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Postby Persivis » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:38 am

Vamtrl wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:Does looking at the horrific, bloody, endlessly violent handiwork of exclusively white-run empires (and their hegemonic successors in the US and USSR) get your rocks off?
Or are you just overly confident in your ignorance?


You like getting your jollies making stupid statements? Lets not pretend they held hands and sang kum bah yah before we entered the scene.

Then let us not pretend that the European empires helped the situation.
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Postby Vamtrl » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:41 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:No, which is why I didn't make one there. Thanks for letting me clear that up.
Neither did Europeans. Thus, we can conclude that whiteys are all barbaric and uncivilized by the "they're violent" standard.
Unless you'd like to retroactively put in some dubiously logical and almost-certainly racist exceptions?


No thanks needed, my question was rhetorical. It was obviously stupid but thanks for clearing up your take.
Lol please, "endlessly violent handiwork of exclusively white-run empires".

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Postby Vamtrl » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:43 am

Persivis wrote:Then let us not pretend that the European empires helped the situation.


No body is pretending on that. His comment of "endlessly violent handiwork of exclusively white-run empires" was just too good to pass up.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:44 am

Vamtrl wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:No, which is why I didn't make one there. Thanks for letting me clear that up.
Neither did Europeans. Thus, we can conclude that whiteys are all barbaric and uncivilized by the "they're violent" standard.
Unless you'd like to retroactively put in some dubiously logical and almost-certainly racist exceptions?


No thanks needed, my question was rhetorical. It was obviously stupid but thanks for clearing up your take.
Lol please, "endlessly violent handiwork of exclusively white-run empires".

So your counterargument is to
a) say I'm stupid
b) quote my post back at me with "lol" appended at the front.

That's the ballgame, thanks for playing. You're definitely in a good place to be incoherently mocking other people's posts.
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Postby Persivis » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:46 am

Vamtrl wrote:
Persivis wrote:Then let us not pretend that the European empires helped the situation.


No body is pretending on that. His comment of "endlessly violent handiwork of exclusively white-run empires" was just too good to pass up.

Let's be honest here, the European empires moved in and prevented Africa from ever developing a stable culture and economy itself.
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Postby Vamtrl » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:46 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:
No thanks needed, my question was rhetorical. It was obviously stupid but thanks for clearing up your take.
Lol please, "endlessly violent handiwork of exclusively white-run empires".

So your counterargument is to
a) say I'm stupid
b) quote my post back at me with "lol" appended at the front.

That's the ballgame, thanks for playing.


Great job on your stupid I win post :clap:

Now, if you like - expand on your comment of "endlessly violent handiwork of exclusively white-run empires"

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:49 am

Vamtrl wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:So your counterargument is to
a) say I'm stupid
b) quote my post back at me with "lol" appended at the front.

That's the ballgame, thanks for playing.


Great job on your stupid I win post :clap:

Thanks for that, you're making this much easier for me.
Vamtrl wrote:Now, if you like - expand on your comment of "endlessly violent handiwork of exclusively white-run empires"

Seriously - and this is an honest question - after you've called me stupid twice, why the hell do you think I would I bother? You've been so ridiculously rude, there'd be literally no point. I'm not going to jump through a fucking hoop so you can call me stupid again for the sake of you bidding me to do so.
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Postby Vamtrl » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:50 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:
Great job on your stupid I win post :clap:

Thanks for that, you're making this much easier for me.
Vamtrl wrote:Now, if you like - expand on your comment of "endlessly violent handiwork of exclusively white-run empires"

Seriously - and this is an honest question - after you've called me stupid twice, why the hell do you think I would I bother? You've been so ridiculously rude, there'd be literally no point. I'm not going to jump through a fucking hoop so you can call me stupid again for the sake of you bidding me to do so.


I accept your defeat graciously.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:53 am

Vamtrl wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Thanks for that, you're making this much easier for me.

Seriously - and this is an honest question - after you've called me stupid twice, why the hell do you think I would I bother? You've been so ridiculously rude, there'd be literally no point. I'm not going to jump through a fucking hoop so you can call me stupid again for the sake of you bidding me to do so.


I accept your defeat graciously.

