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Laerod
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Postby Laerod » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:02 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Harpers Ferry wrote:I still adamantly believe Buchanan not doing anything and Jackson's policies against Native Americans far outweigh Obama in being "The Worst Ever".


Obama is an idiot. Now with a nice RED senate we can finally start restricting King Obama's power.

Obama's got a veto, you know. Also, turning the senate red like that has resulted in a Great Blue Wall of either nearly 270 votes exactly 270 votes. Republicans have pretty much kissed the Presidency goodbye.
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Harpers Ferry
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Postby Harpers Ferry » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:02 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Obama is an idiot. Now with a nice RED senate we can finally start restricting King Obama's power.


Funny that you call him a "king", while most of the government's overreaching powers were granted by Bush Jr.

But he was a Republican, better to lay the blame on the Ebul Democrat :roll:
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Kingdom of Viana
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:03 pm

Harpers Ferry wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
I can only find ones during his time and to be honest, those are better than ones now because those people experienced his presidency.

His approval rating at the end of his presidency was 68% 8)

Not really, considering it is 2014 and his horrid policies can still be felt.


"Horrid" policies? Even if he was bad we wouldn't notice them since we have gone through 6 years of hell under Obama's policies.

Also

"Still be felt?" You live in Canada! Nothing Reagan did has effected you!! :eyebrow:
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Laerod
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Postby Laerod » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:03 pm

Bezombia wrote:Not to mention that she literally opposed the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Like...who does that?

The French >=I

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Dyakovo
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:05 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Harpers Ferry wrote:Not really, considering it is 2014 and his horrid policies can still be felt.


"Horrid" policies? Even if he was bad we wouldn't notice them since we have gone through 6 years of hell under Obama's policies.

Also

"Still be felt?" You live in Canada! Nothing Reagan did has effected you!! :eyebrow:

Yes, horrid policies. His economic and foreign policies were all awful.
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Postby Harpers Ferry » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:05 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Harpers Ferry wrote:Not really, considering it is 2014 and his horrid policies can still be felt.


"Horrid" policies? Even if he was bad we wouldn't notice them since we have gone through 6 years of hell under Obama's policies.

Also

"Still be felt?" You live in Canada! Nothing Reagan did has effected you!! :eyebrow:

I don't remember ever stating where I live, your assumption is incorrect. The thing at debate is not if Obama is worse than Reagan or vice versa, it is your absurd claim that he is "the best ever."
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Patrick OConner
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Postby Patrick OConner » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:07 pm

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Patrick OConner wrote:i know this sounds cliche but i have to say Obama his affordable care act failed (not to metion wreaking havoc on the economy) and he cant control our borders and that is just the start

You don't have to say Obama. You could mention a slaver or someone so ridiculously incompetent the country fell apart.


yeah but i live in america right now
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Kingdom of Viana
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:09 pm

Laerod wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Obama is an idiot. Now with a nice RED senate we can finally start restricting King Obama's power.

Obama's got a veto, you know. Also, turning the senate red like that has resulted in a Great Blue Wall of either nearly 270 votes exactly 270 votes. Republicans have pretty much kissed the Presidency goodbye.


Nope, democrats have raised the national debt, approved the highly unpopular Obamacare act, rejected Keystone which could have been a goldmine for us, and now he's going to call executive order to grant citizenship to 8 million illegal immigrants.why are you democrats so confident about winning the presidency and the senate back in 2016 when really you are more hated than the republicans?
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:12 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
"Horrid" policies? Even if he was bad we wouldn't notice them since we have gone through 6 years of hell under Obama's policies.

Also

"Still be felt?" You live in Canada! Nothing Reagan did has effected you!! :eyebrow:

Yes, horrid policies. His economic and foreign policies were all awful.


Now how about Obama's policies? I can't wait till 2016 when the republicans win and start repairing the damages left by him.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:13 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Laerod wrote:Obama's got a veto, you know. Also, turning the senate red like that has resulted in a Great Blue Wall of either nearly 270 votes exactly 270 votes. Republicans have pretty much kissed the Presidency goodbye.


Nope, democrats have raised the national debt, approved the highly unpopular Obamacare act, rejected Keystone which could have been a goldmine for us, and now he's going to call executive order to grant citizenship to 8 million illegal immigrants.why are you democrats so confident about winning the presidency and the senate back in 2016 when really you are more hated than the republicans?

