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Postby The Rebel Alliances » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:00 pm

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Zaldakki wrote:I kind of really love sex, maybe a little too much.



As a virgin, I have no idea why I'm even on this thread

:3


I am a virgin too. Perhaps a bit old for one at 22. Most lose that in a new york minute in high school.

But, a lot of the reason for me still being a virgin is because I place a large emotional attachment to sex and has been stated. If I just want pleasure, there are easier ways of doing it. I would be thrilled if I wait until marriage and only have one special partner. But, I dont think I am going to go out of my way to avoid it either if I just so happen to find the one for me. I have a friend who has had many partners, and the life style does not appeal to me. I only need one woman. And really dont care to have more.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:07 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:But yes, moderation. Doesn't take a Chinese philosopher to tell us that.


It isn't that easy to universally define how much is too much. Anything more than only a few times a week runs the risk for side effects if a male can't handle it. It could be only once a day or less for some people. I'm never ever going to have high libido that would enable more, so perhaps I'm going to stop losing my hair now that I've stopped.
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Postby Valaran » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:09 pm

As another of the virgin horde apparently on this thread, I would assume its a good thing on the whole, either casually or with a loving partner. Perhaps not something one should be fixated over.

But, uh, my experience is rather limited.
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Postby -Ebola- » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:11 pm

I'm not interested in sex, except as a means of getting from one body to another, especially if I need to get out in a hurry after losing a fight with somebody's immune system. Embarrassing when that happens... :?
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Postby Firsthome » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:14 pm

The Rebel Alliances wrote:
Firsthome wrote:

As a virgin, I have no idea why I'm even on this thread

:3


I am a virgin too. Perhaps a bit old for one at 22. Most lose that in a new york minute in high school.

But, a lot of the reason for me still being a virgin is because I place a large emotional attachment to sex and has been stated. If I just want pleasure, there are easier ways of doing it. I would be thrilled if I wait until marriage and only have one special partner. But, I dont think I am going to go out of my way to avoid it either if I just so happen to find the one for me. I have a friend who has had many partners, and the life style does not appeal to me. I only need one woman. And really dont care to have more.


Not sarcasm

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:23 pm

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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:23 pm

The absence of sex has played a very negative role in my life. The presence of sex in my life has played a much less meaningful role except of course with reproduction. As a young man I was sexually rejected by my first love. She told me that she loved me but we never had sex. I mean we never did not even to this day 23 years later. I have accomplished many things but I think that everything I have done is an attempt to futilely fill the hole in my heart from never having sex with her or the other girl who rejected me as a young man whom I liked a lot and was really attracted to.

I know that there is alot of young people here. My advice to young people is two fold. First use protection from pregnancy and stds. Second, use protection against sexual rejection by not dating anyone who is not super eager to have sex with you. Otherwise you are going to open yourself up to a lot of hurt that could last a lifetime. Being sexually rejected by someone who loves you is the closest thing I can personally relate to a rape experience because it causes permanent emotional harm and has issues of sex and consent. It is the opposite of rape in that you are not having sex against your will, and people who never experienced it might dismiss it as no big deal but in a way it is horrible because it never goes away as long as you still haven't had sex with that person. I will probably die not haing had sex with that woman and I hope that will be the end of my suffering for this failure of mine that I had no control over.
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Postby Page » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:25 pm

Meaningless sex is awesome but sex with someone you love is even better.

Meaningless sex < Drugs < Sex with love
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Postby Cetacea » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:41 pm

Page wrote:Meaningless sex is awesome but sex with someone you love is even better.

Meaningless sex > Drugs > Sex with love.


Meaningless sex is greater than Drugs? or am I not suppose to see that as a math symbol:)

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
I know that there is alot of young people here. My advice to young people is ...use protection against sexual rejection by not dating anyone who is not super eager to have sex with you. Otherwise you are going to open yourself up to a lot of hurt that could last a lifetime. Being sexually rejected by someone who loves you is the closest thing I can personally relate to a rape experience because it causes permanent emotional harm and has issues of sex and consent. It is the opposite of rape in that you are not having sex against your will, and people who never experienced it might dismiss it as no big deal but in a way it is horrible because it never goes away as long as you still haven't had sex with that person. I will probably die not haing had sex with that woman and I hope that will be the end of my suffering for this failure of mine that I had no control over.


um I hope that was tongue-in-cheek (feel free to select any other orifice) but that is terrible advice! Tying your sense of worth to sex is the absolute wrong way to view sex. Sex is not a natural consequence of love and if an object of your affection does not want to have sex with you then thats fine, friendship like any other relationship should not be dependent on your ability to access sex.

