Surge 2014: A debate on Illegal Immigration and US Policies.

[Othelos]

So you're scared that white people will be wiped out of the face of America? Is that it?

No. It is that we will be reduced to a minority in the country that our ancestors founded, which will occur by 2042.

Also, there is the plethora of negative consequences of having a large third world population in America.

oh my god. clearly nonwhite americans = third world.

and white people don't have a high enough fertility rate to maintain the population. the white population experienced a natural decline last year, 10 years ahead of when predicted. if all non-whites left the country, we'd be in the same situation as germany demographically.

[Kelinfort]

So you're scared that white people will be wiped out of the face of America? Is that it?

No. It is that we will be reduced to a minority in the country that our ancestors founded, which will occur by 2042.

Also, there is the plethora of negative consequences of having a large third world population in America.

Oh, yes, there is, if, you know, these citizens actually caused a country to become a third world nation. It does not.

I'm sorry, but based on your posts, it's clear you do hold prejudiced opinions. I'm not trying to bait, but honestly, I find it shocking you view foreigners, especially non whites in that light.

[Blakk Metal]

No. It is that we will be reduced to a minority in the country that our ancestors founded, which will occur by 2042.

Also, there is the plethora of negative consequences of having a large third world population in America.

Oh, yes, there is, if, you know, these citizens actually caused a country to become a third world nation.

They did though.

[Mushet]

So you're scared that white people will be wiped out of the face of America? Is that it?

No. It is that we will be reduced to a minority in the country that our ancestors founded, which will occur by 2042.

Also, there is the plethora of negative consequences of having a large third world population in America.

Being a minority isn't about numbers it's about power.

And how do you know America won't just assimilate certain "Hispanics" into being white? Y'know like it did with Italians and Irish and pretty much everyone that wasn't of Anglo descent.

And that last statement comes with many problematic assumptions, like that anyone with descent from a "third world" country is still "third world" after their family probably lived in a "first world" nation for generations, which will likely be the case with those born and raised here outnumbering the immigrants. Also that people with descent from a place that is now "third world" is automatically a problem.

[Kelinfort]

Oh, yes, there is, if, you know, these citizens actually caused a country to become a third world nation.

They did though.

Using your conclusion, why didn't all those white settlers in South Africa or Angola make it a first world country?

[Norstal]

They did though.

Using your conclusion, why didn't all those white settlers in South Africa or Angola make it a first world country?

inb4 they got kicked out/didn't stay long enough/etc. et nauseam.

[Kelinfort]

Using your conclusion, why didn't all those white settlers in South Africa or Angola make it a first world country?

inb4 they got kicked out/didn't stay long enough/etc. et nauseam.

Whites have been in South Africa for 400 years, what's taking them so long?

[Blakk Metal]

They did though.

Using your conclusion, why didn't all those white settlers in South Africa or Angola make it a first world country?

They were able to get close.

[Norstal]

inb4 they got kicked out/didn't stay long enough/etc. et nauseam.

Whites have been in South Africa for 400 years, what's taking them so long?

The mere notion that these poor third-worlder Latinos can change a nation into a third-world faster than the whites can change their colonies into first-worlds is quite laughable indeed. In fact, that reminds me. It's the same logic that Nazis used with Jews.

>Jews control the world through an evil cabal of New World Order
>But Jews are more inferior than Aryans

It's like, well then ok. I then prefer America to turn into a third-world country because if they can change this country that fast, we clearly are inferior to them.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Using your conclusion, why didn't all those white settlers in South Africa or Angola make it a first world country?

They were able to get close.

Yea you mean South African Apartheid which not only caused the country to be worse off but also was cut off of all international trade and collapsed in the 1980s under the leadership of Nelson Mandela? THAT SA?!

Because honestly, if you're saying Apartheid South Africa was a paradise you might want to review history a little bit.

[Benuty]

They were able to get close.

Yea you mean South African Apartheid which not only caused the country to be worse off but also was cut off of all international trade and collapsed in the 1980s under the leadership of Nelson Mandela? THAT SA?!

