RNC Condemns AP U.S. History Exam

[The New Sea Territory]

I actually have AP US History in high school. What they are saying is very true. My teacher continues to insult the colonists and has said stuff like 'the colonists used their women as property'. It has been quite revisionist and I agree that the course exam -- and the course itself -- deserve condemnation.

Understanding American history myself, I can tell how biased and outrageous the class is.

It's actually the other way around. Your history is romanticized, biased, outrageous and inaccurate.

The colonists DID treat women like property, like most pre-1900 societies. They also committed genocides, perpetuated slavery and carried out acts of terrorism during their revolution.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

I actually have AP US History in high school. What they are saying is very true. My teacher continues to insult the colonists and has said stuff like 'the colonists used their women as property'. It has been quite revisionist and I agree that the course exam -- and the course itself -- deserve condemnation.

Understanding American history myself, I can tell how biased and outrageous the class is.

It's actually the other way around. Your history is romanticized, biased, outrageous and inaccurate.

The colonists DID treat women like property, like most pre-1900 societies. They also committed genocides, perpetuated slavery and carried out acts of terrorism during their revolution.

That's simply not true. That's just what the anti-American education system is indoctrinating the public with.
This is not how history has been taught for the last two hundred years. Only now has it changed. I have the AP class and it is extremely biased and in particular quite anti-Christian.

[The New Sea Territory]

White Privilege exists. Denying it is pretty similar to denying evolution, climate change, income inequality being a problem, etc. You are basically saying "LALALA I'm burying my head in the sand and denying factual evidence!"

Where's the factual evidence? I have seen rumor, lie, conjecture, gibberish and attempts to shut people up for questioning rumor, lie, conjecture and gibberish, but I have seen not one ounce of factual evidence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege
http://www.tolerance.org/article/racism ... -privilege
http://www.buzzfeed.com/michaelblackmon ... ilege-9hu9
http://www.thesociologicalcinema.com/vi ... -privilege
https://www.isr.umich.edu/home/diversit ... vilege.pdf

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

The colonists DID treat women like property, like most pre-1900 societies. They also committed genocides, perpetuated slavery and carried out acts of terrorism during their revolution.

And that simply isn't true. It is self-evident that society has been more civil and decent the further back in time that you go. People used to follow the Bible back then, and they followed Biblical principles of marriage as outlined particularly in Genesis and the gospel (a union of a man and a woman, one flesh, and equal).

[Lies and Ignorance]

You ever notice how people with sheltered worldviews tend to view challenging information as some sort of personal attack against themselves?

[Draica]

Everytime I come on these NSG threads I see the same thing: Liberals belitting conservatives/republicans and propping up those of liberal view.

I see absoloutely nothing wrong with what the RNC did. They wrote a strongly worded letter and sent something to a college because they disagreed with something, this is America, they can do that no matter how stupid it is. I can write a strongly worded letter to my Representative or the President(not that he would read it since he's so busy,)and it could be stupid as hell, but why is it your concern?

I also do not expect foreigners(which encompass a very large majority of NSG) to have a positive view of America, espescially when polled on this website, most foreigners on here HATE America.

As my ROTC teacher said, we are the best country on the face of the earth. If they had done this in Afghanistan they would've been shot and killed.

Thank God the RNC has the right to do this, and may God BLESS this country.

[Quintium]

The colonists DID treat women like property, like most pre-1900 societies. They also committed genocides, perpetuated slavery and carried out acts of terrorism during their revolution.

Of course they did - as did everyone at that time, and a majority of mankind at this very moment. The problem is that it has become the focus of education. The focus of history in secondary schools all across the western world, now, is on projecting modern-day progressive politics on society the way it was. It's moralist revisionism. Just yesterday, I read an article which was supposed to be serious which explained that the Cathar heresy disappeared because it became too misogynistic. I mean, if we're going to be like that, why not rename 'an hour of history class' to 'one hour self-hate'?

