Where is justice and freedom?

[OMGeverynameistaken]

This topic is slandering the good name of mercantilism! I demand an apology.

[Lalaki]

So you admit that America's foundations are not in line with Christianity?

The foundations have been destroyed, they were originally moral and religious, and have been cracking and cracking for about 70 years. It's only a matter of time before we face God's judgment, i.e., the Yellowstone Supervolcano. That should stop our arrogance and God hating.

Our national motto, "Under God" in our Pledge, and other public religious symbols were only adopted because of the Cold War. Our founding fathers, while many were Christians, were actually secular in politics. In fact, many were outright deists.

[Wisconsin9]

We heathens don't particularly care as long as you do it away from us.

Actually we can share our opinion with you as much as we want.

I didn't say that you have to do it away from us, I just said that we would very much appreciate it.

If you ask me, one of the commandments should've been, "Thou shalt leave thy neighbor the fuck alone."

[The Klishi Islands]

No, stay! I'm just putting in the popcorn *closes microwave*

....butter?

It's not popcorn without butter

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

It says that CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW. It doesn't say anything about states or local communities choosing a particular religion to adhere to. Read the text, it says CONGRESS, and congress alone. It prevents the establishment of a state church...and that is it. It does not prohibit the church from having a say in how the state is run. My state is free to establish Christianity as its official religion and even enforce Christian laws.

Separation of church and state applies to every state in the US last I checked.

Separation of church and state is from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to a concerned group of Baptists who thought that one denomination of Christianity would be chosen as the state religion. Jefferson assured them that no state church would be formed.

Separation of church and state has been illegally enforced on sovereign states of this union for over a hundred years by the left, not content with having no religion of their own, instead, enforcing this on everyone else.

[Murkwood]

Despite what Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren might want, the US is still a Capitalist nation.

[Conserative Morality]

The foundations have been destroyed, they were originally moral and religious, and have been cracking and cracking for about 70 years. It's only a matter of time before we face God's judgment, i.e., the Yellowstone Supervolcano. That should stop our arrogance and God hating.

Treaty of Tripoli was 1797. Bit longer than 70 years ago.

Gotta say, the Yellowstone Supervolcano bit has me thinking Poe, though.

[Xenoph]

No. But everyone seems like they are just waiting for the opportunity to report me and get me off of NationStates. What I am saying is true. It is an appeal to consider a different viewpoint for once.

Not when your idea of truth is wrong and misconceived many of your facts have been wrong so far and proven with facts by others....

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Actually we can share our opinion with you as much as we want.

I didn't say that you have to do it away from us, I just said that we would very much appreciate it.

If you ask me, one of the commandments should've been, "Thou shalt leave thy neighbor the fuck alone."

We can and will, and if we are ignored continuously, we will leave it to God to decide.

[Fralinia]

Even on this forum and on this thread there will be people who claim to be tolerant and yet are in fact intolerant and obsessed with stopping the spread of other opinions. Watch out for these people and take note of them.

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that anyone who isn't OP's opinion shadow clone falls into this category.

[The Isles of New Babylon]

I was stating facts. Notice I simply used the strike to show what was factually incorrect with what you were saying, I didn't delete it so no suppression.

I don't believe the 1st amendment of the US constitution enshrines "conservative christian values"

It says that CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW. It doesn't say anything about states or local communities choosing a particular religion to adhere to. Read the text, it says CONGRESS, and congress alone. It prevents the establishment of a state church...and that is it. It does not prohibit the church from having a say in how the state is run. My state is free to establish Christianity as its official religion and even enforce Christian laws.

Making exclusively Christian laws would infringe on the free excercise of religious freedom though. Anyway due to the ruling in Everson V. Board of education (1947) the 1st amendment also applies to states. Justice Hugo Black wrote

The "establishment of religion" clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion to another ... in the words of Jefferson, the [First Amendment] clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect 'a wall of separation between church and State' ... That wall must be kept high and impregnable. We could not approve the slightest breach.

[Lalaki]

Separation of church and state applies to every state in the US last I checked.