Because honestly, if you're saying Apartheid South Africa was a paradise you might want to review history a little bit.

Compared to many of its neighbors though.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yea you mean South African Apartheid which not only caused the country to be worse off but also was cut off of all international trade and collapsed in the 1980s under the leadership of Nelson Mandela? THAT SA?!

Because honestly, if you're saying Apartheid South Africa was a paradise you might want to review history a little bit.

Compared to many of its neighbors though.

Which were in bad shape because of who?

[Blakk Metal]

They were able to get close.

Yea you mean South African Apartheid which not only caused the country to be worse off but also was cut off of all international trade and collapsed in the 1980s under the leadership of Nelson Mandela? THAT SA?!

Because honestly, if you're saying Apartheid South Africa was a paradise you might want to review history a little bit.

South Africa was one of the best countries in Africa before you guys went 'RAYCISS' and applied sanctions.

Compared to many of its neighbors though.

Which were in bad shape because of who?

Themselves.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yea you mean South African Apartheid which not only caused the country to be worse off but also was cut off of all international trade and collapsed in the 1980s under the leadership of Nelson Mandela? THAT SA?!

Because honestly, if you're saying Apartheid South Africa was a paradise you might want to review history a little bit.

South Africa was one of the best countries in Africa before you guys went 'RAYCISS' and applied sanctions.

Yea, because Apartheid wasn't all about keeping them negroes in their place, right? How could I have forgotten that keeping the negroes in the shackles of the whites is the utopian future

[Blakk Metal]

South Africa was one of the best countries in Africa before you guys went 'RAYCISS' and applied sanctions.

Yea, because Apartheid wasn't all about keeping them negroes in their place, right?

It was. The better conditions was just a benign side effect.

[Othelos]

Yea, because Apartheid wasn't all about keeping them negroes in their place, right?

It was. The better conditions was just a benign side effect.

what

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It was. The better conditions was just a benign side effect.

what

Yep, there you have it; racism is good as long as it benefits white people only. Fuck everyone else.

[Blakk Metal]

what

Yep, there you have it; racism is good as long as it benefits white people only. Fuck everyone else.

I never said that.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yep, there you have it; racism is good as long as it benefits white people only. Fuck everyone else.

I never said that.

You don't have to, the arguments speak for themselves.

[Blakk Metal]

I never said that.

You don't have to, the arguments speak for themselves.

I'd like to remind you that what you are doing, flamebaiting, is against the rules.

[Othelos]

You don't have to, the arguments speak for themselves.

I'd like to remind you that what you are doing, flamebaiting, is against the rules.

He isn't flamebaiting.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You don't have to, the arguments speak for themselves.

I'd like to remind you that what you are doing, flamebaiting, is against the rules.

How am I flamebaiting when I am telling you your arguments reflect the position that "racism is good"?

Unless you're the kind of person who is going to beat my ass when you have nothing else to discuss about the subject when I prove you wrong and ragequit it isn't flamebaiting.

[Blakk Metal]

I'd like to remind you that what you are doing, flamebaiting, is against the rules.

How am I flamebaiting when I am telling you your arguments reflect the position that "racism is good"?

You never said that. You said, "Yep, there you have it; racism is good as long as it benefits white people only. Fuck everyone else."

[Soldati Senza Confini]

How am I flamebaiting when I am telling you your arguments reflect the position that "racism is good"?

You never said that. You said, "Yep, there you have it; racism is good as long as it benefits white people only. Fuck everyone else."

And that's flamebaiting how? Because you don't like what I'm understanding from your arguments to be thrown back at you?

Also, you DO realize I am a minority, correct? That would mean I am flamebaiting myself.

[Kelinfort]

Yea, because Apartheid wasn't all about keeping them negroes in their place, right?

It was. The better conditions was just a benign side effect.

Yea, better for the whites, but African living conditions were the same as elsewhere. Also, you never explained Angola or Mozambique. Not to mention, by your own argument, slaves should've ruined American when they were freed.