I wonder if they'll also scrap the Mongolian conquests and talk exclusively about the widespread trade in sex slaves, or mention that those glorious Muslim rulers in Spain demanded an annual tribute of Christian women to staff their harems in exchange for not exterminating or expelling the Christians, or mention that the Arabs have always been the dominant force in the global slave trade (including during the peak of the western slave trade) and that they now share that dubious honour with the West Africans.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Where's the factual evidence? I have seen rumor, lie, conjecture, gibberish and attempts to shut people up for questioning rumor, lie, conjecture and gibberish, but I have seen not one ounce of factual evidence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege
http://www.tolerance.org/article/racism ... -privilege
http://www.buzzfeed.com/michaelblackmon ... ilege-9hu9
http://www.thesociologicalcinema.com/vi ... -privilege
https://www.isr.umich.edu/home/diversit ... vilege.pdf

There's no such thing as white privilege. I'm sure we will learn all about the non-existent 'white privilege' in our AP 'History' class at school. Interestingly the teacher seems intent on skipping the American Revolution.

[The New Sea Territory]

It's actually the other way around. Your history is romanticized, biased, outrageous and inaccurate.

The colonists DID treat women like property, like most pre-1900 societies. They also committed genocides, perpetuated slavery and carried out acts of terrorism during their revolution.

That's simply not true. That's just what the anti-American education system is indoctrinating the public with.
This is not how history has been taught for the last two hundred years. Only now has it changed. I have the AP class and it is extremely biased and in particular quite anti-Christian.

The last two hundred years haven't had this radical bastion of knowledge called the Internet. Have you heard of it?

History has an anti-American bias. It's called reality. America has done some pretty bad things.

I also have the AP Class. At a Catholic school. It's anti-Christian because the reality is Christianity has caused so many wars and conflicts that it deserves the flak.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

There is no such thing as 'white privilege'. It's a catch-all term, a vague accusation that you can use in order to justify political measures that will weaken the social, cultural, political and economic strength of all members of the white race. 'White privilege' is to the progressive left what 'mental illness' was to the Soviet Union, or 'defeatist talk' to officers in the British Army, or 'subversive thoughts' to North Korea. It's a way of saying "I disagree with you, and while your reasoning might be sound and your conclusions reasonable, you'll be completely powerless if I utter this one magic phrase."

White Privilege exists. Denying it is pretty similar to denying evolution, climate change, income inequality being a problem, etc. You are basically saying "LALALA I'm burying my head in the sand and denying factual evidence!"

Stop with your fucking conspiracy theory about hurting the white race. WP is nothing more than stereotypes manifesting themselves socially and legally.

Reasoning? You are denying white privilege while simultaneously claiming to be reasonable. Hilarious.

I'm white, and frankly, looking at the people who are all twisted up about the "white race", they practically prove every single worst-case supposition about white privilege themselves. You don't have to go out and look for it - there it is, right there.

It sure does make racist people whine a lot.

See, there's another magic buzz word. "Racist."

it's not magic at all. It's entirely accurate in describing pretty much everything you post on the subject of race.

In South Korea, there are television shows detailing how white men are giving Korean women venereal diseases and impregnating them only to break off all contact when they say they're pregnant.

I'd like a citation for this.
Assuming that's true, that's terrible.

In Japan, all foreigners are generally despised.

Yup, Japan is pretty racist.

In Malaysia, the government still maintains racial laws in favour of the ethnic Malay and against the ethnic Chinese.

That sucks.

In Zimbabwe, whites generally cannot own land,

Zimbabwe has many, many problems, most of them rooted in the fact that they're ruled by an octogenarian psychopath.

and in South Africa they're murdered for it.

If you're talking about the guy I think you're talking about, I don't feel too bad about it.

In Palestine, selling land to ethnic Jews is punishable by death.

In Israel, being Palestinian is punishable by you being blown to shit by an F15-I.

In Libya, black migrants are being beaten up and occasionally even set on fire by militias.

It's bad.

In Morocco, the police arrest black migrants, detain them without trial or beat them so hard their bones are broken.

In France, the police arrest Arab migrants, detain them without trial, or beat them so hard their bones are broken.
It's hardly something specific to Morocco - or non-white countries, obviously.

In Myanmar, the Rohingya are subject of genocide, and in China the Tibetans and the Uyghurs are going the same way. Whenever there's a civil war in Africa or the Middle East, the refugees are raped, trafficked, prostituted, robbed and murdered on a massive scale by the inhabitants of the areas they flee to.

Is this going anywhere, or are you just trying to prove you can find the CNN homepage?

But I'm a "racist" for being against government measures intended to make whites poorer and non-whites richer

Damn those cripplingly non-specific and totally uncited policies! DAMN THEM!
CITING SOURCES IS FOR ETHNIC PEOPLE!

because some people think that'll bring peace and prosperity.

