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Feminism: The War on Feminism

Postby Basseemia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:01 pm

So over the course of many...many...many years, the definition of feminism has changed very...very...very much. I mean the dictionary hasn't changed but you know what I mean. Anyway, feminism has gone from housewives aspiring to be working wives or working women and not just someone's wife to irritating thirteen year-olds on Tumblr who make a big deal over everything thinking reblogs are going to save the world.

Due to think fabulous change, feminism has become the "new f word", so to speak. When someone hears the new f word, the picture that comes to their head is a fat, unshaven, bra burning, man hating, rape accusing, stomping lesbian or that thirteen year old on Tumblr I mention a little earlier which, in my opinion, is causing more drawbacks than progress in feminism.

On the forums I've seen the same thing. People constantly viewing feminism as this man hating and rape accusing guerrilla terrorist attack on men in order to make them slaves while the original plot of feminism is to make the each sex equal both in treatment and in view.

In my opinion, the real reason that people view feminism in such a disgusted way is not because these people hate women but because they see the wrong people as the face of feminism making it a stereotype than the actual meaning of modern-day feminism (i.e. Those thirteen year-olds on Tumblr I keep mentioning). This could be viewed as the "modern feminism" but it is not the feminism that is bringing equality in society to both sexes.

So NSG let's get down to business. What are your opinions? Why do you think feminism has become the "new f word" and if so, why? Why do you think people hate feminism so much?

Edit: This thread is NOT about whether you agree with feminists, if feminists are right or wrong, and in no way trying to put down women. This thread is simply about whether you believe feminism is a dirty word or not and why and what is causing people to view feminism in a bad way. Please read the OP carefully to avoid any misunderstandings.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:03 pm

Well, this OP was easily bad, and you are just reproducing the common sense of the people who wouldn't feel personally benefited by feminism to start with.
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Postby Basseemia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:05 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Well, this OP was easily bad, and you are just reproducing the common sense of the people who wouldn't feel personally benefited by feminism to start with.

It's a little hard for me to believe that you even read the OP.
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:09 pm

Basseemia wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Well, this OP was easily bad, and you are just reproducing the common sense of the people who wouldn't feel personally benefited by feminism to start with.

It's a little hard for me to believe that you even read the OP.

HetRio read it, but you don't like some feminists, so you must just be repeating what misogynists are telling you. :p
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Postby Basseemia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:11 pm

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Basseemia wrote:It's a little hard for me to believe that you even read the OP.

HetRio read it, but you don't like some feminists, so you must just be repeating what misogynists are telling you. :p

Yo, I am a feminist. I was giving my opinion as to why I believe most people do not like the feminists of today.
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Postby Greater-London » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:13 pm

I don't think Feminism has become the new "F" word quite the contrary; its a movement that even within the last few years has grown in momentum and lots more people talk about and are openly (for want of a better word) Feminists.

Simultaneously though there is a growing and loud element to the Feminist movement which is rude and bullying and doesn't do itself any favors.
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Postby Ritna » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:15 pm

Basseemia wrote:
Geilinor wrote:HetRio read it, but you don't like some feminists, so you must just be repeating what misogynists are telling you. :p

Yo, I am a feminist. I was giving my opinion as to why I believe most people do not like the feminists of today.


You're not a feminist if you put down women* and girls*. You don't get to choose which women* are deserving of respect and which are not.
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Postby Basseemia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:16 pm

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Basseemia wrote:Yo, I am a feminist. I was giving my opinion as to why I believe most people do not like the feminists of today.


You're not a feminist if you put down women* and girls*. You don't get to choose which women* are deserving of respect and which are not.

Show me how I am putting down women.
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Postby Idzequitch » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:17 pm

The term has become misunderstood. Women being treated as equal to men is good. I think the majority of people would agree with this. The problem is, the word "feminism" has become associated with women becoming dominant, and treating men as inferior. I think most would agree with me that this is not what we want at all. I can speak from experience, I thought I was anti-feminist until I did some research into the subject. There's an important difference between feminists and so called "femi-Nazis"
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:18 pm

Basseemia wrote:
Geilinor wrote:HetRio read it, but you don't like some feminists, so you must just be repeating what misogynists are telling you. :p

Yo, I am a feminist. I was giving my opinion as to why I believe most people do not like the feminists of today.

My post was satire.
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:19 pm

When the radical feminists practically advocate gender warfare, they tend to give other feminists a bad rap.
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Postby Cyllea » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:19 pm

Ritna wrote:
Basseemia wrote:Yo, I am a feminist. I was giving my opinion as to why I believe most people do not like the feminists of today.


You're not a feminist if you put down women* and girls*. You don't get to choose which women* are deserving of respect and which are not.

Isnt feminism all about equality? Real equality if we're not allowed to call out people on their bullshit if they're female.
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Geilinor wrote:
Basseemia wrote:Yo, I am a feminist. I was giving my opinion as to why I believe most people do not like the feminists of today.

My post was satire.

