Statistics Don't Support Rape Culture

[Galloism]

So how can people not be afraid when it's being touted that in in 4 women will be sexually assaulted while in college, yet women make up the majority of college students? I would argue the ones who want you to be afraid are the ones screeching the 1 in 4 lie.

And how do I blame victims? Often times they aren't responsible for the motivations of their rapist, but there are indeed steps they can take to defend themselves and prevent this crap form happening to them?

What? I have no idea what you're getting at, and quite frankly, that sounds downright paranoid.

You're blaming victims by suggesting if people are not downright paranoid and fearful of every time they come into contact with a woman that they will get raped, that they're somehow at fault. Again, this is absurd, considering way less men get raped outside of prison.

I find that a hard pill to swallow, given it seems that over 1.2 million men outside of prison are raped each year in the US alone, most of them by women.

Source that over 1.2 million men in prison are raped each year?

[Saiwania]

I know that women can rape men but I'll admit as much, I wouldn't feel as intimidated about a female trying to rape me as I would if it was another man. I don't think the scenario is anywhere near as likely as male on female rape, and women on average are physically weaker than men.

[Tahar Joblis]

There already is.

example?

In theory false accusers can be slapped with filing a false police report. In practice, this doesn't happen very often, and feminists have worked long and hard to try to insure that false accusers aren't being punished, with the idea that punishing false accusers could discourage victims from coming forward.

There's no need to draw up a specific penalty for false accusation of rape, or even for falsely accusing a specific person, specifically; statutes relating to filing false police reports (covering waste of police time), libel (covering damage to reputation), and the general system of compensatory damages (covering things like unwarranted expulsion) are sufficient, provided they do not - de facto or de jure - provide a special exemption for people making accusations of rape.

[Haktiva]

example?

In theory false accusers can be slapped with filing a false police report. In practice, this doesn't happen very often, and feminists have worked long and hard to try to insure that false accusers aren't being punished, with the idea that punishing false accusers could discourage victims from coming forward.

There's no need to draw up a specific penalty for false accusation of rape, or even for falsely accusing a specific person, specifically; statutes relating to filing false police reports (covering waste of police time), libel (covering damage to reputation), and the general system of compensatory damages (covering things like unwarranted expulsion) are sufficient, provided they do not - de facto or de jure - provide a special exemption for people making accusations of rape.

Feminism is largely about making money while changing culture for the worst nowadays. Feminism is the business of professional victims.

[Tahar Joblis]

Feminism is largely about making money while changing culture for the worst nowadays. Feminism is the business of professional victims.

Feminism is more complicated and more simple than that.

Simply, feminism is about making sure that women don't get screwed over.

Yes, there are some professional feminists, and some of those professional feminists have a business model of professional victims. Some feminists seem more interested in propagating and sustaining their movement and funding engine than in actually getting things done. But overall, once you sort past the bad actors, scam artists, and occasional raging hate-filled maniac, the movement has a clear mission of trying to make sure that no woman ever gets screwed over for any reason.

The problem, of course, is that sometimes, trying to make sure all women are protected from everything has collateral effects that aren't very nice or fair.

[Rosov]

Eh, simple solution, really.

Just castrate perpetrators.

Of course, you'll have to make doubly sure that they actually committed the crime (and seduction wouldn't count as rape), but the punishment would be fitting, and discourage other rapists.

In the United States, I believe that would be banned because it falls under Cruel and Unusual Punishment.

[Maineiacs]

As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

To be honest, if anything like most of NSG awaits one of my own daughters in the future, I'd rather for her not to date at all while in high school and most of college.

Then again, I'm glad the real world is not like NSG.

[Dyakovo]

As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

Just ensure she identifies as a feminist... That'll scare most of them away.

[Norstal]

As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

Thinking the majority of NSG is what represents the outside world is very wrong.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

Just ensure she identifies as a feminist... That'll scare most of them away.

To be honest, I don't know what the big deal is if a woman identifies as a feminist and is loud on the issues.

I've dated self-proclaimed feminists, and they're not the kind of women who I'd say are "undateable".

An identification does not a character make I guess.

EDIT: I know it was a joke, but I couldn't pass that comment opportunity up

[Galloism]

As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

To be honest, if anything like most of NSG awaits one of my own daughters in the future, I'd rather for her not to date at all while in high school and most of college.

Then again, I'm glad the real world is not like NSG.

I fear for my hypothetical son(s) as well, perhaps even moreso, and not because of NSG - but because of our culture of rape denial. It's terrifying on all sorts of levels that no one seems to give a shit about their bodily integrity - even those who state their mission statement is to do so.