I have no idea how the litany of tragedies you elaborated on above relates to this last sentence.
Bad things happen in the world, true, as you've demonstrated. You are also a racist, true, as any person observing what you post can tell.
These are not mutually exclusive. You whining bloody murder about "weakening the white race" doesn't help you, because the only people who talk that way are either Neo-Nazis, Klan members, or Klan wannabes.
Yeah, you absolutely are racist. You may as well admit it at this point and save yourself some time, because believe me, arguing this point isn't going to go anywhere. it clearly doesn't bother you, so quit whining about how people are smart enough for you not to be able to lie to them.

[Quintium]

Where's the factual evidence? I have seen rumor, lie, conjecture, gibberish and attempts to shut people up for questioning rumor, lie, conjecture and gibberish, but I have seen not one ounce of factual evidence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege
http://www.tolerance.org/article/racism ... -privilege
http://www.buzzfeed.com/michaelblackmon ... ilege-9hu9
http://www.thesociologicalcinema.com/vi ... -privilege
https://www.isr.umich.edu/home/diversit ... vilege.pdf

None of those are factual evidence.

The first is a Wikipedia page with crippling neutrality issues as determined by Wikipedia's users. The second is on a website so biased that if you were a student at my university I'd throw your work at your face and expel you for gross academic fraud. It's descriptive, but so is David Icke's work on the Illuminati. The third is Buzzfeed, and I repeat what I said about the second. The fourth is yet more description of supposedly the same thing but no factual evidence. The fifth is from the exact same person mentioned in the fourth, and contains a personal opinion.

All things considered, I am not impressed.

[The New Sea Territory]

I also do not expect foreigners(which encompass a very large majority of NSG) to have a positive view of America, espescially when polled on this website, most foreigners on here HATE America.

You wonder why we hate America? Because America claims to have a moral high ground despite all it's terrible actions historically. Take your worship of ignorance and nationalism elsewhere. The Internet is not the place for your lack of historical knowledge.

There's no such thing as white privilege. I'm sure we will learn all about the non-existent 'white privilege' in our AP 'History' class at school. Interestingly the teacher seems intent on skipping the American Revolution.

Except the fact that there is. Denying it is denying reality, but I wouldn't put that past you. It's not like white people maliciously intend to oppress people. White Privilege is the manifestation of stereotypes in the legal system.

And that simply isn't true. It is self-evident that society has been more civil and decent the further back in time that you go. People used to follow the Bible back then, and they followed Biblical principles of marriage as outlined particularly in Genesis and the gospel (a union of a man and a woman, one flesh, and equal).

It is true. What isn't true is your patriotism and religion.

The Bible has advocated and justified for murder, rape, slavery and genocide. Also, homosexuality was not really that uncommon. Fuck Biblical Marriage.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

Everytime I come on these NSG threads I see the same thing: Liberals belitting conservatives/republicans and propping up those of liberal view.

Yeah, you guys really drop the ball on being right about stuff. My apologies, but this isn't kindergarten - we're not obligated to mollycoddle you.

I see absoloutely nothing wrong with what the RNC did. They wrote a strongly worded letter and sent something to a college because they disagreed with something, this is America, they can do that no matter how stupid it is. I can write a strongly worded letter to my Representative or the President(not that he would read it since he's so busy,)and it could be stupid as hell, but why is it your concern?
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You actually do have a point here. The RNC has broken no rules. It hasn't gone out of legal bounds at all.
However, because this is a free country (and because the RNC made this a political issue), we're well within our rights to register our disagreement as well.

I also do not expect foreigners(which encompass a very large majority of NSG) to have a positive view of America, espescially when polled on this website, most foreigners on here HATE America.

Whining about how mean foreigners are to you isn't going to help anything, is it?

As my ROTC teacher said, we are the best country on the face of the earth.

Your ROTC teacher really sounds like a deep thinker. Which makes sense - with a job like that, he's clearly going places.

If they had done this in Afghanistan they would've been shot and killed.

There's an unprovable assertion - the clear sign of a quality argument.

Thank God the RNC has the right to do this,

Hey, free speech rocks!
But that means you also have to put up with dissent.

and may God BLESS this country.

Yeah, Motorhead will probably tour the US next year, and seeing as how Lemmy is God, I agree 100%!