You'll probably want to go to Moderation and explain why you're not a troll right about now, because this post isn't helping anything.
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Postby Vamtrl » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:57 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:
I accept your defeat graciously.

You'll probably want to go to Moderation and explain why you're not a troll right about now, because this post isn't helping anything.


Well, I will start off by this provocative post

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:Said two white people to each other.


Followed by this post after I replied with no agression

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:Does looking at the horrific, bloody, endlessly violent handiwork of exclusively white-run empires (and their hegemonic successors in the US and USSR) get your rocks off?
Or are you just overly confident in your ignorance?


So enough with the hypocrisy. :)

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:59 am

Vamtrl wrote:So enough with the hypocrisy. :)

Why are you trying to convince me?
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Postby Vamtrl » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:01 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:So enough with the hypocrisy. :)

Why are you trying to convince me?


Its for the mods who will come read this eventually. :)

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Postby Nierr » Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:59 am

White exceptionalism has always been racist, ignorant and hilariously wrong.

The last page or so just reinforces that.
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Postby Roski » Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:01 am

Nierr wrote:White exceptionalism has always been racist, ignorant and hilariously wrong.

The last page or so just reinforces that.


Wait, what?
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Postby Murkwood » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:16 am

Roski wrote:
Nierr wrote:White exceptionalism has always been racist, ignorant and hilariously wrong.

The last page or so just reinforces that.


Wait, what?

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Postby Arkinesia » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:27 am

Vamtrl wrote:
Wind in the Willows wrote:Africa, an uncivilized cesspool that has no hope of ever becoming a developed, civilized continent.

There are some shining hopefuls but the rest are as you say "an uncivilized cesspool"

Nice fancy words you two got there, but you're both wrong.
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Postby Othelos » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:03 pm

Wind in the Willows wrote:Africa, an uncivilized cesspool that has no hope of ever becoming a developed, civilized continent.

There's already middle income countries in Africa. Like, botswana.

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Postby Vamtrl » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:06 pm

Arkinesia wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:There are some shining hopefuls but the rest are as you say "an uncivilized cesspool"

Nice fancy words you two got there, but you're both wrong.


You are right, maybe in another hundred years things will have settled down.

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Postby Gauthier » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:08 pm

Roski wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:
Cause they suck.


The only thing Ughanda is doing against gays that we aren't is killing them.
Let's have the rights before we go bomb other countries for it, ok?


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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:09 pm

Roski wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:
Cause they suck.


The only thing Ughanda is doing against gays that we aren't is killing them.
Let's have the rights before we go bomb other countries for it, ok?

So we need to be perfect before suggesting that others try to improve themselves?
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Postby Roski » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:21 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Roski wrote:
The only thing Ughanda is doing against gays that we aren't is killing them.
Let's have the rights before we go bomb other countries for it, ok?

So we need to be perfect before suggesting that others try to improve themselves?


No, but we need to improve ourselves to the level we are forcing other countries to improve.

If we are pushing others to be there, we need to be there.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:23 pm

Roski wrote:
The Tiger Kingdom wrote:So we need to be perfect before suggesting that others try to improve themselves?


No, but we need to improve ourselves to the level we are forcing other countries to improve.

If we are pushing others to be there, we need to be there.

We are there. All we're asking for is that Uganda stop putting gay people in prison for life. The United States does not do that.
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:26 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Roski wrote:
The only thing Ughanda is doing against gays that we aren't is killing them.
Let's have the rights before we go bomb other countries for it, ok?

So we need to be perfect before suggesting that others try to improve themselves?


It does lend a little more credibility.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:27 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Roski wrote:
No, but we need to improve ourselves to the level we are forcing other countries to improve.

If we are pushing others to be there, we need to be there.

We are there. All we're asking for is that Uganda stop putting gay people in prison for life. The United States does not do that.

Yeah, we've long since exceeded the Uganda standard we're asking for, here.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:19 am

Othelos wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:Black people in 2012 had a higher median household income ($33,762 in 2012 dollars, $25,322.16 in 2000 dollars) than people in 1950 did (Almost $25,000 in 2000 dollars), yet they do way more crime.

$33,000 is way under the national median, which is near $50,000.

And the cost of living has increased substantially since 1950.

Why are the Native Americans more peaceful than the blacks then?

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