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What does the Confederate battle flag mean to you?

Poll ended at Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:59 am

Racisism
375
22%
Southern Heritage
289
17%
Southern Pride
298
17%
Remembrance
163
9%
HERITAGE NOT HATE
168
10%
Slavery
342
20%
Saint Andrew's cross
91
5%
 
Total votes : 1726

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Postby Jamjai » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:23 pm

It basically reminding them of the past and way of life back in the days of the confederate besides slavery
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Postby Christiaanistan » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:29 pm

Jamjai wrote:It basically reminding them of the past and way of life back in the days of the confederate besides slavery
They didn't have babes in blue jean cut-offs in the 1800's.

Hey, Yankees! Hey! HEY! Stop sending us your Republican jerks, and send down more buxom babes! We're a subtropical climate, so they can run around in those little shorts all year long! Woohoo!!!
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Postby ALMF » Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:19 pm

Christiaanistan wrote:
ALMF wrote:We seem to be getting into some weird corners were a strait deduction wold do.

The confederate flag represents the confederacy.
Nope! It represents the The Dukes of Hazzard and free-spirited derring-do! And hot babes in blue jean cutoffs.

And beer. Look, you're not going to win this one. I grew up with these guys, and I can tell you first-hand that there is nothing in their consciousness that is half as sophisticated as the thoughts that you are trying to attribute to them.

No thoughts required. The confederate flag represents the confederacy irregardless of intent. Ergo if you wave it you are a racest. You seem to be arguing unwitting but that wold just make them unwitting racests. In this case were the symbolism is so well connected to clear history, it becomes delusional. That is, if there flying the confederate flag and don't realize they,re resists, they'er insane racists (in knead of psychiatric confinement) as opposed to eval racists (in knead of urine facials and other things the mods wouldn't let me say)
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:43 pm

ALMF wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
I think you are going too far. For example, I do not see this memorial as antisemitic:

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There are no Nazi symbols, and combining it with a WWI memorial makes it clear that it is about honoring the dead, not promoting Nazi ideology. There is also an inscription in German that is not in this photo that says it is honoring fallen soldiers and does not mention Nazism or the 3rd Reich.

If a Southern town did the equivalent of this, and put up a memorial to their fallen soldiers, which included those killed in the Civil War, but did not use Confederate national symbols, it would be fine.

At this (above example) point I can see the argument. (not that I agree)

I think you wold agree, putting the NAZI flag on you truck to commemorate the german army of say 40/41 is antisemedic.


Yeah, putting the Nazi flag on your truck would be antisemitic.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:13 pm

Christiaanistan wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:Except a hell of a lot of treason.
Hey, Yankee. Come gather up the Republican carpetbagger yuppie vermin you spawned, and haul them back home with you.

While you're at it, send down some more beautiful women.

And I'll fly the Jolly Roger if I bloody well feel like it.


No, we like hogging all the women. If you legalized gay marriage you might get more lesbians to stay in the South instead of coming up here.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:49 pm

Christiaanistan wrote:
Jamjai wrote:It basically reminding them of the past and way of life back in the days of the confederate besides slavery
They didn't have babes in blue jean cut-offs in the 1800's.

Hey, Yankees! Hey! HEY! Stop sending us your Republican jerks, and send down more buxom babes! We're a subtropical climate, so they can run around in those little shorts all year long! Woohoo!!!


:lol2:
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Postby Arkinesia » Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:24 pm

Christiaanistan wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:Except a hell of a lot of treason.
Hey, Yankee.

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Postby Gaelic Celtia » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:13 pm

Regardless of the fliers intent they should recognize that it's racial overtones are going to offend many people.
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:46 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:You're beating a dead horse.


I don't like it. My ancestors fought to preserve this Union.


Some of them fought for the Confederacy as well, but let's ignore that.


Hey, at least your ancestors got off their asses and did something! Mine just sat around in the North and ignored the war.


Ironically, being Quakers, we should've pussied out of the war as well. But we fought!
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:47 am

Christiaanistan wrote:
Jamjai wrote:It basically reminding them of the past and way of life back in the days of the confederate besides slavery
They didn't have babes in blue jean cut-offs in the 1800's.

Hey, Yankees! Hey! HEY! Stop sending us your Republican jerks, and send down more buxom babes! We're a subtropical climate, so they can run around in those little shorts all year long! Woohoo!!!


Are you speaking of Daisy Dukes?
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The Confederate battle flag

Postby TheConfederate States of America » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:59 am

Lets talk about the Confederate battle flag.

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Battle flag of the army of Tenneessee




Lets get started when you see this flag what comes to mind?

Why?

Are you "into" the history of the war?

Do you think this was the Confederate national flag?
No it wasn't


This was a BATTLE flag.
Do you know what a battle flag is?


Please note I am NOT a racist nor have I ever been.
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The Azorean Islands
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Postby The Azorean Islands » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:02 am

The CSA comes to mind when I see that flag. For obvious reasons.

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Postby Herodas » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:03 am

I don't really think, that this discussion is at the right place at International Incidents...

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Postby Djadjoekstan » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:05 am

Wat de fuk is dis?
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Postby TheConfederate States of America » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:10 am

The Azorean Islands wrote:The CSA comes to mind when I see that flag. For obvious reasons.


BTW i'm not talking about the flag that I have as my nation flag this one actually represented the CSA.

The one I am talking about did not represent the CSA but it was flag for the army not the CSA.

You get what I mean?

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Postby TheConfederate States of America » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:10 am

Djadjoekstan wrote:Wat de fuk is dis?


A reasonable discussion.

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The Pacifican Islands
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Postby The Pacifican Islands » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:12 am

I sorta like the battle flag. MENACING.

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Postby TheConfederate States of America » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:15 am

The Pacifican Islands wrote:I sorta like the battle flag. MENACING.



Me too, who voted slavery?

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Postby TheConfederate States of America » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:16 am

The Pacifican Islands wrote:I sorta like the battle flag. MENACING.


Why is it "MENACING"?

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Postby TheConfederate States of America » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:21 am

Does anyone know who Saint Andrew was?

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Postby Gaelic Celtia » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:22 am

Wrll first, this is the wrong forum.

Second, it is a flag that was flown by armies fighting to preserve the institution of slavery. So yes. Like it or not It has negative meaning.
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Postby Gaelic Celtia » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:23 am

TheConfederate States of America wrote:Does anyone know who Saint Andrew was?

Patron saint of Scotland. ...how is that relevant
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Postby Avaerilon » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:24 am

Yes; he happens to be the patron Saint of Scotland and his cross appears on the Scottish flag.

Herodas wrote:I don't really think, that this discussion is at the right place at International Incidents...


^This. This thread does not belong in this part of the forum, and ought to be in something like General, not a role-play section.
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Postby Maltropia » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:26 am

Avaerilon wrote:Yes; he happens to be the patron Saint of Scotland and his cross appears on the Scottish flag.

Herodas wrote:I don't really think, that this discussion is at the right place at International Incidents...


^This. This thread does not belong in this part of the forum, and ought to be in something like General, not a role-play section.

I posted a move request in the appropriate Moderation thread, so this should end up in the right place soon enough.
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Postby The Pacifican Islands » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:27 am

TheConfederate States of America wrote:
The Pacifican Islands wrote:I sorta like the battle flag. MENACING.


Why is it "MENACING"?


It sorta looks like: "WERE GONNA KICK YOUR ***" I would not want to face a nation with that flag

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