Sex is wonderful but it does not define you or your relationships with anyone - except your parents ( :blush: hehe yes icky thought but biologically true 8) )

oh and for the virgin crew, while I was groping from a young age, I didn't actually have vaginal intercourse until I was 19. I've had a great sex life since then too so don't rush in...

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Postby NERVUN » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:47 pm

Cetacea wrote:
Page wrote:Meaningless sex is awesome but sex with someone you love is even better.

Meaningless sex > Drugs > Sex with love.


Meaningless sex is greater than Drugs? or am I not suppose to see that as a math symbol:)

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
I know that there is alot of young people here. My advice to young people is ...use protection against sexual rejection by not dating anyone who is not super eager to have sex with you. Otherwise you are going to open yourself up to a lot of hurt that could last a lifetime. Being sexually rejected by someone who loves you is the closest thing I can personally relate to a rape experience because it causes permanent emotional harm and has issues of sex and consent. It is the opposite of rape in that you are not having sex against your will, and people who never experienced it might dismiss it as no big deal but in a way it is horrible because it never goes away as long as you still haven't had sex with that person. I will probably die not haing had sex with that woman and I hope that will be the end of my suffering for this failure of mine that I had no control over.


um I hope that was tongue-in-cheek (feel free to select any other orifice) but that is terrible advice! Tying your sense of worth to sex is the absolute wrong way to view sex. Sex is not a natural consequence of love and if an object of your affection does not want to have sex with you then thats fine, friendship like any other relationship should not be dependent on your ability to access sex.

Sex is wonderful but it does not define you or your relationships with anyone - except your parents ( :blush: hehe yes icky thought but biologically true 8) )

oh and for the virgin crew, while I was groping from a young age, I didn't actually have vaginal intercourse until I was 19. I've had a great sex life since then too so don't rush in...

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Postby Othelos » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:49 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I've read that either the orgasm or the act of sex keeps the prostate healthy. Must double check that.


I still intend on quitting masturbation. It is hard to definitively prove, but I along with Chinese philosophers maintain that it can wreck havoc on the male body if taken to enough of an excess. It might just be a placebo effect, but I've noticed small improvements just from quitting for long enough. I'm not setting any deadline though, because I feel if I anticipate too much; it will make it less likely that I'll end up officially "cured" by sometime next year.

If you aren't sexually active, then it is probably healthier to masturbate every once in a while than not at all.

Besides...I'm not sure how avoiding it completely is possible....

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Postby Othelos » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:52 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:But yes, moderation. Doesn't take a Chinese philosopher to tell us that.


It isn't that easy to universally define how much is too much. Anything more than only a few times a week runs the risk for side effects if a male can't handle it. It could be only once a day or less for some people. I'm never ever going to have high libido that would enable more, so perhaps I'm going to stop losing my hair now that I've stopped.

what does sex/masturbation have to do with hair loss

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Postby PurgatoryHell » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:52 pm

To me it means busting one off inside the lady. It's all about me baby.

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Postby Glorious Freedonia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:56 pm

Cetacea wrote:
Page wrote:Meaningless sex is awesome but sex with someone you love is even better.

Meaningless sex > Drugs > Sex with love.


Meaningless sex is greater than Drugs? or am I not suppose to see that as a math symbol:)

Glorious Freedonia wrote:
I know that there is alot of young people here. My advice to young people is ...use protection against sexual rejection by not dating anyone who is not super eager to have sex with you. Otherwise you are going to open yourself up to a lot of hurt that could last a lifetime. Being sexually rejected by someone who loves you is the closest thing I can personally relate to a rape experience because it causes permanent emotional harm and has issues of sex and consent. It is the opposite of rape in that you are not having sex against your will, and people who never experienced it might dismiss it as no big deal but in a way it is horrible because it never goes away as long as you still haven't had sex with that person. I will probably die not haing had sex with that woman and I hope that will be the end of my suffering for this failure of mine that I had no control over.


um I hope that was tongue-in-cheek (feel free to select any other orifice) but that is terrible advice! Tying your sense of worth to sex is the absolute wrong way to view sex. Sex is not a natural consequence of love and if an object of your affection does not want to have sex with you then thats fine, friendship like any other relationship should not be dependent on your ability to access sex.

Sex is wonderful but it does not define you or your relationships with anyone - except your parents ( :blush: hehe yes icky thought but biologically true 8) )

oh and for the virgin crew, while I was groping from a young age, I didn't actually have vaginal intercourse until I was 19. I've had a great sex life since then too so don't rush in...