Separation of church and state is from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to a concerned group of Baptists who thought that one denomination of Christianity would be chosen as the state religion. Jefferson assured them that no state church would be formed.

Separation of church and state has been illegally enforced on sovereign states of this union for over a hundred years by the left, not content with having no religion of their own, instead, enforcing this on everyone else.

Again, look up the 14th amendment and incorporation post-Civil War.

[Wisconsin9]

So you admit that America's foundations are not in line with Christianity?

The foundations have been destroyed, they were originally moral and religious, and have been cracking and cracking for about 70 years. It's only a matter of time before we face God's judgment, i.e., the Yellowstone Supervolcano. That should stop our arrogance and God hating.

Nah. I'll still be an arrogant God hater. But I've always been a bit stubborn, so w/ever.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

The foundations have been destroyed, they were originally moral and religious, and have been cracking and cracking for about 70 years. It's only a matter of time before we face God's judgment, i.e., the Yellowstone Supervolcano. That should stop our arrogance and God hating.

Our national motto, "Under God" in our Pledge, and other public religious symbols were only adopted because of the Cold War. Our founding fathers, while many were Christians, were actually secular in politics. In fact, many were outright deists.

A bunch of lies right there, spoonfed by the education system and the leftist media (where they mass produce press releases of the Democratic National Committee)

[Lalaki]

New Israel and Pan-America, is that you?

[Wisconsin9]

I didn't say that you have to do it away from us, I just said that we would very much appreciate it.

If you ask me, one of the commandments should've been, "Thou shalt leave thy neighbor the fuck alone."

We can and will, and if we are ignored continuously, we will leave it to God to decide.

Could you maybe please skip step one and just let God do his thing?

[The Klishi Islands]

Even on this forum and on this thread there will be people who claim to be tolerant and yet are in fact intolerant and obsessed with stopping the spread of other opinions. Watch out for these people and take note of them.

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that anyone who isn't OP's opinion shadow clone falls into this category.

*gasps* How'd you know?!?!

[Saint Kitten]

Our national motto, "Under God" in our Pledge, and other public religious symbols were only adopted because of the Cold War. Our founding fathers, while many were Christians, were actually secular in politics. In fact, many were outright deists.

A bunch of lies right there, spoonfed by the education system and the leftist media (where they mass produce press releases of the Democratic National Committee)

Prove otherwise

[The Isles of New Babylon]

Separation of church and state applies to every state in the US last I checked.

Separation of church and state is from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to a concerned group of Baptists who thought that one denomination of Christianity would be chosen as the state religion. Jefferson assured them that no state church would be formed.

Separation of church and state has been illegally enforced on sovereign states of this union for over a hundred years by the left, not content with having no religion of their own, instead, enforcing this on everyone else.

I've just proved you wrong see my previous post.

[Communal Ecotopia]

You didn't see the passages pushing for the stoning of homosexuals, adulterers, and bankers practicing usury.

Way to go. You don't have a clue that all of those passages are from the Old Testament, and thus no longer apply.

Try Romans 1:26-27.

[Lalaki]

Our national motto, "Under God" in our Pledge, and other public religious symbols were only adopted because of the Cold War. Our founding fathers, while many were Christians, were actually secular in politics. In fact, many were outright deists.

A bunch of lies right there, spoonfed by the education system and the leftist media (where they mass produce press releases of the Democratic National Committee)

http://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm
Also look up the US flag code, and various laws passed during the Eisenhower years.

[Fralinia]

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that anyone who isn't OP's opinion shadow clone falls into this category.

*gasps* How'd you know?!?!

Well, I forced myself to read the entire OP, for starters.

[Wisconsin9]

*gasps* How'd you know?!?!

Well, I forced myself to read the entire OP, for starters.

I'm so sorry.

[Keventle]

*gasps* How'd you know?!?!

Well, I forced myself to read the entire OP, for starters.

Congrats.

[Lalaki]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_we_trust

"In God we trust" was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956 as an alternative or replacement to the unofficial motto of E pluribus unum, which was adopted when the Great Seal of the United States was created and adopted in 1782.[1][2]