlike fake liberals in here.

The man's choice....exactly what YOU'RE supporting.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

I think islamophobia is justified in Europe, where there are large amounts of islamic immigrants, but as an American, I don't see a reason to be islamophobic here.

[Galloism]

I wouldn't want to see someone driving down the street with a balaclava. I think there should be a double standard.

I feel much safer when I see this:

[Senyosu]

So it seems like you're just an Islamophobe.

Oh. My. God.

The burqa ban is not Islamophobic, just extremely flawed in design. The French don't know the difference b/w a niqab and a burqa and a chador. And really, all three are loosely tied to Islam, and are more regional. It's more racist if anything, but in practicality only the burqa is bannable under the pretense that it is a safety hazard to the wearer.

here
It is very regional
Very regional
ffs

[National Socialist Republics of Europe]

So it seems like you're just an Islamophobe.

Oh. My. God.

The burqa ban is not Islamophobic, just extremely flawed in design.

Why not simply establish mandatory unveiling only when requested by the police, instead of banning burqa entirely?

[Genivaria]

There really is no safety issue with Burqas.

[The Cobalt Sky]

I think islamophobia is justified in Europe, where there are large amounts of islamic immigrants, but as an American, I don't see a reason to be islamophobic here.

It's not right anywhere. It's irrational. There's no way of saying every immigrant is definitely a radical.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Oh. My. God.

The burqa ban is not Islamophobic, just extremely flawed in design.

Why not simply establish mandatory unveiling only when requested by the police, instead of banning burqa entirely?

fuck no, that alone is a violation of people's rights. Not unless the individual has already been detained. Europeans are too paranoid.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

I definitely think we should be working to stop the spread of the Islamic culture, because Islam, if left unchecked, will dominate Europe, Israel, and anyone else who stands in the way. Christianity could very well cease to exist in the eastern hemisphere if the radical Islamists and the secularists continue their crusade.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

I think islamophobia is justified in Europe, where there are large amounts of islamic immigrants, but as an American, I don't see a reason to be islamophobic here.

It's not right anywhere. It's irrational. There's no way of saying every immigrant is definitely a radical.

No, but they don't need to be radicals to be immigrants. There's such a large amount of them immigrating to Europe, I think the European countries have a right to defend their cultures.

[Senyosu]

Oh. My. God.

The burqa ban is not Islamophobic, just extremely flawed in design.

Why not simply establish mandatory unveiling only when requested by the police, instead of banning burqa entirely?

invasion of privacy and bodily sovreignity?

idk

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

I definitely think we should be working to stop the spread of the Islamic culture, because Islam, if left unchecked, will dominate Europe, Israel, and anyone else who stands in the way. Christianity could very well cease to exist in the eastern hemisphere if the radical Islamists and the secularists continue their crusade.

le double standard faec
it's alright if Christians dominate and oppress the world, but not Muslims, amirite? :^)

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Why not simply establish mandatory unveiling only when requested by the police, instead of banning burqa entirely?

invasion of privacy and bodily sovreignity?

idk

People do not have complete ownership of their own body, you know. Not if it threatens others. What if you're carrying a bomb around?

[Galloism]

Why not simply establish mandatory unveiling only when requested by the police, instead of banning burqa entirely?

invasion of privacy and bodily sovreignity?

idk

Simultaneous regulations requiring a female officer do the unveiling in accordance with Islamic rules would be sufficient to cover the possible privacy considerations.

[Genivaria]

I definitely think we should be working to stop the spread of the Islamic culture, because Islam, if left unchecked, will dominate Europe, Israel, and anyone else who stands in the way. Christianity could very well cease to exist in the eastern hemisphere if the radical Islamists and the secularists continue their crusade.

Fundamentalist Christianity is a far worse threat to the US then Islam is, and that is a fact.

[Galloism]

invasion of privacy and bodily sovreignity?

idk

People do not have complete ownership of their own body, you know. Not if it threatens others. What if you're carrying a bomb around?

We don't ban fat people.

[Senyosu]

invasion of privacy and bodily sovreignity?

idk

People do not have complete ownership of their own body, you know. Not if it threatens others. What if you're carrying a bomb around?

Did you just?

You just did.

Ok bye.

[Genivaria]

invasion of privacy and bodily sovreignity?

idk

People do not have complete ownership of their own body, you know. Not if it threatens others. What if you're carrying a bomb around?

.......A bomb is not their body.