Ban the Burqa?

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

I do not approve of the ban. There are far better ways to combat immigration than to ban burqas.

If you think it should be combatted, why are you against the ban? I'm Not sure there's a way of getting rid of immigraBR's without bending the law one way or another to fit prejudice.

Or you could just impose immigration quotas, like the US has been doing since just about forever. I don't like the ban because it violates the individual's sovereignty, you can combat immigration without violating individual sovereignty.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Why do people argue with A&B? It's obvious what he'll say, over and over and that there's no reasoning there. It just derails the thread.

[The Cobalt Sky]

Actually, yes. Judeo-Christian principles are the backbone of this nation. We should never persecute anyone or rob or murder them because they don't follow the true God, but we shouldn't be allowing their ideals to run rampant, either.

We're better off without secularism, paganism, or anything that stands in the way of the truth of God's word and the gospel. As a society, as a nation, we are indeed better off.

Once again, no stoning or anything like that - definitely not. But neither should we allow their lifestyle to go unchecked. There should be punishments for assaults on our culture - the culture of this nation.

How awful. People need to give up practicing their beliefs so you won't be troubled by people with differing beliefs than you.

I really hope he's just a troll.

[Senyosu]

Why do people argue with A&B? It's obvious what he'll say, over and over and that there's no reasoning there. It just derails the thread.

Because he may slip up.

[Auroya]

Or you could just impose immigration quotas

No, there's no need for that, it's unethical on a few levels and the often the arguments for it are nothing but irrational nationalism.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Only Christianity, amirite?

Actually, yes. Judeo-Christian principles are the backbone of this nation. We should never persecute anyone or rob or murder them because they don't follow the true God, but we shouldn't be allowing their ideals to run rampant, either.

We're better off without secularism, paganism, or anything that stands in the way of the truth of God's word and the gospel. As a society, as a nation, we are indeed better off.

Once again, no stoning or anything like that - definitely not. But neither should we allow their lifestyle to go unchecked. There should be punishments for assaults on our culture - the culture of this nation.

You should start by hating on the Irish for bringing Catholicism to America. Why do you support Jews and Israel so much? Christianity has a loooong history of oppressing Jews.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Or you could just impose immigration quotas

No, there's no need for that, it's unethical on a few levels and the often the arguments for it are nothing but irrational nationalism.

It's the most humane way of defending the European nations' individual cultures.

[Auroya]

No, there's no need for that, it's unethical on a few levels and the often the arguments for it are nothing but irrational nationalism.

It's the most humane way of defending the European nations' individual cultures.

Cultures are not at risk; even if they were, their 'preservation' isn't a matter of any immideate importance.

I do feel this may be a threadjack though.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Why do people argue with A&B? It's obvious what he'll say, over and over and that there's no reasoning there. It just derails the thread.

Because he may slip up.

You mean he hasn't already?

[Sebastianbourg]

How awful. People need to give up practicing their beliefs so you won't be troubled by people with differing beliefs than you.

I really hope he's just a troll.

Try not to call people trolls in case the mods come after you.

[Jamjai]

banning the burqa is just a double-standard bull crap

people dressing as clowns and walking at night

I would be terrified at that scene

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

It's the most humane way of defending the European nations' individual cultures.

Cultures are not at risk.

If the majority of the people in a country aren't ethnically of that nation's descent, then yes, their culture and the culture of the nation is at risk. That's why America is considered uncultured in the eyes of Europeans, there isn't a dominant culture here.

[Ardoki]

The Burqa is not required by Islam, so therefore banning it would not be a breach of religious freedom. While I admit there may be a security risk inovlolved with the wearing of it, it is only about 50% worse than a balaclava or motorcycle helmet. It is kind of a breach of personal freedoms if you ban it.

In my opinion I don't really like it, as it was originally designed to oppress women, and is a violation of the principle of equality.
However I would not try to ban it. I would support the banning of beards though.

[Pan-America under the United States]

I wouldn't want to see someone driving down the street with a balaclava. I think there should be a double standard.

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Why must you shit on my plans?

My own amusement, why else?

eheheh.

[Auroya]

Cultures are not at risk.

If the majority of the people in a country aren't ethnically of that nation's descent, then yes, their culture and the culture of the nation is at risk. That's why America is considered uncultured in the eyes of Europeans, there isn't a dominant culture here.

Even if this ever became the case I feel that the only real opposiiton to it is just irrational nationalism and nothing more.

Anyway this is probably threadjacking, so it's probably best we don't.

