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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:30 pm

Heil NSG!

I stumbled across this article about a student who was sent home without a lunch because his parents owed the school money. Schools are supposed to waive fees for school lunches, field trips, etc. for low income families, but there is some bureaucracy (which means a potential for clerical errors), it can be a nuisance for families whose income is close to the cut-off for eligibility, etc. Sometimes kids just forget their lunch money or, for those who don't normally eat school lunches, forget their lunch.

The article mentions that some school districts have switched to a system where school lunches are just free to everyone. Considering that school lunches are very cheap anyway, I like the idea of offering them for free to all students. Kids should be allowed to focus on their classes without being distracted by their parents' financial problems or being hungry.

Do you agree? What is your opinion on free school lunches?
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:32 pm

That's so sad. I feel like he should've gotten lunch.
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Postby Pope Joan » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:33 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:Heil NSG!

I stumbled across this article about a student who was sent home without a lunch because his parents owed the school money. Schools are supposed to waive fees for school lunches, field trips, etc. for low income families, but there is some bureaucracy (which means a potential for clerical errors), it can be a nuisance for families whose income is close to the cut-off for eligibility, etc. Sometimes kids just forget their lunch money or, for those who don't normally eat school lunches, forget their lunch.

The article mentions that some school districts have switched to a system where school lunches are just free to everyone. Considering that school lunches are very cheap anyway, I like the idea of offering them for free to all students. Kids should be allowed to focus on their classes without being distracted by their parents' financial problems or being hungry.

Do you agree? What is your opinion on free school lunches?


Yes, I have heard that some schools figure it is more expensive to track the paying and nonpaying students and do all the compliance bookwork than it would be to just feed them all for free.

It's also less embarrassing for the poor kids.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:33 pm

The federal government mandates this 'free lunch' welfare. It should be up to the states and localities to decide.
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Postby Scepez » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:34 pm

My school has the lunches free. We also have some kind of breakfast porridge thing too, which is also free.
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:35 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:The federal government mandates this 'free lunch' welfare. It should be up to the states and localities to decide.

Why?
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:35 pm

Well, if I did have free lunch, I would probably buy all the sugar cookies due to my addiction.
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Postby Greater Soviet Ukraine » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:37 pm

You can't take away someones lunch That is a basic human right we should make an amendment in the constitution for that and then see how those snotty rich korrupt kapatalist schools deal with it freedom and america people have right to food in there belly we arent ghetto 3rd world country everyone should at least be fed this is absolutely outrageous we are suppose to help the unfortunate every facking major world reglion advocates that and if you are atheist have some deceny and humenity come on im hungry from this rant do you want to go to McDonalds they have high calorie foods im burning so much energy im going to drink a soda omg so hungry goodbye

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Postby Senkaku » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:38 pm

And my country continues to act disgracefully towards the poor and helpless.

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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:38 pm

Greater Soviet Ukraine wrote:You can't take away someones lunch That is a basic human right we should make an amendment in the constitution for that and then see how those snotty rich korrupt kapatalist schools deal with it freedom and america people have right to food in there belly we arent ghetto 3rd world country everyone should at least be fed this is absolutely outrageous we are suppose to help the unfortunate every facking major world reglion advocates that and if you are atheist have some deceny and humenity come on im hungry from this rant do you want to go to McDonalds they have high calorie foods im burning so much energy im going to drink a soda omg so hungry goodbye


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Postby Communist Volkstrad » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:39 pm

European Socialist Republic wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:The federal government mandates this 'free lunch' welfare. It should be up to the states and localities to decide.

Why?

I agree, why do that? School lunches are cheap as it is, and offering all students the ability to get them for free would be very helpful for lower income families.
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Postby Planita » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:40 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Greater Soviet Ukraine wrote:You can't take away someones lunch That is a basic human right we should make an amendment in the constitution for that and then see how those snotty rich korrupt kapatalist schools deal with it freedom and america people have right to food in there belly we arent ghetto 3rd world country everyone should at least be fed this is absolutely outrageous we are suppose to help the unfortunate every facking major world reglion advocates that and if you are atheist have some deceny and humenity come on im hungry from this rant do you want to go to McDonalds they have high calorie foods im burning so much energy im going to drink a soda omg so hungry goodbye


Providing people with school lunches for free is a basic human right?

Please don't

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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:41 pm

European Socialist Republic wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:The federal government mandates this 'free lunch' welfare. It should be up to the states and localities to decide.

Why?


It is none of their business. The government is too big already, and they cannot possibility decide what is best for 80 million some children to eat each day, and for what price, if any. This is why things need to be focused on states and localities. The federal gov't needs to have less of a role. Diversified cultures of different states means that the government's one-size-fits-all mentality will always make people angry with them. It is a whole lot more orderly and democratic on a local level - on a federal level, Mrs. Obama or Mr. "Pizza is a Vegetable" Congress decide. On a local level, the parents and teachers who know the kids best get decide what the kids ought to eat.
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Postby Atomic Utopia » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:41 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Greater Soviet Ukraine wrote:You can't take away someones lunch That is a basic human right we should make an amendment in the constitution for that and then see how those snotty rich korrupt kapatalist schools deal with it freedom and america people have right to food in there belly we arent ghetto 3rd world country everyone should at least be fed this is absolutely outrageous we are suppose to help the unfortunate every facking major world reglion advocates that and if you are atheist have some deceny and humenity come on im hungry from this rant do you want to go to McDonalds they have high calorie foods im burning so much energy im going to drink a soda omg so hungry goodbye


Providing people with school lunches for free is a basic human right?

Sarcasm, learn to identify it.