[Quintium]

I'd like a citation for this.
Assuming that's true, that's terrible.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=919852452099
But don't worry - the exact same sentiment is felt everywhere outside the comfortable Western European and North American hugbox.

You whining bloody murder about "weakening the white race" doesn't help you, because the only people who talk that way are either Neo-Nazis, Klan members, or Klan wannabes.

Then you've never been to Europe.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

*snip*

Well, everybody's suspicious of foreigners.
And as to the video, yeah, it's ridiculously biased. I've seen similar things on Fox News from a white perspective, screaming about how Latinos all want to terk er jerbs, how all Muslims desire the immediate imposition of a bizarre fringe interpretation of Sharia law on the US, and how all blacks want to steal our wallets and women. So you can't exactly claim racial innocence (hah) on that one.

Then you've never been to Europe.

I absolutely have, and frankly, all those people like Le Pen, the BNP and that little smirking blonde Dutch freak whose name I've thankfully forgotten strike me as aspiring stormtroopers too.

[Geilinor]

It's actually the other way around. Your history is romanticized, biased, outrageous and inaccurate.

The colonists DID treat women like property, like most pre-1900 societies. They also committed genocides, perpetuated slavery and carried out acts of terrorism during their revolution.

That's simply not true. That's just what the anti-American education system is indoctrinating the public with.
This is not how history has been taught for the last two hundred years. Only now has it changed. I have the AP class and it is extremely biased and in particular quite anti-Christian.

Most societies weren't sexist before the 20th century? Who's been teaching you this idiocy?

[The New Sea Territory]

That's simply not true. That's just what the anti-American education system is indoctrinating the public with.
This is not how history has been taught for the last two hundred years. Only now has it changed. I have the AP class and it is extremely biased and in particular quite anti-Christian.

Most societies weren't sexist before the 20th century? Who's been teaching you this idiocy?

"Jesus." He drank the Christian Conservative Patriot Koolaid.

[Republic of Coldwater]

Where's the factual evidence? I have seen rumor, lie, conjecture, gibberish and attempts to shut people up for questioning rumor, lie, conjecture and gibberish, but I have seen not one ounce of factual evidence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege
http://www.tolerance.org/article/racism ... -privilege
http://www.buzzfeed.com/michaelblackmon ... ilege-9hu9
http://www.thesociologicalcinema.com/vi ... -privilege
https://www.isr.umich.edu/home/diversit ... vilege.pdf

White Privilege, although something that was existent in the Jim Crow south is now nonexistent. Affirmative Action actually gives priority to the black and latinos students, while blacks and latinos have employment quotas, something that doesn't exist amongst white people. The whites also no longer the wealthiest: the East Asians now hold that title.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

That's simply not true. That's just what the anti-American education system is indoctrinating the public with.
This is not how history has been taught for the last two hundred years. Only now has it changed. I have the AP class and it is extremely biased and in particular quite anti-Christian.

The last two hundred years haven't had this radical bastion of knowledge called the Internet. Have you heard of it?

History has an anti-American bias. It's called reality. America has done some pretty bad things.

I also have the AP Class. At a Catholic school. It's anti-Christian because the reality is Christianity has caused so many wars and conflicts that it deserves the flak.

That's simply not true. Christianity is a peaceful religion but Christians will unite to defend Christendom when the time calls for it (as the Crusaders or Martin Luther did).

The anti-American bias is not historical. That's your opinion. Let's be real, there are a lot of sensitive people out there, so they have revisionist history to change it all. Whenever we try to discuss America's accomplishments and awesome feats, there's always a select few who resort to myths like 'mistreatment of natives' or 'persecution of blacks' -- neither of these things really happened, at least not on the level that the revisionists claim.

In particular my class is hostile towards the Puritans and cannot stop talking about the Salem Witch trials. They forget that they don't know for sure what completely happened as there are only personal accounts written in journals, but little legal evidence. This is one example of anti-American intolerance, trying to get students to feel ashamed to live in America, or be white, or be Christian or conservative.

[Geilinor]

The last two hundred years haven't had this radical bastion of knowledge called the Internet. Have you heard of it?

History has an anti-American bias. It's called reality. America has done some pretty bad things.

I also have the AP Class. At a Catholic school. It's anti-Christian because the reality is Christianity has caused so many wars and conflicts that it deserves the flak.

