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Postby Constantinopolis » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:13 pm

How is this news?

The Catholic Church has officially endorsed evolution for decades.

Were people just not aware? The allegorical interpretation of Genesis within Christianity is much older than the literal interpretation. Here's St. Augustine writing about it in the 4th or 5th century.

(thanks go to Archregimancy for posting that link a long time ago in another thread, by the way!)
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Postby Eleanor Ritas » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:16 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:How is this news?

The Catholic Church has officially endorsed evolution for decades.

Were people just not aware? The allegorical interpretation of Genesis within Christianity is much older than the literal interpretation. Here's St. Augustine writing about it in the 4th or 5th century.

(thanks go to Archregimancy for posting that link a long time ago in another thread, by the way!)


Considering some of the jackass young earth creationism that some of their protestant competition are endorsing, I can't blame them for putting the Papal seal on the side of the Darwin Fish-with-feet thing. Endorsing Ken Hovind is like Andy Dick trying to get sponsors in Nascar.
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:20 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:How is this news?

The Catholic Church has officially endorsed evolution for decades.

Were people just not aware? The allegorical interpretation of Genesis within Christianity is much older than the literal interpretation. Here's St. Augustine writing about it in the 4th or 5th century.

(thanks go to Archregimancy for posting that link a long time ago in another thread, by the way!)

It seems people hadn't realised till now.

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Postby Jute » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:23 pm

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Constantinopolis wrote:How is this news?

The Catholic Church has officially endorsed evolution for decades.

Were people just not aware? The allegorical interpretation of Genesis within Christianity is much older than the literal interpretation. Here's St. Augustine writing about it in the 4th or 5th century.

(thanks go to Archregimancy for posting that link a long time ago in another thread, by the way!)

It seems people hadn't realised till now.

Good thing they will maybe do now.
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Postby Constantinopolis » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:25 pm

Eleanor Ritas wrote:Considering some of the jackass young earth creationism that some of their protestant competition are endorsing, I can't blame them for putting the Papal seal on the side of the Darwin Fish-with-feet thing. Endorsing Ken Hovind is like Andy Dick trying to get sponsors in Nascar.

You know, Pope Francis should start a weekly "Did you know..." column to inform people about all the progressive views that the Catholic Church has held all along but which always seem to come as a surprise when the Pope mentions them.

Or maybe that won't be necessary. His current media strategy seems to be working beautifully. He keeps mentioning those progressive doctrines (some of which are literally ancient, as in they date back to Roman times) and the media keeps turning them into major news stories that make the Catholic Church look good.

They might as well run this headline every time:

"Shocking! The Pope is not a conservative Protestant! More on this developing story..."
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:28 pm

The Roman Catholic Church has endorsed evolution with divine guidance before. This isn't news. The Big Bang? Proposed by a Catholic priest. Of course they'll support one of their ideas. :p
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Postby Senyosu » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:28 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:
Eleanor Ritas wrote:Considering some of the jackass young earth creationism that some of their protestant competition are endorsing, I can't blame them for putting the Papal seal on the side of the Darwin Fish-with-feet thing. Endorsing Ken Hovind is like Andy Dick trying to get sponsors in Nascar.

You know, Pope Francis should start a weekly "Did you know..." column to inform people about all the progressive views that the Catholic Church has held all along but which always seem to come as a surprise when the Pope mentions them.

Or maybe that won't be necessary. His current media strategy seems to be working beautifully. He keeps mentioning those progressive doctrines (some of which are literally ancient, as in they date back to Roman times) and the media keeps turning them into major news stories that make the Catholic Church look good.

They might as well run this headline every time:

"Shocking! The Pope is not a conservative Protestant! More on this developing story..."

I'd love to see a blow to Protestant credibility as well.
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Postby Eleanor Ritas » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:35 pm

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Constantinopolis wrote:You know, Pope Francis should start a weekly "Did you know..." column to inform people about all the progressive views that the Catholic Church has held all along but which always seem to come as a surprise when the Pope mentions them.

Or maybe that won't be necessary. His current media strategy seems to be working beautifully. He keeps mentioning those progressive doctrines (some of which are literally ancient, as in they date back to Roman times) and the media keeps turning them into major news stories that make the Catholic Church look good.

