Russia threatens nuclear war against all NATO members

[The Two Jerseys]

That's really the only play Russia's got, NATO is so much more conventionally powerful than them so they have to rely on having the largest nuke stockpile on earth

That's a pretty big ace up their sleeve.

But about as effective a defense weapon as a suicide bomb vest.

[Kelmet]

That's a pretty big ace up their sleeve.

NATO has nukes too, it's not an ace at all.

Nobody wins a nuke fight

[Imperializt Russia]

NATO has nukes too, it's not an ace at all.

Nobody wins a nuke fight

Refer to my post on the previous page.

Strategic nuclear exchange is not an immediate threat from any likely escalation in the war in east Ukraine.

[Memell]

Replace the word Russia with the KKK and the word nuked with lynched. Now do you get it?

That's actually a pretty effective example.

It's not effective at all, because the KKK are a bunch of physical persons which are subject to law. Russia as a State has the right to protect its interests just like any other in the world.

I see let Putin do whatever he wants with that God-forsaken land that is Ukraine. The European economy has already suffered billions of damages because of the sanctions proposed by the US (they just want to redirect the european capitals towards the US themselves) and subscribed by those idiots that are the current political leaders of the EU, oblivious to the consequences.

[Burleson]

NATO has nukes too, it's not an ace at all.

Nobody wins a nuke fight

Except America, we're the only country with the balls to use one.

[Rebellious Fishermen]

That's actually a pretty effective example.

It's not effective at all, because the KKK are a bunch of physical persons which are subject to law. Russia as a State has the right to protect its interests just like any other in the world.

I see let Putin do whatever he wants with that God-forsaken land that is Ukraine. The European economy has already suffered billions of damages because of the sanctions proposed by the US (they just want to redirect the european capitals towards the US themselves) and subscribed by those idiots that are the current political leaders of the EU, oblivious to the consequences.

I heard appeasement went well with Germany in the '30s.

[Burleson]

That's actually a pretty effective example.

It's not effective at all, because the KKK are a bunch of physical persons which are subject to law. Russia as a State has the right to protect its interests just like any other in the world.

I see let Putin do whatever he wants with that God-forsaken land that is Ukraine. The European economy has already suffered billions of damages because of the sanctions proposed by the US (they just want to redirect the european capitals towards the US themselves) and subscribed by those idiots that are the current political leaders of the EU, oblivious to the consequences.

Putin does not have the right to protect it's "interests" if those interests violate international law and involve oppressing the Ukrainian people.

[The Two Jerseys]

That's actually a pretty effective example.

It's not effective at all, because the KKK are a bunch of physical persons which are subject to law. Russia as a State has the right to protect its interests just like any other in the world.

I see let Putin do whatever he wants with that God-forsaken land that is Ukraine. The European economy has already suffered billions of damages because of the sanctions proposed by the US (they just want to redirect the european capitals towards the US themselves) and subscribed by those idiots that are the current political leaders of the EU, oblivious to the consequences.

Countries are also subject to law, such as "don't violate another country's territorial sovereignty".

[Burleson]

It's not effective at all, because the KKK are a bunch of physical persons which are subject to law. Russia as a State has the right to protect its interests just like any other in the world.

I see let Putin do whatever he wants with that God-forsaken land that is Ukraine. The European economy has already suffered billions of damages because of the sanctions proposed by the US (they just want to redirect the european capitals towards the US themselves) and subscribed by those idiots that are the current political leaders of the EU, oblivious to the consequences.

I heard appeasement went well with Germany in the '30s.

[Neoconstantius]

And whilst they throw words at each other, Ukraine is still being shelled. Pro-Kremlin youth camps also sound like an echo of a rather dark part of human history.

Yeah, Ukrainian government shells raining down on cities in Ukraine.

Lots of political organizations, particularly in Europe, have youth components.

[Imperializt Russia]

Nobody wins a nuke fight

Except America, we're the only country with the balls to use one.

Or this new country called Russia.

[Conserative Morality]

Are you sure we haven't gave up that mentality then why are there U.S. Bases all around Russia and China they been surrounding them with bases during and after the Cold War the West has been to aggressive they have destabilize the Middle East and other parts of the world.

Pretty sure that US overseas expansion has been limited in the post-USSR era. Mind naming a few of these US bases supposedly surrounding Russia and China? You think we give a shit about China? Fuck no. We're too economically intertwined to care to start military dick-waving contests. Russian apologists are just upset that these former SSRs and members of the Warsaw Pact now view their former occupiers with no small amount of suspicion.

[Lyttenburg]

Just more paranoid sensationalist bullshit!

How is

"Thank God, I think no one is thinking of unleashing a large-scale conflict with Russia. I want to remind you that Russia is one of the leading nuclear powers."

equal to

Russia threatens nuclear war against all NATO members

huh?

What is more important (and what was glossed over by the staunch pro-Ukrainian patriots) was this:

However, while Ukraine's prime minister, Arseny Yatseniuk said on Friday that Ukraine would now seek to join Nato, sources within the organisation said that it would be unlikely happen. Any such move would oblige Nato to come to Ukraine's immediate defence against Russia.

A Nato source said: "Ukraine is not an ally. Nato may respect Ukraine's decision if it seeks membership but the Alliance is not going to accelerate in that direction."