[Saiwania]

As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

It is her life so I guess not much can be done. I mean, I'd really hate for my children to marry outside of their race, but if it does happen; what am I going to do- disown them?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

To be honest, if anything like most of NSG awaits one of my own daughters in the future, I'd rather for her not to date at all while in high school and most of college.

Then again, I'm glad the real world is not like NSG.

I fear for my hypothetical son(s) as well, perhaps even moreso, and not because of NSG - but because of our culture of rape denial. It's terrifying on all sorts of levels that no one seems to give a shit about their bodily integrity - even those who state their mission statement is to do so.

I'm less afraid of my children being stripped of their bodily sovereignty than what I find them becoming disappointed at my generation.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

It is her life so I guess not much can be done. I mean, I'd really hate for my children to marry outside of their race, but if it does happen; what am I going to do- disown them?

We really can't do much with our own children but support their decisions.

Which is, to be fair, one of the reasons why I don't have children yet. Because I want to make sure I can back them up on the right choices they make and provide advice for them when they are going down a path that I perceive is wrong to follow, and protect them when I should. And I don't feel to make that commitment just yet.

[Gauthier]

I don't care what girls wear.

As long as they don't wear flip flops and short shorts. I hate those

Short shorts should actually be banned (that go above the knee). If it goes to your knee, it's okay. But anything higher, and that's calling for trouble.

Any woman who isn't wearing a burqa is calling for trouble. *nod nod*

[Galloism]

I fear for my hypothetical son(s) as well, perhaps even moreso, and not because of NSG - but because of our culture of rape denial. It's terrifying on all sorts of levels that no one seems to give a shit about their bodily integrity - even those who state their mission statement is to do so.

I'm less afraid of my children being stripped of their bodily sovereignty than what I find them becoming disappointed at my generation.

I'm already disappointed enough at your generation (and most generations) for all of us.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I'm less afraid of my children being stripped of their bodily sovereignty than what I find them becoming disappointed at my generation.

I'm already disappointed enough at your generation (and most generations) for all of us.

My point is though, that my generation seems to have taken a step backwards. When my children go to school and see what our generation has done, we'll probably be dubbed as the "do nothing" generation.

[NoblePhnx]

Any woman who isn't wearing a burqa is calling for trouble. *nod nod*

lel you'd think that would wrap it all up wouldn't you (pun intended)

[Sebastianbourg]

There's a lot of negative connotation that goes with feminism, because most people don't actually know what the fuck it is.

That said, a lot needs to be changed about rape culture.

There needs to be way less tolerance, and far harsher punishments.

I think many self-described feminists do not understand what feminism is really about; they've reduced it to man-hating while affecting the image of normal, non-man-hating feminism.

[United States of The One Percent]

This thread is going to be a blast

Yeah, a bunch of guys complaining about how bad life is these days for rapists. What's next, how young black men always seem to get in the way of the bullets when white cops happen to be shooting I suppose.

Have any of you known any woman who has been raped? I have. Would you be calling your female friends and relations these kinds of names if they had been raped?

Here's a thought: instead of "dicking around on the Internet" for your information, try talking to a rape victim. Until you have some better information than what you can find on Wikipedia about some topic, how about shutting the fuck up about it?

[Threlizdun]

As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

As an 18 year old girl, this thread makes me fear my own safety should I ever have to encounter some of these people.

[Destiny Island]

This thread is going to be a blast

Yeah, a bunch of guys complaining about how bad life is these days for rapists. What's next, how young black men always seem to get in the way of the bullets when white cops happen to be shooting I suppose.

Have any of you known any woman who has been raped? I have. Would you be calling your female friends and relations these kinds of names if they had been raped?

Here's a thought: instead of "dicking around on the Internet" for your information, try talking to a rape victim. Until you have some better information than what you can find on Wikipedia about some topic, how about shutting the fuck up about it?

We don't need sources or evidence, we need anecdotes! Nothing but anecdotes!

[Firsthome]

As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

I'm perfectly normal... (Not) but I'm not a pervert, rapist, or sexual abuser.

I'm just smart, ugly, and submissive

[Firsthome]

As the father of a teenage daughter, I find much of this thread disturbing. If guys like most of you are what await her, I'd rather she were a lesbian.

As an 18 year old girl, this thread makes me fear my own safety should I ever have to encounter some of these people.

As a 15 year old male, I feel bad that men rape people....

And that men doing that make people scared...

And that I'm submissive.