I meant everything I said. I do not want any young people to suffer like I did. Also, you do not get to pick your sense of worth. You can try to compensate for your failures by doing other good things but if something makes you feel lousy you really cannot help it.

Why is my advice so bad? Surely you do not want young people to get rejected sexually by their first loves and feel terrible for the rest of their lives.

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Postby Spoder » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:56 pm

Othelos wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
It isn't that easy to universally define how much is too much. Anything more than only a few times a week runs the risk for side effects if a male can't handle it. It could be only once a day or less for some people. I'm never ever going to have high libido that would enable more, so perhaps I'm going to stop losing my hair now that I've stopped.

what does sex/masturbation have to do with hair loss

Decrease in testosterone.

Constant self-satisfaction results in decreased testosterone.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:58 pm

Othelos wrote:what does sex/masturbation have to do with hair loss


Apparently it can cause an over production of DHT which later converts to testosterone, and too much of that is a common reason for hair loss, this page explains all the endocrine processes that can take place through the various stages.
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Postby Othelos » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:59 pm

Spoder wrote:
Othelos wrote:what does sex/masturbation have to do with hair loss

Decrease in testosterone.

Constant self-satisfaction results in decreased testosterone.

sex doesn't decrease testosterone levels. In fact, testosterone levels may increase during masturbation.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/24668 ... tosterone/

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Postby Spoder » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:59 pm

Othelos wrote:
Spoder wrote:Decrease in testosterone.

Constant self-satisfaction results in decreased testosterone.

sex doesn't decrease testosterone levels. In fact, testosterone levels may increase during masturbation.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/24668 ... tosterone/

Directly after, yes.

When I said constant, I meant multiple times daily.
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Postby Othelos » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:01 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Othelos wrote:what does sex/masturbation have to do with hair loss


Apparently it can cause an over production of DHT which later converts to testosterone, and too much of that is a common reason for hair loss, this page explains all the endocrine processes that can take place through the various stages.

It only says an addiction to masturbation/overdoing it can cause that.

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Spoder wrote:
Othelos wrote:sex doesn't decrease testosterone levels. In fact, testosterone levels may increase during masturbation.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/24668 ... tosterone/

Directly after, yes.

When I said constant, I meant multiple times daily.

do you have a source for that?

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Postby Threlizdun » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:02 pm

Firsthome wrote:Not sarcasm

:bow:

Congratulations!

You aren't a horny bastard/slut!

You get kudos!

(And a free brownie)

:)
Please don't use those terms. Someone can have a high sec drive or none at all. Neither is an indication of your character. Both slut shaming and virgin shaming are equally detestable.
Glorious Freedonia wrote:The absence of sex has played a very negative role in my life. The presence of sex in my life has played a much less meaningful role except of course with reproduction. As a young man I was sexually rejected by my first love. She told me that she loved me but we never had sex. I mean we never did not even to this day 23 years later. I have accomplished many things but I think that everything I have done is an attempt to futilely fill the hole in my heart from never having sex with her or the other girl who rejected me as a young man whom I liked a lot and was really attracted to.

I know that there is alot of young people here. My advice to young people is two fold. First use protection from pregnancy and stds. Second, use protection against sexual rejection by not dating anyone who is not super eager to have sex with you. Otherwise you are going to open yourself up to a lot of hurt that could last a lifetime. Being sexually rejected by someone who loves you is the closest thing I can personally relate to a rape experience because it causes permanent emotional harm and has issues of sex and consent. It is the opposite of rape in that you are not having sex against your will, and people who never experienced it might dismiss it as no big deal but in a way it is horrible because it never goes away as long as you still haven't had sex with that person. I will probably die not haing had sex with that woman and I hope that will be the end of my suffering for this failure of mine that I had no control over.
If this is hurting you this much and you are still in a relationship with them then you really need to talk to them about it. If you feel the lack of sex is hurting you, then you need to learn why they are unwilling to have it with you. If they are genuinely uncomfortable with sex, then you may want to consider even allowing mutually informed sexual relations with others outside of your relationship. I can't give you much advice because I don't know the specifics of your relationship, but if it is a problem, then you definitely need to address it.
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Postby Spoder » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:03 pm

Othelos wrote:
Spoder wrote:Directly after, yes.

When I said constant, I meant multiple times daily.

do you have a source for that?

I'm on a school computer at home >_>
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:03 pm

Othelos wrote:It only says an addiction to masturbation/overdoing it can cause that.


It describes what happens more in detail when you click on the <more> links next to each picture of the respective stages of hair loss.
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Postby Hudsinia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:04 pm

I've never had sex, but I imagine it as being a fun thing that's even better with a loved one.
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