[Jamjai]

The Burqa is not required by Islam, so therefore banning it would not be a breach of religious freedom. While I admit there may be a security risk inovlolved with the wearing of it, it is only about 50% worse than a balaclava or motorcycle helmet. It is kind of a breach of personal freedoms if you ban it.

In my opinion I don't really like it, as it was originally designed to oppress women, and is a violation of the principle of equality.
However I would not try to ban it. I would support the banning of beards though.

thats stupid

beards are natural

[Pan-America under the United States]

The Burqa is not required by Islam, so therefore banning it would not be a breach of religious freedom. While I admit there may be a security risk inovlolved with the wearing of it, it is only about 50% worse than a balaclava or motorcycle helmet. It is kind of a breach of personal freedoms if you ban it.

In my opinion I don't really like it, as it was originally designed to oppress women, and is a violation of the principle of equality.
However I would not try to ban it. I would support the banning of beards though.

A motorcycle helmet is for safety. Burqas and Balaclavas aren't.

[The Cobalt Sky]

I really hope he's just a troll.

Try not to call people trolls in case the mods come after you.

Dang. Thanks for the warning, though. Wouldn't want that to happen to me.

[Sebastianbourg]

Try not to call people trolls in case the mods come after you.

Dang. Thanks for the warning, though. Wouldn't want that to happen to me.

No worries.

[Ardoki]

The Burqa is not required by Islam, so therefore banning it would not be a breach of religious freedom. While I admit there may be a security risk inovlolved with the wearing of it, it is only about 50% worse than a balaclava or motorcycle helmet. It is kind of a breach of personal freedoms if you ban it.

In my opinion I don't really like it, as it was originally designed to oppress women, and is a violation of the principle of equality.
However I would not try to ban it. I would support the banning of beards though.

A motorcycle helmet is for safety. Burqas and Balaclavas aren't.

You could hide your identity with each of those.
And I never said a motorcycle helmet wasn't for safety ( you could argue that a burqa can protect you from the sun, and a balaclava from the cold), nor did I say it should be prohibited.

[Ardoki]

The Burqa is not required by Islam, so therefore banning it would not be a breach of religious freedom. While I admit there may be a security risk inovlolved with the wearing of it, it is only about 50% worse than a balaclava or motorcycle helmet. It is kind of a breach of personal freedoms if you ban it.

In my opinion I don't really like it, as it was originally designed to oppress women, and is a violation of the principle of equality.
However I would not try to ban it. I would support the banning of beards though.

thats stupid

beards are natural

Well I don't like them, I personally find them repulsive.

[Pan-America under the United States]

A motorcycle helmet is for safety. Burqas and Balaclavas aren't.

You could hide your identity with each of those.
And I never said a motorcycle helmet wasn't for safety ( you could argue that a burqa can protect you from the sun, and a balaclava from the cold), nor did I say it should be prohibited.

Your point was "it was 50% worse" so how exactly would that be comparable? Surely, you can't say that Motorcycle helmets can be grouped with balaclavas and Burqas. A motorcycle helmet is for protection. That's the sole reason, you don't see people walking around with motorcycle helmets on.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Actually, yes. Judeo-Christian principles are the backbone of this nation. We should never persecute anyone or rob or murder them because they don't follow the true God, but we shouldn't be allowing their ideals to run rampant, either.

We're better off without secularism, paganism, or anything that stands in the way of the truth of God's word and the gospel. As a society, as a nation, we are indeed better off.

Once again, no stoning or anything like that - definitely not. But neither should we allow their lifestyle to go unchecked. There should be punishments for assaults on our culture - the culture of this nation.

You should start by hating on the Irish for bringing Catholicism to America. Why do you support Jews and Israel so much? Christianity has a loooong history of oppressing Jews.

Jews and Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants - we all follow the same great God, and we all make this nation a great place to live. I have no issue with any of them.

[Ardoki]

You could hide your identity with each of those.
And I never said a motorcycle helmet wasn't for safety ( you could argue that a burqa can protect you from the sun, and a balaclava from the cold), nor did I say it should be prohibited.

Your point was "it was 50% worse" so how exactly would that be comparable? Surely, you can't say that Motorcycle helmets can be grouped with balaclavas and Burqas.

The whole security argument lies on the assumption that someone can hide their identity and commit a crime with a burqa. The same can be said about a motorcycle helmet and a balaclava.

[Ardoki]

You should start by hating on the Irish for bringing Catholicism to America. Why do you support Jews and Israel so much? Christianity has a loooong history of oppressing Jews.

Jews and Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants - we all follow the same great God, and we all make this nation a great place to live. I have no issue with any of them.

Muslims also worship the same god.