That's simply not true. Christianity is a peaceful religion but Christians will unite to defend Christendom when the time calls for it (as the Crusaders or Martin Luther did).

The anti-American bias is not historical. That's your opinion. Let's be real, there are a lot of sensitive people out there, so they have revisionist history to change it all. Whenever we try to discuss America's accomplishments and awesome feats, there's always a select few who resort to myths like 'mistreatment of natives' or 'persecution of blacks' -- neither of these things really happened, at least not on the level that the revisionists claim.

Slavery never happened? The Trail of Tears never happened?

[The Tiger Kingdom]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege
http://www.tolerance.org/article/racism ... -privilege
http://www.buzzfeed.com/michaelblackmon ... ilege-9hu9
http://www.thesociologicalcinema.com/vi ... -privilege
https://www.isr.umich.edu/home/diversit ... vilege.pdf

White Privilege, although something that was existent in the Jim Crow south is now nonexistent.

So do the bodies of white kids get left in the street for hours after they've been killed in suspicious circumstances by white police officers? Do white presidents have to constantly deal with an unending barrage of explicitly racist drivel impugning their intelligence, integrity, and background? Do white people constantly chafe under implicitly racist socioeconomic circumstances with regard to banking and housing?
Is it considered legal (or at least, inherently justifiable) to for the police to freely murder white kids, as it apparently is for the police to kill non-white kids?
Or is it just that the old stranglehold is still there, just not using so many public ethnic slurs this time around?

Affirmative Action actually gives priority to the black and latinos students, while blacks and latinos have employment quotas, something that doesn't exist amongst white people.

Clearly we need such a system, given the inherent bias of the system to leave brown people in the dirt and then blame them for it.

The whites also no longer the wealthiest: the East Asians now hold that title.

I don't have any idea what this means. Wealthy per capita? Wealthy in terms of real proportions? In what country?

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Most societies weren't sexist before the 20th century? Who's been teaching you this idiocy?

"Jesus." He drank the Christian Conservative Patriot Koolaid.

Conservative Christian patriots, as you call them, are all about Jesus and believe America to be a Christian state. I agree with them because I am one of them. I think America is extremely important and exceptional, almost the greatest country in the world (except for Israel, God's special nation).

Conservatives don't impose sugar and food regulations on children in schools (a practical modern day tea tax), but many liberals do. We probably advocate koolaid. All children ought to have a daily ration of koolaid and sugar and candy, because they're kids and they deserve it, along with a good southern meal each evening, a mother and father at home, a decent church and local school, and a real, pro-America, pro-Israel, pro-life, pro-Christ, pro-Bible education! That's what we need in those darned AP classes, doggone!

When I have the class tomorrow, I'll be sure to mention what I wrote in the paragraph above -- that'll get the crowds riled up!

[Geilinor]

"Jesus." He drank the Christian Conservative Patriot Koolaid.

Conservative Christian patriots, as you call them, are all about Jesus and believe America to be a Christian state.

"Believing" America to be a Christian state does not make it so.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

White Privilege, although something that was existent in the Jim Crow south is now nonexistent.

So do the bodies of white kids get left in the street for hours after they've been killed in suspicious circumstances by white police officers? Do white presidents have to constantly deal with an unending barrage of explicitly racist drivel impugning their intelligence, integrity, and background? Do white people constantly chafe under implicitly racist socioeconomic circumstances with regard to banking and housing?
Is it considered legal (or at least, inherently justifiable) to for the police to freely murder white kids, as it apparently is for the police to kill non-white kids?
Or is it just that the old stranglehold is still there, just not using so many public ethnic slurs this time around?

Affirmative Action actually gives priority to the black and latinos students, while blacks and latinos have employment quotas, something that doesn't exist amongst white people.

Clearly we need such a system, given the inherent bias of the system to leave brown people in the dirt and then blame them for it.

The whites also no longer the wealthiest: the East Asians now hold that title.

I don't have any idea what this means. Wealthy per capita? Wealthy in terms of real proportions? In what country?

Those are just generalizations, quit being racist toward white people. It exists, you know. Racism against whites. It's all part of the modern day secularist anti-American worldview. White people are people too.

[Koopaville]

The part of me that's good with trivia supports this new idea, because hey, simpler and easier facts for me to memorize. Of course, the educated part of me laughed at these clowns, even though I'm a conservative as well.