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Which party would you vote for?

Moderate Party
26
12%
Peoples Liberal Party
9
4%
Centre Party
7
3%
Christian Democrats
16
7%
Social Democrats
50
23%
Green Party
13
6%
Left Party
29
14%
Sweden Democrats
58
27%
Feminist Initiative
6
3%
 
Total votes : 214

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Baltenstein
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Postby Baltenstein » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:08 am

I'd like to vote a solid centre-left party that cares about social justice, human rights and international cooperation but without the overboard PC Swedes are infamous for.

I am in favor of multiculturalism but I don't consider Swedish culture "barbaric" (quote Fredrik Reinfeldt, who I have grown to find disgusting for this quote alone) nor do I think that it's an European society's job to adapt itself to the values of the immigrants' countries of origin.

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Vistulange
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Postby Vistulange » Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:41 am

Baltenstein wrote:I'd like to vote a solid centre-left party that cares about social justice, human rights and international cooperation but without the overboard PC Swedes are infamous for.

I am in favor of multiculturalism but I don't consider Swedish culture "barbaric" (quote Fredrik Reinfeldt, who I have grown to find disgusting for this quote alone) nor do I think that it's an European society's job to adapt itself to the values of the immigrants' countries of origin.

Where do I sign up?


Just out of curiosity, do you think that non-European societies should adapt to any European immigrants' values?

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Baltenstein
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Postby Baltenstein » Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:09 am

Vistulange wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:I'd like to vote a solid centre-left party that cares about social justice, human rights and international cooperation but without the overboard PC Swedes are infamous for.

I am in favor of multiculturalism but I don't consider Swedish culture "barbaric" (quote Fredrik Reinfeldt, who I have grown to find disgusting for this quote alone) nor do I think that it's an European society's job to adapt itself to the values of the immigrants' countries of origin.

Where do I sign up?


Just out of curiosity, do you think that non-European societies should adapt to any European immigrants' values?


No. When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
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O'er the hills and o'er the main.
Through Flanders, Portugal and Spain.
King George commands and we obey.
Over the hills and far away.


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The Scientific States
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:37 am

Anglo-California wrote:
District XIV wrote:Are you sure? A far-right, ultranationalist, racist party?


Am I supposed to be phased or something by your scare tactics? :eyebrow:

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It's not a scare tactic, the Swedish Democrats are openly xenophobic, fascist, racist, and ultra nationalistic.
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Postby Slavonian kingdom » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:53 am

The Scientific States wrote:
Anglo-California wrote:
Am I supposed to be phased or something by your scare tactics? :eyebrow:

ZOMG EBUL RACISTS!


It's not a scare tactic, the Swedish Democrats are openly xenophobic, fascist, racist, and ultra nationalistic.

I would still wait for a relevant source thab listeb ti NSG. The samw was told for UKIP for years now.

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The Holy Therns
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Postby The Holy Therns » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:53 am

Slavonian kingdom wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
It's not a scare tactic, the Swedish Democrats are openly xenophobic, fascist, racist, and ultra nationalistic.

I would still wait for a relevant source thab listeb ti NSG. The samw was told for UKIP for years now.


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Arkolon
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Postby Arkolon » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:53 am

Folkpartiet Liberalerna, because of their market liberalism.
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The Scientific States
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:05 am

Slavonian kingdom wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
It's not a scare tactic, the Swedish Democrats are openly xenophobic, fascist, racist, and ultra nationalistic.

I would still wait for a relevant source thab listeb ti NSG. The samw was told for UKIP for years now.


The same was said about the UKIP because its mostly true.
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New Socialist South Africa
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Postby New Socialist South Africa » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:10 am

The government of New Socialist South Africa supports the Left Party.
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The Scientific States
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:13 am

New Socialist South Africa wrote:The government of New Socialist South Africa supports the Left Party.


This is OOC.
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New Socialist South Africa
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New York Times Democracy

Postby New Socialist South Africa » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:26 am

The Scientific States wrote:
New Socialist South Africa wrote:The government of New Socialist South Africa supports the Left Party.


This is OOC.


Oh ya, my bad. I would support the Left Party if I lived in Sweden.
"I find that offensive" is never a sound counter argument.
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Calimera II
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Calimera II » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:27 am

Sweden is doing well with this right wing government. No need to change course dramatically.

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MERIZoC
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby MERIZoC » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:29 am

Green Party.

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The Scientific States
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:41 am

Calimera II wrote:Sweden is doing well with this right wing government. No need to change course dramatically.


They're not doing great. Inequality is soaring in Sweden, and their economy isn't doing well.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-3 ... arter.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22650267

The Moderate Government isn't necessarily bad, and I would be content if they won the next election, but the Social Democrats could do better.
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The Scientific States
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:42 am

Merizoc wrote:Green Party.


Why, if I may ask?
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Meridiani Planum
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Postby Meridiani Planum » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:20 am

The Scientific States wrote:Inequality is soaring in Sweden


Compared to what?
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Postby Meridiani Planum » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:21 am

Calimera II wrote:Sweden is doing well with this right wing government. No need to change course dramatically.


Agreed.
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Postby Meridiani Planum » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:23 am

Arkolon wrote:Folkpartiet Liberalerna, because of their market liberalism.


They are more social liberals than market liberals. They are Social Democrats lite.
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Memell
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Postby Memell » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:29 am

The Sweden Democrats.
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Arkolon
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Postby Arkolon » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:36 am

Meridiani Planum wrote:
Arkolon wrote:Folkpartiet Liberalerna, because of their market liberalism.


They are more social liberals than market liberals. They are Social Democrats lite.

That's good, isn't it?
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Cape Aeri
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Postby Cape Aeri » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:38 am

Social Democrats for the win!
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Shrillland » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:51 am

I would vote for the Social Democrats myself.
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Justin States
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Postby Justin States » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:05 am

Well i live in Sweden and i voted for Swedish Democracy
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Postby Meridiani Planum » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:48 am

Arkolon wrote:
Meridiani Planum wrote:
They are more social liberals than market liberals. They are Social Democrats lite.

That's good, isn't it?


Relative to the Social Democrats it is good, in the sense that diet Cola might be better than regular Cola if you are concerned about sugar intake. But I would prefer to avoid softdrinks.
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Postby Bandwagon » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:07 am

Justin States wrote:Well i live in Sweden and i voted for Swedish Democracy

The far-right party or which party?
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