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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:23 am

No, NS is just a place where every political or spiritual group thinks the rest of the place is out to get them. A miniature society, in short.
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Postby Benuty » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:42 am

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Frees up your Sundays.

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Postby Mystral » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:56 am

I think the internet is becoming less tolerant of religion. Seriously, I was called a dumbass in 9gag for defending the views of a former atheist.
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Postby Rhodisia » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:02 am

I really couldn't give a flying rat's ass about religion, as long as you don't try to force it on me.
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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:13 am

Mystral wrote:I think the internet is becoming less tolerant of religion. Seriously, I was called a dumbass in 9gag for defending the views of a former atheist.

Because that would never have happened before... :roll:
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Postby Tekania » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:31 am

Rhodisia wrote:I really couldn't give a flying rat's ass about religion, as long as you don't try to force it on me.


TBH, if I had a flying rat I would be demanding a pretty high price for giving up its ass.
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Postby YellowApple » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:56 am

Mystral wrote:I think the internet is becoming less tolerant of religion. Seriously, I was called a dumbass in 9gag for defending the views of a former atheist.


I think you were called a dumbass because you were on 9gag in the first place. ;)

But yes, the World Wide Web does have a relatively-high concentration of atheism, probably because there's so much information available on the WWW disproving (or otherwise conflicting with and actually having explanations other than "it says so in $holy_book") a lot of theistic/spiritual explanations of how the universe works; with an abundance of resources like Wikipedia available for people to peruse and learn from regardless of national (in most cases), intellectual, or economic background, you're bound to end up with a large number of people who insist on believing explanations backed by observable evidence (especially if they're familiar with Wikipedia; suddenly, anything that doesn't have a citation next to it is immediately questionable), and the freeform nature of the WWW allows those people to be able to converse relatively-freely about their observations and beliefs.

Interestingly, also due to the freeform nature of the WWW, you also have a high concentration of fundamentalist whackjobs and religious extremists (often one and the same) using the WWW as a soapbox upon which they can stand and yell at people about their beliefs. This makes for some very entertaining drama when these two extremes collide with virtually zero middle ground, particularly since the middle ground (agnostics, non-devout members of religious faiths, less-extreme religious denominations, etc.) is pretty quiet in comparison.

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Postby The United Districts of Wanderers » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:10 am

The reason for such toleration of posts is outlined in freedom of speech. People who do not understand why we believe in God tend to put him down. While I was able to find people who were just inquisitive and not total put-downs, too many of the comments are negative towards religion. This is due to: A) The Prosperity Gospel preachers who have everything wrong, B) The fact that Marxism and Liberalism have dominated most public campuses, C) The terrorists in the Middle East, and D) The ineffectiveness of the people following the religion. It has been a long time since I have seen someone able to stand up to atheists and defend their religion (last time was in God's Not Dead.). These issues need to be fixed, or else religion is in very serious trouble.
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Postby YellowApple » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:33 am

The United Districts of Wanderers wrote: It has been a long time since I have seen someone able to stand up to atheists and defend their religion


I reckon because doing so is pretty difficult if you believe in religious texts literally, since the information contained within them has since generally been obsolesced by new information obtained via observational evidence. However, by understanding the contexts in which such scriptures were written and why they were written the way they were, one can have a better understanding of the parts that actually matter - the parts about loving one's enemies (because it ultimately gives your enemies less reason to be enemies in the first place, thus being a better use of time and energy) and not killing people (because that's pretty mean) and such - as well as the parts that probably don't matter as much anymore or could use some clarification, like not eating pork (because if you don't cook it right you can get really really sick and die) or not sodomizing one another (because it doesn't help your population grow and therefore puts you at a disadvantage when your tribe is vastly outnumbered by the next one over).

Basically, even while I'm technically an atheist, I can still find use and value in scriptures because I'm no longer bound to them in a literal sense; instead, they become more like Aesop's works: fables and parables that were meant to teach important lessons on how one should live a prosperous life. Some of them aren't applicable anymore (for example, we now know how to cook pork properly and not die of food poisoning, and overpopulation has diminished the importance of sex being reproductive), while others very much are applicable (like not killing people or otherwise being a jerk, since that tends to just cause people to want to be mean to you in turn, like what's happening in the Middle East and elsewhere).

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Postby Coreyea » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:34 am

No, the majority of people here have always sucked.

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Postby Stormwind-City » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:39 am

NATIONSTATESofficial wrote:I work for Max Barry and no we are not.