Increased government spending is the right thing to do during a recession, the PPACA isn't unpopular, Keystone is an environmental nightmare, and there is no executive order for granting citizenship.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:14 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Yes, horrid policies. His economic and foreign policies were all awful.


Now how about Obama's policies? I can't wait till 2016 when the republicans win and start repairing the damages left by him.

What about them? I've not claimed that Obama is the best president ever.
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Kingdom of Viana
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:17 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Nope, democrats have raised the national debt, approved the highly unpopular Obamacare act, rejected Keystone which could have been a goldmine for us, and now he's going to call executive order to grant citizenship to 8 million illegal immigrants.why are you democrats so confident about winning the presidency and the senate back in 2016 when really you are more hated than the republicans?

Increased government spending is the right thing to do during a recession, the PPACA isn't unpopular, Keystone is an environmental nightmare, and there is no executive order for granting citizenship.


Clearly you have been living under a rock. Give me a poll where more than 50% of Americans support PPACA and type "Obama" into your search engine, there will be like ten articles popping up regarding his decision on immigration.
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:18 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Now how about Obama's policies? I can't wait till 2016 when the republicans win and start repairing the damages left by him.

What about them? I've not claimed that Obama is the best president ever.


Who do you like better Obama or Raegan?
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Mistillania
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Postby Mistillania » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:20 pm

Mistillania wrote:In America of the last 50 years. Ronald Reagan,Richard Nixon and George W Bush.

And the only decent ones in the same time roughly, were Jimmy carter and John F Kennedy . With Johnson,Clinton and Obama about 60/40 good or bad. :ugeek:

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Cabana
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Postby Cabana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:21 pm

Look at this Viana:
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The Silver Bloods
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Postby The Silver Bloods » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:25 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:What about them? I've not claimed that Obama is the best president ever.


Who do you like better Obama or Raegan?

Reagan Reagan Reagan Reagan Reagan Reagan Reagan

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Kingdom of Viana
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:26 pm

Mistillania wrote:
Mistillania wrote:In America of the last 50 years. Ronald Reagan,Richard Nixon and George W Bush.

And the only decent ones in the same time roughly, were Jimmy carter and John F Kennedy . With Johnson,Clinton and Obama about 60/40 good or bad. :ugeek:


Jimmy Carter, you have got to be joking. :eyebrow:
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:29 pm

Cabana wrote:Look at this Viana:
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He helped end Communism in the USSR and ended the Cold War. Seriously you guys ignore the facts.
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Postby Mistillania » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:30 pm

Obama may not be are greatest president [Which was Franklin D Roosevelt by the way], but he is 100 times better then Ronald Reagan.

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Postby Solorni » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:30 pm

How did Reagan do that? With his banter? :P
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:30 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Increased government spending is the right thing to do during a recession, the PPACA isn't unpopular, Keystone is an environmental nightmare, and there is no executive order for granting citizenship.


Clearly you have been living under a rock. Give me a poll where more than 50% of Americans support PPACA and type "Obama" into your search engine, there will be like ten articles popping up regarding his decision on immigration.

While it isn't 50%, more people support the PPACA than oppose it, granting amnesty =/= granting citizenship.
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Postby Harpers Ferry » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:31 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Cabana wrote:Look at this Viana:
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He helped end Communism in the USSR and ended the Cold War. Seriously you guys ignore the facts.

No he didn't, and even if he did, that hardly makes up for even half of the shit he did.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:32 pm

Kingdom of Viana wrote:
Cabana wrote:Look at this Viana:
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He helped end Communism in the USSR and ended the Cold War. Seriously you guys ignore the facts.

No, he didn't. If anything, the increased spending of the arms race helped keep the Soviet economy afloat.
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:33 pm

Mistillania wrote:Obama may not be are greatest president [Which was Franklin D Roosevelt by the way], but he is 100 times better then Ronald Reagan.


Are you kidding me? Not even the people (whose opinions I respect believe it or not) would probably agree that Obama was 100 times better than Ronald Raegan or that Jimmy Carter was one of the best Pres. Of United states.
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:35 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Kingdom of Viana wrote:
He helped end Communism in the USSR and ended the Cold War. Seriously you guys ignore the facts.

No, he didn't. If anything, the increased spending of the arms race helped keep the Soviet economy afloat.


Yes, he did. :roll:
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