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Kingdom of Viana
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:36 pm

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He helped end Communism in the USSR and ended the Cold War. Seriously you guys ignore the facts.

No he didn't, and even if he did, that hardly makes up for even half of the shit he did.


By what I'm reading I get the impression that you think Raegan drove america into the ground, am I correct?
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Postby Harpers Ferry » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:36 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:No, he didn't. If anything, the increased spending of the arms race helped keep the Soviet economy afloat.


Yes, he did. :roll:

Did he I troduce Perestroika and Glasnost? Did he orchestrate the numerous revoloutions in the Bloc? Please, explain how he personally brought down the USSR.
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Postby Harpers Ferry » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:37 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Harpers Ferry wrote:No he didn't, and even if he did, that hardly makes up for even half of the shit he did.


By what I'm reading I get the impression that you think Raegan drove america into the ground, am I correct?

Nothing so dramatic. His foreign and domestic policies were just atrocious.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:39 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:No, he didn't. If anything, the increased spending of the arms race helped keep the Soviet economy afloat.


Yes, he did. :roll:

Apparently you missed the second sentence...
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:39 pm

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Yes, he did. :roll:

Did he I troduce Perestroika and Glasnost? Did he orchestrate the numerous revoloutions in the Bloc? Please, explain how he personally brought down the USSR.


He worked along side Glasnot to bring an end to the USSR. If he hadn't, then the Soviet Union would have lasted a lot longer.
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Postby Laerod » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:40 pm

Patrick OConner wrote:
Laerod wrote:You don't have to say Obama. You could mention a slaver or someone so ridiculously incompetent the country fell apart.


yeah but i live in america right now

If the questions was who is the worst leader of your country right at this very moment it would be a pretty dumb thread, wouldn't it?

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Postby Harpers Ferry » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:40 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Harpers Ferry wrote:Did he I troduce Perestroika and Glasnost? Did he orchestrate the numerous revoloutions in the Bloc? Please, explain how he personally brought down the USSR.


He worked along side Glasnot to bring an end to the USSR. If he hadn't, then the Soviet Union would have lasted a lot longer.

How did he do this? And again he somehow diserves credit for singlehandedly ending the CW and the USSR?
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:40 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Yes, he did. :roll:

Apparently you missed the second sentence...


No, I'm just referencing that to your first line. I'm pretty sure Raegan's efforts didn't benefit the USSR in any way shape or form.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:42 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Harpers Ferry wrote:Did he I troduce Perestroika and Glasnost? Did he orchestrate the numerous revoloutions in the Bloc? Please, explain how he personally brought down the USSR.


He worked along side Glasnot to bring an end to the USSR. If he hadn't, then the Soviet Union would have lasted a lot longer.

:rofl:
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Postby Harpers Ferry » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:43 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Apparently you missed the second sentence...


No, I'm just referencing that to your first line. I'm pretty sure Raegan's efforts didn't benefit the USSR in any way shape or form.

So do you have any evidence other than vague nonspecific claims?
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:43 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Apparently you missed the second sentence...


No, I'm just referencing that to your first line. I'm pretty sure Raegan's efforts didn't benefit the USSR in any way shape or form.

Your surety has as much accuracy as your spelling does.
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:45 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
He worked along side Glasnot to bring an end to the USSR. If he hadn't, then the Soviet Union would have lasted a lot longer.

:rofl:


Is there anything funny? Other than you laughing because you as a liberal can't handle truth?
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Postby Bezombia » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:45 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
No, I'm just referencing that to your first line. I'm pretty sure Raegan's efforts didn't benefit the USSR in any way shape or form.

Your surety has as much accuracy as your spelling does.


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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:46 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
No, I'm just referencing that to your first line. I'm pretty sure Raegan's efforts didn't benefit the USSR in any way shape or form.

Your surety has as much accuracy as your spelling does.


Oh how Ironic.
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Postby Harpers Ferry » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:47 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Dyakovo wrote: :rofl:


Is there anything funny? Other than you laughing because you as a liberal can't handle truth?

How about actually citing evidence instead of spouting out liberal as an insult when people don't immediately believe your bullshit? That'd be great.
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:48 pm

Harpers Ferry wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Is there anything funny? Other than you laughing because you as a liberal can't handle truth?

How about actually citing evidence instead of spouting out liberal as an insult when people don't immediately believe your bullshit? That'd be great.


I don't need specific evidence to prove something that is obviously true.
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Postby Bezombia » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:48 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Your surety has as much accuracy as your spelling does.


Oh how Ironic.


...ironic that you're trying to claim that he misspelled a word that he didn't misspell?

Yes, that is ironic.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:50 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Your surety has as much accuracy as your spelling does.


Oh how Ironic.

And the supposed irony there is?
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:50 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Oh how Ironic.


...ironic that you're trying to claim that he misspelled a word that he didn't misspell?

Yes, that is ironic.


Where have I misspelled a word may I ask? She obviously ran out of ideas to argue with so she has resorted to criticizing my spelling.
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Postby Harpers Ferry » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:50 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Harpers Ferry wrote:How about actually citing evidence instead of spouting out liberal as an insult when people don't immediately believe your bullshit? That'd be great.


I don't need specific evidence to prove something that is obviously true.

:rofl: Oh good Lord you are hilarious.

Yeah no, that's debate 101. Prove your claim or it's bullshit.
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Postby Bezombia » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:50 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Harpers Ferry wrote:How about actually citing evidence instead of spouting out liberal as an insult when people don't immediately believe your bullshit? That'd be great.


I don't need specific evidence to prove something that is obviously true.


Well if we no longer need evidence to prove something that is true, then I've got a couple truths that you now have to accept:

-Reagan was a Pastafarian and had statues of Cthulhu in his bed every night.
-Vladimir Lenin was married to Reagan's wife. Make of that what you will.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:51 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Harpers Ferry wrote:How about actually citing evidence instead of spouting out liberal as an insult when people don't immediately believe your bullshit? That'd be great.


I don't need specific evidence to prove something that is obviously true.

If there is no evidence to support your assertion then it is, by definition, not something that is obvious.
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:51 pm

Harpers Ferry wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
I don't need specific evidence to prove something that is obviously true.

:rofl: Oh good Lord you are hilarious.

Yeah no, that's debate 101. Prove your claim or it's bullshit.


Then half of the stuff you say has been bullshit?
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Postby Bezombia » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:51 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
...ironic that you're trying to claim that he misspelled a word that he didn't misspell?

Yes, that is ironic.


Where have I misspelled a word may I ask? She obviously ran out of ideas to argue with so she has resorted to criticizing my spelling.


It's Reagan, not Raegan.



Also Dya ran out of things to argue against because you literally have not made a single point that's actually meaningful and grounded in logic or fact.
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Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
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Postby Harpers Ferry » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:52 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Harpers Ferry wrote: :rofl: Oh good Lord you are hilarious.

Yeah no, that's debate 101. Prove your claim or it's bullshit.


Then half of the stuff you say has been bullshit?

You made the assertion, burden of proof is on you.

Hint: claiming things then calling people who question it liberals who can't handle the truth is not a source.
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