[The New Lowlands]

He made this remark to a youth camp.

I don't think it was supposed to be a threat.

[Burleson]

Except America, we're the only country with the balls to use one.

Or this new country called Russia.

They haven't used one yet.

[Neoconstantius]

People these days.....

Listen you sheep, if Ukraine joins NATO or the EU they would be putting missles on Russia doorstep look at NATO missles they are in Turkey, Francde Germany and some former Soviet nations, I would the US react if they put missiles in Cuba, or Mexico they'll be outrage it'll be a missle crisis again that happened in the early 60s.

We haven't been interested in intimidating Russia with missiles since Ronnie Ray-gun. Give up the Cold War mentality.

Really? NATO expansion in Eastern Europe and forward missile deployments aren't meant to contain and intimidate Russia? I think both sides need to evaluate what year it is, cuz it's not 1960.

[Imperializt Russia]

Are you sure we haven't gave up that mentality then why are there U.S. Bases all around Russia and China they been surrounding them with bases during and after the Cold War the West has been to aggressive they have destabilize the Middle East and other parts of the world.

Pretty sure that US overseas expansion has been limited in the post-USSR era. Mind naming a few of these US bases supposedly surrounding Russia and China? You think we give a shit about China? Fuck no. We're too economically intertwined to care to start military dick-waving contests. Russian apologists are just upset that these former SSRs and members of the Warsaw Pact now view their former occupiers with no small amount of suspicion.

American F-15s of the 555th fighter wing, a nuclear-capable unit responsible for the Italian stockpile of B-61 nuclear bombs, were deployed to Polish bases in March of this year in response to the Crimea tensions.

[Padnak]

God I miss the cold war

everything was so much more interesting, now its just sad

[Celesburg]

Nobody wins a nuke fight

Except America, we're the only country with the balls to use one.

That doesn't count because Japan didn't have a nuke.

[Imperializt Russia]

Or this new country called Russia.

They haven't used one yet.

The US did not fight a "nuclear war" with Japan.
Largely because Japan had no way of reciprocating a "nuclear war".

The US dropped two nuclear weapons on Japanese cities, simulating the effects of a very large incendiary bombing raid with individual munitions.
That is all.

[The Two Jerseys]

We haven't been interested in intimidating Russia with missiles since Ronnie Ray-gun. Give up the Cold War mentality.

Really? NATO expansion in Eastern Europe and forward missile deployments aren't meant to contain and intimidate Russia? I think both sides need to evaluate what year it is, cuz it's not 1960.

Yes, Russia needs to learn that it's not 1960 and it doesn't own Eastern Europe anymore.

[Conserative Morality]

Just more paranoid sensationalist bullshit!

How is

"Thank God, I think no one is thinking of unleashing a large-scale conflict with Russia. I want to remind you that Russia is one of the leading nuclear powers."

equal to

Russia threatens nuclear war against all NATO members

?

The title is certainly sensationalist, but Putin mentioning Russia's nuclear arsenal like that isn't an innocent comment. It'd be like Obama (Or, for a more likely candidate, Bush) talking about how 'thankful' he is that Iran hasn't went head-to-head with 'one of the world's foremost nuclear powers'. The world would be in an uproar over a comment like that. Shit, you'd probably be hard-pressed to find Republicans who'd support a comment like that. It's nuclear dick-waving, and it's the sort of shit that was supposed to stop when everyone agreed that MAD was absolutely mad.

[Celesburg]

Or this new country called Russia.

They haven't used one yet.

Nuke tests ?

[Memell]

It's not effective at all, because the KKK are a bunch of physical persons which are subject to law. Russia as a State has the right to protect its interests just like any other in the world.

I see let Putin do whatever he wants with that God-forsaken land that is Ukraine. The European economy has already suffered billions of damages because of the sanctions proposed by the US (they just want to redirect the european capitals towards the US themselves) and subscribed by those idiots that are the current political leaders of the EU, oblivious to the consequences.

Countries are also subject to law, such as "don't violate another country's territorial sovereignty".

It's not effective at all, because the KKK are a bunch of physical persons which are subject to law. Russia as a State has the right to protect its interests just like any other in the world.

I see let Putin do whatever he wants with that God-forsaken land that is Ukraine. The European economy has already suffered billions of damages because of the sanctions proposed by the US (they just want to redirect the european capitals towards the US themselves) and subscribed by those idiots that are the current political leaders of the EU, oblivious to the consequences.

Putin does not have the right to protect it's "interests" if those interests violate international law and involve oppressing the Ukrainian people.

Tell me about the NSA-gate, Gladio and other stay-behinds, Pinochet and all his friends in Latin-America. Treaties and "International laws" are just chimeras, pieces of papers meant to to shut the hypocritical and bigoted public eye.

And why should he not protect Russia's interests? All the major powers of the world do it, blatantly violating any kinf of international law all the time.

[PC World News]

Nobody wins a nuke fight

Except America, we're the only country with the balls to use one.

The only reason we had the "balls" to use a nuclear weapon is because we knew no one else had one.

And another thing, if you are serious about correlating bravery, or having "balls", with dropping a nuclear weapon, then maybe you should find some friends among the Vladimir Putin Fan Club, because they are the only people who actually agree with you.