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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:41 pm

Transyl wrote:
Creepoc Infinite wrote:I think your confusing Atheism (not a religion or system of beliefs)
With Atheism+
(Which is pretty close to a religion)

Well considering Atheists believe there is no god1, and that there is no afterlife2, which in fact are beliefs, that means it is technically a 'Religion'.

1: Wrong. Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity or deities, not the belief in lack.
2: Wrong, atheism says nothing about whether or not there is an afterlife.
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Postby Zottistan » Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:01 pm

Transyl wrote:I don't see why people hate Atheism so much...guess they just want everyone to believe everything they believe, which in my opinion is fucking ridiculous.

If I told you I disagreed that it was ridiculous, would it be ridiculous of you to try to persuade me otherwise?
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Postby Creepoc Infinite » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:00 am

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Postby Southern DeCapito » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:04 am

Completely unrelated, but it's got something to do with Christianity...
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Postby Creepoc Infinite » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:05 am

Southern DeCapito wrote:Completely unrelated, but it's got something to do with Christianity...
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Where is here?
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Postby Southern DeCapito » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:05 am

Creepoc Infinite wrote:
Southern DeCapito wrote:Completely unrelated, but it's got something to do with Christianity...
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Where is here?

Earth? I thought that was kinda obvious.
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Postby Martean » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:10 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Transyl wrote:Well considering Atheists believe there is no god1, and that there is no afterlife2, which in fact are beliefs, that means it is technically a 'Religion'.

1: Wrong. Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity or deities, not the belief in lack.
2: Wrong, atheism says nothing about whether or not there is an afterlife.


depends if it is gnostic or agnostic atheism.

I believe in the lack of deities, it's not that I lack belief in deities.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:19 pm

Martean wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:1: Wrong. Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity or deities, not the belief in lack.
2: Wrong, atheism says nothing about whether or not there is an afterlife.


depends if it is gnostic or agnostic atheism.

I believe in the lack of deities, it's not that I lack belief in deities.

Then you're just as bad as theists.
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Postby Devils advocate Liberonscien » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:50 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Martean wrote:
depends if it is gnostic or agnostic atheism.

I believe in the lack of deities, it's not that I lack belief in deities.

Then you're just as bad as theists.

Why do you think that?
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Postby Harpers Ferry » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:54 pm

Transyl wrote:
Creepoc Infinite wrote:Your family is full of complete jerks. I had to deal with a similar situation, but with friends and colleagues, not my family.

You think? I have to deal with people saying that Atheism isn't a religion, when it actually is. If you have beliefs, no matter what they are or what its called, its is a religion..by the definition.

That is because it isn't.
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Postby Communist Volkstrad » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:56 pm

It's not a belief, it is lack of belief. It has no properties of a religion whatsoever.
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Postby Myrensis » Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:06 pm

Transyl wrote: You think? I have to deal with people saying that Atheism isn't a religion, when it actually is. If you have beliefs, no matter what they are or what its called, its is a religion..by the definition.


This is, frankly, dumb, and stretches the word 'religion' the point of meaninglessness, since it means everyone on the planet is actually a member of thousands, possibly millions of religions.

Off the top of my head I am apparently a member of:

The Religion of Gravity, the Religion of Electricity, the Religion of Internal Combustion Engines, the Religion of Atheism, the Religion of Atoothfairyism, the Religion of Aleprechaunism, the Religion of Radio Waves, the Religion of Light, the Religion of Ice Cream Flavors, the Religion of Music, the Religion of Video Games, the Religion of Computers, the Religion of Colors, the Religion of Sex, the Religion of Internet, the Religion of Water, the Religion of Astronomy, the Religion of Science...and countless others.

I mean, after all, I have "beliefs" about all of those things, QED all of those things constitute their own religions. :roll:

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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:21 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Martean wrote:
depends if it is gnostic or agnostic atheism.

I believe in the lack of deities, it's not that I lack belief in deities.

Then you're just as bad as theists.

Why? Because we admit at this moment were are incapable of knowing whether or not there is a Supreme Being?
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Postby Martean » Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:30 pm

Sebastianbourg wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Then you're just as bad as theists.

Why? Because we admit at this moment were are incapable of knowing whether or not there is a Supreme Being?

But chances are there is not, just see how many times all religions have gone 'a step back' and have admited errors in their holy texts, if we continue like this, in a couple of centuries religion will be doomed.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:33 pm

Sebastianbourg wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Then you're just as bad as theists.

Why? Because we admit at this moment were are incapable of knowing whether or not there is a Supreme Being?

Because you're making a leap of faith.
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Postby Lost heros » Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:39 pm

Sebastianbourg wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Then you're just as bad as theists.

Why? Because we admit at this moment were are incapable of knowing whether or not there is a Supreme Being?

Except Martean basically said he was a gnostic atheist, which means he claims to know that a supreme being doesn't exist.
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So, What's going on in this thread?
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Postby The Great Warrior Rivers » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:22 pm

Creepoc Infinite wrote:I saw that there was an atheist discussion thread that hasn't been posted on for a year or so.
So I decided to make a new one. This is not about any particular topic, it's just a general discussion area for nonreligious folk and especially atheists, however, there is nothing stopping religious people from commenting here too.

Astarte any topic you want, it's all up to you.
But I'd like to start with a topic concerning atheists:

Are Atheists a minority that is stigmatized and discriminated against?
Are we an oppressed minority?

1. No, I don't believe so. Just a stereotype here or there. It doesn't bother me at all.
2. Nope, religious tolerance is a thing, even if you believe in lack of religion. That's just how it works.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:22 pm

Snakelan wrote:So, What's going on in this thread?


We're plotting how to spread our ebul secularist gayspiracy to the masses.
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:22 pm

We're stigmatized in certain cases, yes. But in no way oppressed, at least, not in the US. I can still continue to say whatever I want about Religion.
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Postby District XIV » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:25 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Snakelan wrote:So, What's going on in this thread?


We're plotting how to spread our ebul secularist gayspiracy to the masses.

You weren't supposed to tell him >:c

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Postby Benuty » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:26 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Snakelan wrote:So, What's going on in this thread?


We're plotting how to spread our ebul secularist gayspiracy to the masses.

The religious humanists already beat you to it.
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Postby The Great Warrior Rivers » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:26 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Sebastianbourg wrote:Why? Because we admit at this moment were are incapable of knowing whether or not there is a Supreme Being?

Because you're making a leap of faith.

No I'm not. It's a hypothesis that can be changed at any given time, so I can land wherever I want and still be correct. In theism, you have a strict set of rules in what "god" is and how to worship. In Atheism, scientific advancements change day to day so I can adjust my opinion based off of that.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:27 pm

District XIV wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
We're plotting how to spread our ebul secularist gayspiracy to the masses.

You weren't supposed to tell him >:c


It's alright, he'll join us. We all must serve the hivemind.

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
We're plotting how to spread our ebul secularist gayspiracy to the masses.

The religious humanists already beat you to it.


Nonsense, begone with your propaganda!
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Postby Benuty » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:29 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
District XIV wrote:You weren't supposed to tell him >:c


It's alright, he'll join us. We all must serve the hivemind.

Benuty wrote:The religious humanists already beat you to it.


Nonsense, begone with your propaganda!

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