They might as well run this headline every time:

"Shocking! The Pope is not a conservative Protestant! More on this developing story..."

I'd love to see a blow to Protestant credibility as well.


Apparently Joseph Smith had a 14 year old wife. I dunno if he boned her though. Maybe he married her but then when they went to the top of the barn or whatever, she said there wass no waaaay.
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Postby Constantinopolis » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:39 pm

Eleanor Ritas wrote:
Senyosu wrote:I'd love to see a blow to Protestant credibility as well.

Apparently Joseph Smith had a 14 year old wife. I dunno if he boned her though. Maybe he married her but then when they went to the top of the barn or whatever, she said there wass no waaaay.

Mormons are not Protestants.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:42 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:
Eleanor Ritas wrote:Apparently Joseph Smith had a 14 year old wife. I dunno if he boned her though. Maybe he married her but then when they went to the top of the barn or whatever, she said there wass no waaaay.

Mormons are not Protestants.

He had several wives who were still married, was a paedophile, and a con man who died at the hands of mob justice.
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:43 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:
Eleanor Ritas wrote:Apparently Joseph Smith had a 14 year old wife. I dunno if he boned her though. Maybe he married her but then when they went to the top of the barn or whatever, she said there wass no waaaay.

Mormons are not Protestants.

It is up for debate whether they're even Christians.

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Postby Constantinopolis » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:45 pm

Sebastianbourg wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:Mormons are not Protestants.

It is up for debate whether they're even Christians.

Yes, and I would say they are not Christians.

But in any case, they are certainly not Protestants.
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Postby Pagan Hungary » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:48 pm

Cool I guess, the Catholic view on evolution has been like this for awhile I think. I guess Pope Francis is cooler than all the other Popes.
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Postby Nerotysia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:50 pm

Pagan Hungary wrote:Cool I guess, the Catholic view on evolution has been like this for awhile I think. I guess Pope Francis is cooler than all the other Popes.

He certainly seems to have more of a grip on reality than other Popes.

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Postby Phoenixfox » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:51 pm

Sigh...the world is going downhill. True Christians becoming increasingly at odds with the rest of society. :(

I'm not a catholic, but it's sad to see them descend to this level.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:52 pm

Tsk tsk.
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:53 pm

Phoenixfox wrote:Sigh...the world is going downhill. True Christians becoming increasingly at odds with the rest of society. :(

I'm not a catholic, but it's sad to see them descend to this level.

We Catholics have recognised evolution and the Big Bang for a couple of decades now.
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Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:Tsk tsk.

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Postby Phoenixfox » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:53 pm

Sebastianbourg wrote:
Phoenixfox wrote:Sigh...the world is going downhill. True Christians becoming increasingly at odds with the rest of society. :(

I'm not a catholic, but it's sad to see them descend to this level.

We Catholics have recognised evolution and the Big Bang for a couple of decades now.

Another hit to my opinion of Catholicism...

but now they're being open about it
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:53 pm

I will pray that the Catholic Church puts an end to this error. We must take a stand on a literal Genesis or risk compromising the entire Bible.
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Postby Nerotysia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:53 pm

Phoenixfox wrote:Sigh...the world is going downhill uphill. True Christians becoming increasingly at odds with the rest of society. :)

I'm not a catholic, but it's sad fantastic to see them descend ascend to this level.

Fixed for you.

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Postby New Comfederate States of America » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:54 pm

Just another reason I gave up Catholicism and am now a Protestant.

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Postby Auroya » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:54 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:I will pray that the Catholic Church puts an end to this error. We must take a stand on a literal Genesis or risk compromising the entire Bible.


The Bible isn't entirely literal.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:54 pm

Nerotysia wrote:
Phoenixfox wrote:Sigh...the world is going downhill uphill. True Christians becoming increasingly at odds with the rest of society. :)

I'm not a catholic, but it's sad fantastic to see them descend ascend to this level.

Fixed for you.


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Postby Nerotysia » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:55 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:I will pray that the Catholic Church puts an end to this error. We must take a stand on a literal Genesis or risk compromising the entire Bible.

So...all books need to be taken totally literally or they risk becoming "compromised?"

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