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Is it legal to arrest the ministers?

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No
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The 502nd SS
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Postby The 502nd SS » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:38 am

Peluzzanien wrote:who cares.I dont want children later either.

So assuming you're a only child, you want your family to end with you?
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:39 am

The 502nd SS wrote:
Indira wrote:
Why? There is no logical reason for such a position.


man+man=nothing
man+woman= future generation
woman+woman= nothing

because only married couples can have sex and not condemn their souls to eternal damnation


Since married couples are not required to have kids this is pointless.
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Postby Sociobiology » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:39 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
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If they were allowed to, they would have incorporated as a third category (what I suggested the law should allow for) or incorporated with a different type of incorporation contract that allows for a public accommodation that retains certain fundamental property rights.

In this case though, I think they acted legally within the limits of the law (the limits irk me but... oh well).

They are a public accommodation that specializes in ''one man one woman marriages as defined by the Holy Bible'' and has incorporated with the purpose of providing the above.

That's what they were selling and the plaintiffs were asking for something they never set out to sell and never claimed to be able to sell.

That's how I would reconcile it.


I get it that you have no clue as to how the world works. I get it. I've seen it in your call to ban dogs, in your cry against suits and how oppressive they are and in your desire to prosecute gov't agents for obtaining information illegally. Really, I get it but honestly how hard it is for you to understand that what these business owners did is not ok?

Is it ok for me to own a McDonald's franchise and ban blacks or Asians from seeking the service my establishment provides? Which is food selling.

a mcdonalds is a public access shop, you can own a private club and deny service to black people. So as long as the church is not issuing marriage licences they can deny service. Private businesses have a protected right to be assholes.
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Postby Peluzzanien » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:39 am

still have my brother.And he wants children later.

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Postby Neutraligon » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:39 am

Sociobiology wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I get it that you have no clue as to how the world works. I get it. I've seen it in your call to ban dogs, in your cry against suits and how oppressive they are and in your desire to prosecute gov't agents for obtaining information illegally. Really, I get it but honestly how hard it is for you to understand that what these business owners did is not ok?

Is it ok for me to own a McDonald's franchise and ban blacks or Asians from seeking the service my establishment provides? Which is food selling.

a mcdonalds is a public access shop, you can own a private club and deny service to black people. So as long as the church is not issuing marriage licences they can deny service. Private businesses have a protected right to be assholes.


So here is the question, is the business in this case a public access shop?
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Postby The 502nd SS » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:40 am

Peluzzanien wrote:Kids are annoying.

Honestly I don't like most children but I feel I would be able to raise my children better than most parents these days(assuming I don't get killed serving)
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Postby Peluzzanien » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:41 am

but i dont like kids.Very Annoying they are.And people are not required to have children.

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Postby The 502nd SS » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:42 am

Peluzzanien wrote:but i dont like kids.Very Annoying they are.And people are not required to have children.

But if you're anything like me, then you would want them to continue on the family name.
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Postby Peluzzanien » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:42 am

how would you raise them. :eyebrow:

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Postby Peluzzanien » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:43 am

well.I dont.

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Postby England-Ireland » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:45 am

The 502nd SS wrote:
Peluzzanien wrote:Kids are annoying.

Honestly I don't like most children but I feel I would be able to raise my children better than most parents these days(assuming I don't get killed serving)

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Postby Peluzzanien » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:45 am

children are annoying.And when i am the last of my family so be it.

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Postby Ashmoria » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:45 am

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:Source:

1. http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8184357
2. http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/city-threatens-to-arrest-ministers-who-refuse-to-perform-same-sex-weddings.html

Two Christian ministers who own an Idaho wedding chapel were told they had to either perform same-sex weddings or face jail time and up to $1,000 in daily fines, according to a lawsuit filed Friday in federal court.

Alliance Defending Freedom is representing Donald and Evelyn Knapp, two ordained ministers who own the Hitching Post Wedding Chapel in Coeur d’Alene.

“Right now they are at risk of being prosecuted,” attorney Jeremy Tedesco told me. “The threat of enforcement is more than just credible.”

The wedding chapel is registered as a “religious corporation” limited to performing “one-man-one-woman marriages as defined by the Holy Bible.”


What say you?


I say that no one gets arrested for violating a non-criminal law. they get sued.
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Postby Peluzzanien » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:46 am

but again my brother.

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Postby Peluzzanien » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:46 am

and my two sisters.

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Postby The 502nd SS » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:49 am

England-Ireland wrote:
The 502nd SS wrote:Honestly I don't like most children but I feel I would be able to raise my children better than most parents these days(assuming I don't get killed serving)

I'm a future U.S. marine I was raised on traditional values I will not live on the government. teat my kids will be raised on traditional values

Future US Army, I wasn't raised like that but I adopted them and will raise my children the same way
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Postby England-Ireland » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:50 am

The 502nd SS wrote:
England-Ireland wrote:I'm a future U.S. marine I was raised on traditional values I will not live on the government. teat my kids will be raised on traditional values

Future US Army, I wasn't raised like that but I adopted them and will raise my children the same way

I think Obama needs to be impeached we need a president like Reagan one that actually is a real man
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So according to you, God is immoral? Because that is the only logical conclusion to this statement. After all, there is nothing wrong with homosexual behaviour, it is the way they are born after all. Also, married couples are not there to have children or even required to, otherwise you would automatically dissolve marriage between two individuals who are incapable of reproducing.

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Postby Indira » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:54 am

England-Ireland wrote:
The 502nd SS wrote:Future US Army, I wasn't raised like that but I adopted them and will raise my children the same way

I think Obama needs to be impeached we need a president like Reagan one that actually is a real man


You can tell who a 'real man' is by the fact they never use the term 'real man'

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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:59 am

The 502nd SS wrote:
Indira wrote:
Why? There is no logical reason for such a position.


man+man=nothing
man+woman= future generation
woman+woman= nothing

because only married couples can have sex and not condemn their souls to eternal damnation

Now if souls were a real thing, there might be a reason to care about that...
Since they aren't, well...
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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:00 am

Sociobiology wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I get it that you have no clue as to how the world works. I get it. I've seen it in your call to ban dogs, in your cry against suits and how oppressive they are and in your desire to prosecute gov't agents for obtaining information illegally. Really, I get it but honestly how hard it is for you to understand that what these business owners did is not ok?

Is it ok for me to own a McDonald's franchise and ban blacks or Asians from seeking the service my establishment provides? Which is food selling.

a mcdonalds is a public access shop, you can own a private club and deny service to black people. So as long as the church is not issuing marriage licences they can deny service. Private businesses have a protected right to be assholes.

The wedding chapel this story is about is a public accommodation.
Don't take life so serious... It isn't permanent...
Freedom from religion is an integral part of Freedom of religion
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Grave_n_Idle: Maybe that's why the bible is so anti-other-gods, the other gods do exist, but they diss on Jehovah all the time for his shitty work.
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Ostro: I think women need to be trained
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Postby Peluzzanien » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:04 am

Religion is not good :mad:

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Postby England-Ireland » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:08 am

Peluzzanien wrote:Religion is not good :mad:

same sex marriage is not good it should be outlawed and gay men are not real men they are jokes
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Postby Peluzzanien » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:08 am

you are a joke :evil:

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Postby England-Ireland » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:09 am

Peluzzanien wrote:you are a joke :evil:

whatever liberals are nothing they want to give money away to people who don't deserve it
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