But we should really provide a free lunch to students at public schools, primarily to reduce the use of fast food.
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Postby Greater Soviet Ukraine » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:43 pm

Yes think of the starving african children how did i get on but still they are hungry and poor and they just want food but evil korrupt government waste money iz very bad mighty Lenin does not approve he advocate revolution for poor russian serf think of the children he will stare into your soul and bring out your humanity now stare at it and give him free lunch
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Postby Planita » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:44 pm

Just have a broad policy letting some kids have free lunches and have the school districts decide what they want in their meals

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Postby Salandriagado » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:44 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Greater Soviet Ukraine wrote:You can't take away someones lunch That is a basic human right we should make an amendment in the constitution for that and then see how those snotty rich korrupt kapatalist schools deal with it freedom and america people have right to food in there belly we arent ghetto 3rd world country everyone should at least be fed this is absolutely outrageous we are suppose to help the unfortunate every facking major world reglion advocates that and if you are atheist have some deceny and humenity come on im hungry from this rant do you want to go to McDonalds they have high calorie foods im burning so much energy im going to drink a soda omg so hungry goodbye


Providing people with school lunches for free is a basic human right?


When you are requiring them to be there over a meal time, yes.
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Postby Greater Soviet Ukraine » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:46 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:Why?


It is none of their business. The government is too big already, and they cannot possibility decide what is best for 80 million some children to eat each day, and for what price, if any. This is why things need to be focused on states and localities. The federal gov't needs to have less of a role. Diversified cultures of different states means that the government's one-size-fits-all mentality will always make people angry with them. It is a whole lot more orderly and democratic on a local level - on a federal level, Mrs. Obama or Mr. "Pizza is a Vegetable" Congress decide. On a local level, the parents and teachers who know the kids best get decide what the kids ought to eat.

You know what happened the last time we did that? The Articles of Confederation.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Confederation

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Postby Planita » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:48 pm

Greater Soviet Ukraine wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
It is none of their business. The government is too big already, and they cannot possibility decide what is best for 80 million some children to eat each day, and for what price, if any. This is why things need to be focused on states and localities. The federal gov't needs to have less of a role. Diversified cultures of different states means that the government's one-size-fits-all mentality will always make people angry with them. It is a whole lot more orderly and democratic on a local level - on a federal level, Mrs. Obama or Mr. "Pizza is a Vegetable" Congress decide. On a local level, the parents and teachers who know the kids best get decide what the kids ought to eat.

You know what happened the last time we did that? The Articles of Confederation.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Confederation

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Postby Au Naturel Reina » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:51 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:Heil NSG!

I stumbled across this article about a student who was sent home without a lunch because his parents owed the school money. Schools are supposed to waive fees for school lunches, field trips, etc. for low income families, but there is some bureaucracy (which means a potential for clerical errors), it can be a nuisance for families whose income is close to the cut-off for eligibility, etc. Sometimes kids just forget their lunch money or, for those who don't normally eat school lunches, forget their lunch.

The article mentions that some school districts have switched to a system where school lunches are just free to everyone. Considering that school lunches are very cheap anyway, I like the idea of offering them for free to all students. Kids should be allowed to focus on their classes without being distracted by their parents' financial problems or being hungry.

Do you agree? What is your opinion on free school lunches?

I've never had to pay money for my lunch back in school, and I almost always got mine directly from the school. I do agree the lunch should be free, especially if the food is of low costs for the overall budgets.
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Postby Toronina » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:51 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Greater Soviet Ukraine wrote:You can't take away someones lunch That is a basic human right we should make an amendment in the constitution for that and then see how those snotty rich korrupt kapatalist schools deal with it freedom and america people have right to food in there belly we arent ghetto 3rd world country everyone should at least be fed this is absolutely outrageous we are suppose to help the unfortunate every facking major world reglion advocates that and if you are atheist have some deceny and humenity come on im hungry from this rant do you want to go to McDonalds they have high calorie foods im burning so much energy im going to drink a soda omg so hungry goodbye


Providing people with school lunches for free is a basic human right?

Food, Water and clean air are all basic human rights
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:52 pm

Planita wrote:
Greater Soviet Ukraine wrote:You know what happened the last time we did that? The Articles of Confederation.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Confederation

that would be his paradise actually, no federal government


Responsibilities of the federal government:
- Making (some) Taxes
- Supreme Court
- Military
- Defense
- Promoting commerce
- Foreign Affairs

Responsibilities of the state government:
- Pretty much everything else
(This is because all states are different, and a one size fits all policy from the Feds on small issues like school lunches will cause enormous problems).

Look what Mrs. Obama has done, for instance:

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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:54 pm

Toronina wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Providing people with school lunches for free is a basic human right?

Food, Water and clean air are all basic human rights


But is it the responsibility of the nanny state federal government to give us our food for free in a public school setting? Shouldn't it be the states and localities that decide what is best for their school lunch, whether or not they have a school lunch, how much it costs (if at all), etc?
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Postby Communist Volkstrad » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:54 pm

Then have the federal government require free lunches and let the state governments decide its contents. There, have a compromise.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:54 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Planita wrote:that would be his paradise actually, no federal government


Responsibilities of the federal government:
- Making (some) Taxes
- Supreme Court
- Military
- Defense
- Promoting commerce
- Foreign Affairs

Responsibilities of the state government:
- Pretty much everything else
(This is because all states are different, and a one size fits all policy from the Feds on small issues like school lunches will cause enormous problems).

Look what Mrs. Obama has done, for instance:

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She ate a banana? That's kinda racist you know, just coz she's black, doesn't mean she steals all the bananas.....
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