Oh I'm sorry! Aha!
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Basseemia wrote:
Ritna wrote:
You're not a feminist if you put down women* and girls*. You don't get to choose which women* are deserving of respect and which are not.

Show me how I am putting down women.


Basseemia wrote:{...} irritating thirteen year-olds on Tumblr who make a big deal over everything thinking reblogs are going to save the world.


Basseemia wrote:When someone hears the new f word, the picture that comes to their head is a fat, unshaven, bra burning, man hating, rape accusing, stomping lesbian or that thirteen year old on Tumblr I mention a little earlier which, in my opinion, is causing more drawbacks than progress in feminism.


Your whole post is about the awful "13 year old girls on tumblr" and feminists who don't conform to your idea of a "good" feminist. Get over yourself.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:21 pm

Basseemia wrote:So over the course of many...many...many years, the definition of feminism has changed very...very...very much. I mean the dictionary hasn't changed but you know what I mean. Anyway, feminism has gone from housewives aspiring to be working wives or working women and not just someone's wife to irritating thirteen year-olds on Tumblr who make a big deal over everything thinking reblogs are going to save the world.

That's not what feminism is.
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Postby Basseemia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:22 pm

Ritna wrote:
Basseemia wrote:Show me how I am putting down women.


Basseemia wrote:{...} irritating thirteen year-olds on Tumblr who make a big deal over everything thinking reblogs are going to save the world.


Basseemia wrote:When someone hears the new f word, the picture that comes to their head is a fat, unshaven, bra burning, man hating, rape accusing, stomping lesbian or that thirteen year old on Tumblr I mention a little earlier which, in my opinion, is causing more drawbacks than progress in feminism.


Your whole post is about the awful "13 year old girls on tumblr" and feminists who don't conform to your idea of a "good" feminist. Get over yourself.

I'm showing my point that every time someone calls a women who talks about feminism, I believe it is caused by the people on Tumblr who have become the face of feminism. Next time, read the entire OP. It will help with your selective reading. Get over yourself.
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:23 pm

Liberal is a touchy word too, as is Socialist, Capitalist, Communist, Conservative, Christian, Muslim, Jewish.

Chances are, someone is going to disagree with you, and your personal label. is their dirtiest swear.
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Postby Basseemia » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:23 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Basseemia wrote:So over the course of many...many...many years, the definition of feminism has changed very...very...very much. I mean the dictionary hasn't changed but you know what I mean. Anyway, feminism has gone from housewives aspiring to be working wives or working women and not just someone's wife to irritating thirteen year-olds on Tumblr who make a big deal over everything thinking reblogs are going to save the world.

That's not what feminism is.

That's how the majority of people to want to put shit all over feminism view it as in my opinion. The entire thread is asking do you agree with my opinion, if so why and if not why.
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Postby NERVUN » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:23 pm

Oh boy... again with this.

In any case, no I don't think feminism is the new F-word and indeed, you can find the same reaction to feminism through out its history as certain people get their druthers up about it.
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You're not a feminist if you put down women* and girls*. You don't get to choose which women* are deserving of respect and which are not.

Isnt feminism all about equality? Real equality if we're not allowed to call out people on their bullshit if they're female.[/quote]


Anyone can say whatever they want, I'm not the idea police. I'm saying you can't be a feminist if you don't respect all women* because then you're just replicating the oppression you're attempting to undo.
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Postby Olerand » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:24 pm

I don't understand the OP, why is feminism bad? Or maybe bad, what?
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Ritna wrote:
Cyllea wrote:
You're not a feminist if you put down women* and girls*. You don't get to choose which women* are deserving of respect and which are not.

Isnt feminism all about equality? Real equality if we're not allowed to call out people on their bullshit if they're female.



Anyone can say whatever they want, I'm not the idea police. I'm saying you can't be a feminist if you don't respect all women* because then you're just replicating the oppression you're attempting to undo.[/quote]
I respect women. I don't respect people who act like feminism is bringing superiority to women rather than equality to both them and men.
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Your whole post is about the awful "13 year old girls on tumblr" and feminists who don't conform to your idea of a "good" feminist. Get over yourself.

I'm showing my point that every time someone calls a women who talks about feminism, I believe it is caused by the people on Tumblr who have become the face of feminism. Next time, read the entire OP. It will help with your selective reading. Get over yourself.


Friend, I did read the entire post. I'm telling you that 13 year olds are also valid feminists, and until you're here for ALL women* (including the tumblr girls*) you aren't here for anyone.
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Postby Cyllea » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:26 pm

Basseemia wrote:
Ritna wrote:Isnt feminism all about equality? Real equality if we're not allowed to call out people on their bullshit if they're female.



Anyone can say whatever they want, I'm not the idea police. I'm saying you can't be a feminist if you don't respect all women* because then you're just replicating the oppression you're attempting to undo.

I respect women. I don't respect people who act like feminism is bringing superiority to women rather than equality to both them and men.[/quote]

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The disrespect isnt because they're women. Its because they're a person who's an absolute fucking idiot, regardless of gender.

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