Err, wat.
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Postby Immoren » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:44 am

Stormwind-City wrote:
NATIONSTATESofficial wrote:I work for Max Barry and no we are not.

Err, wat.


Seems legit and trustworthy source.
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Postby Benuty » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:45 am

Immoren wrote:
Stormwind-City wrote:Err, wat.


Seems legit and trustworthy source.

I met a man on the road who told me to invest in lizard egg stocks because lizards are becoming even more popular in the US.

It seemed legit :P.
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Postby YellowApple » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:45 am

Immoren wrote:
Stormwind-City wrote:Err, wat.


Seems legit and trustworthy source.


It's on the Internet so it must be true, right?

Benuty wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Seems legit and trustworthy source.

I met a man on the road who told me to invest in lizard egg stocks because lizards are becoming even more popular in the US.

It seemed legit :P.


Are you telling me my safe deposit box full of lizard eggs wasn't a sound investment strategy after all?
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Postby Immoren » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:46 am

Benuty wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Seems legit and trustworthy source.

I met a man on the road who told me to invest in lizard egg stocks because lizards are becoming even more popular in the US.

It seemed legit :P.


Men on the road are always reliable. *nods*

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Immoren wrote:
Seems legit and trustworthy source.


It's on the Internet so it must be true, right?


Yes.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby YellowApple » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:48 am

Immoren wrote:
YellowApple wrote:
It's on the Internet so it must be true, right?


Yes.
Everything on Internet, TV, Radio or newspaper must always be true.


Checkmate, atheists!

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Postby The Latin Commonwealth » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:50 am

It seems that the world and society as a whole is becoming less tolerant of religion.
I'm not saying you ( or anyone I don't know who is religious ) deserve it,but access to information makes more people know unfair situations driven by religion,from discrimination to homosexuals to stonings of women.

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Postby Lydenburg » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:06 pm

Corrian wrote:I don't think it is just a NationStates thing. I think the world in general is becoming less tolerant of religion.


Or at least the specific age and culture group most widely represented on NS.

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Postby Lydenburg » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:08 pm

Benuty wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Seems legit and trustworthy source.

I met a man on the road who told me to invest in lizard egg stocks because lizards are becoming even more popular in the US.

It seemed legit :P.


I met a Zimbabwean beggar on the road who told me that his cow was arrested for criticising Mugabe.

That one is becoming increasingly popular, but I believed him.

Ek bly in Australie nou, maar Afrika sal altyd in my hart wees. Maak nie saak wat gebeur nie, ek is trots om te kan sê ek is 'n kind van hierdie ingewikkelde soms wrede kontinent. Mis jou altyd my Suid-Afrika, hier met n seer hart al die pad van Melbourne af!


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Postby Immoren » Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:36 pm

Lydenburg wrote:
Benuty wrote:I met a man on the road who told me to invest in lizard egg stocks because lizards are becoming even more popular in the US.

It seemed legit :P.


I met a Zimbabwean beggar on the road who told me that his cow was arrested for criticising Mugabe.

That one is becoming increasingly popular, but I believed him.


I read "cow" as "crow" at first.
Propably would've been more stranger that way.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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The United Districts of Wanderers wrote:The reason for such toleration of posts is outlined in freedom of speech. People who do not understand why we believe in God tend to put him down. While I was able to find people who were just inquisitive and not total put-downs, too many of the comments are negative towards religion. This is due to: A) The Prosperity Gospel preachers who have everything wrong, B) The fact that Marxism and Liberalism have dominated most public campuses, C) The terrorists in the Middle East, and D) The ineffectiveness of the people following the religion. It has been a long time since I have seen someone able to stand up to atheists and defend their religion (last time was in God's Not Dead.). These issues need to be fixed, or else religion is in very serious trouble.

Before non-believers were in serious trouble. Now we say that religion is (Which it is still majority believed in, so it doesn't sound like it is in much trouble right now...). My opinion on the matter is times change, and if that is a good thing or not, eh, whatever. Not just because I'm an Atheist myself, I am curious to see what a world without so much religious influence would be like. Personally, I think it would be a better world, but I'm more just curious than anything. Just like I am curious about seeing the world stuck in a serious climate change cycle. I get curios about extreme changes.
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Postby Tekania » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:52 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
NATIONSTATESofficial wrote:I work for Max Barry and no we are not.

Adorable.

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Postby Pagan Hungary » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:38 pm

Felt like it's often been like that for the forums of NS and many places on the internet, nothing can be done about it and there's nothing necessarily wrong about it; just people with their own opinions.
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