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Postby Roski » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:36 pm

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Edlichbury wrote:Yeah, those 30000 deaths a year a just minor details! Clearly people who have actually tried to combat institutionalised racism a secretly scared of black people, and not trying to end one of the greatest epidemics in America. It'd be silly to think we'd do something about 30000 deaths a year, when have we ever enacted policies simply because a lot of people died?


The answer to reducing crime is combating poverty, not taking away people's rights.


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Postby Bambifan101 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:36 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
Edlichbury wrote:Yeah, those 30000 deaths a year a just minor details! Clearly people who have actually tried to combat institutionalised racism a secretly scared of black people, and not trying to end one of the greatest epidemics in America. It'd be silly to think we'd do something about 30000 deaths a year, when have we ever enacted policies simply because a lot of people died?


The answer to reducing crime is combating poverty, not taking away people's rights.


That too.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:36 pm

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Edlichbury wrote:Fucking source that. I highly doubt 20% of Americans are in a militia.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/05/southern-poverty-law-center-militias-gun-control/1964411/


And trust me, there are lots of people in these militias.

Your source doesn't Support your claim. Try again.
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Postby Roski » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:37 pm

Dyakovo wrote:

Your source doesn't Support your claim. Try again.

It does, you can't read between the lines. Try again.
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Postby Arkiasis » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:37 pm

Wednesday's signing came at an open-air picnic area along a creek in Ellijay, in northern Georgia. It opened with a prayer, the singing of the national anthem and a recital of the Pledge of Allegiance.


I guess stereotypes exist for a reason.
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:37 pm

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Edlichbury wrote:Yeah, those 30000 deaths a year a just minor details! Clearly people who have actually tried to combat institutionalised racism a secretly scared of black people, and not trying to end one of the greatest epidemics in America. It'd be silly to think we'd do something about 30000 deaths a year, when have we ever enacted policies simply because a lot of people died?


The answer to reducing crime is combating poverty, not taking away people's rights.

Never thought I'd agree with YOU. :shock: :eek:

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Postby Tule » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:38 pm

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Tule wrote:
Right.

That being said, I don't think this new law will have a major impact on gun violence in Georgia, positive or negative.


But this isn't Austria, where they could feasibly stop all guns from entering the country.

The United States cannot, so in order to survive, we must do the opposite.


Are you fucking kidding me? Austria is a party to the Schengen Agreement, which means that it has practically no border control whatsoever.

The gun control legislation put into effect in Austria in 1997 intentionally reduced the number of law-abiding, licensed gun owners. Not career criminals.
More guns = more violent deaths, that is simply the way it is.

But that doesn't necessarily justify all gun control automatically. Alcohol and tobacco kill people to a far greater extent than firearms do, yet they are legal because most people don't think its fair to punish lots of innocent people for the crimes of a few rotten apples.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:40 pm

Roski wrote:
Edlichbury wrote:There is nothing in that article that mentions twenty percent of Americans being in militia. Stop lying, then I might trust you.


So, on average, how many people are in these militias? 2? 4? Try 500.
So, lets see, almost two thousand militias, about 500 members each...

So about a million people, or less than a third of a percent of the population. Now, I can't say I know that much about your fancy mathematics, but one third sounds like a fair bit less than 20.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:41 pm

Arkiasis wrote:
Wednesday's signing came at an open-air picnic area along a creek in Ellijay, in northern Georgia. It opened with a prayer, the singing of the national anthem and a recital of the Pledge of Allegiance.


I guess stereotypes exist for a reason.

That prayer part made me hiss, weird since I generally don't give a flying fuck.
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Postby Bambifan101 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:41 pm

How about we also crack down on the gang problem?
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:41 pm

Bambifan101 wrote:How about we also crack down on the gang problem?

Or gang up on the crack problem.
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Postby Bambifan101 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:42 pm

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:
Arkiasis wrote:
I guess stereotypes exist for a reason.

That prayer part made me hiss, weird since I generally don't give a flying fuck.


Dude I'd recommend that we not pour any more fuel on this fire.
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Postby Blazedtown » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:43 pm

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Blazedtown wrote:
The answer to reducing crime is combating poverty, not taking away people's rights.

Never thought I'd agree with YOU. :shock: :eek:

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Postby Bambifan101 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:44 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
The Fascist American Empire wrote:Never thought I'd agree with YOU. :shock: :eek:

I'm going off-line to rethink my life. Anybody want tacos when I get back?


I do have my rational moments.


Finally someone else who sees the bigger picture.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:47 pm

Bambifan101 wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:That prayer part made me hiss, weird since I generally don't give a flying fuck.


Dude I'd recommend that we not pour any more fuel on this fire.

What fire :\
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:49 pm

The Fascist American Empire wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Freedom of speech was never eliminated and there was never a revolt Because of the Eighteenth Amendment. Care to try again?

Oh I'm sorry, have you not heard of:
The American Revolution or,
the recent NATO-led coup in Libya or,
The Collapse of the Soviet Union?

Other examples, but I can't think of them right off the bat.

Have any examples from the US? Because, you know, that's what we're talking about.
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Postby Roski » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:50 pm

Nopity nope nope.
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:51 pm

Roski wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:So about a million people, or less than a third of a percent of the population. Now, I can't say I know that much about your fancy mathematics, but one third sounds like a fair bit less than 20.


One third is 33.333%

Please learn math.

He said less than a third of a percent.

I don't think the one who has a problem with math is Wis.
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Postby Roski » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:52 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Roski wrote:
One third is 33.333%

Please learn math.

He said less than a third of a percent.

I don't think the one who has a problem with math is Wis.


Didn't see the percent until after the post.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:52 pm

Roski wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:So about a million people, or less than a third of a percent of the population. Now, I can't say I know that much about your fancy mathematics, but one third sounds like a fair bit less than 20.


One third is 33.333%

Please learn math.

... yeah, that was bad wording on my part. But, dude, unless I misread something, you said that 2000 militias with 500 members each is 20% of the American population. You have absolutely no business telling me that my math needs to improve.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:54 pm

Roski wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Your source doesn't Support your claim. Try again.

It does, you can't read between the lines. Try again.

Quit lying.
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Postby Bambifan101 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:57 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Roski wrote:It does, you can't read between the lines. Try again.

Quit lying.


How about you two quit arguing about fringe groups?
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:59 pm

Bambifan101 wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Quit lying.


How about you two quit arguing about fringe groups?

You DO know that you don't have to read these posts, right? Nor do you have to post. The fact that you believe this thread to be worthless while STILL posting in it is baffling. And it's honestly not contributing anything. At all.
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Postby Bambifan101 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:00 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Bambifan101 wrote:
How about you two quit arguing about fringe groups?

You DO know that you don't have to read these posts, right? Nor do you have to post. The fact that you believe this thread to be worthless while STILL posting in it is baffling. And it's honestly not contributing anything. At all.


I don't believe the thread itself to be worthless and I find it quite hilarious actually. For example right now I am laughing at ***** and ******* for completely skewing their arguments by using biased sites.
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