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Postby United Marxist Nations » Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:36 am

Huh, I would have that that the more time Nazis spend talking about genocide, the less time they would have spent doing actual genocide.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:36 am

Chestaan wrote:
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I don't understand the hatred for Jews on the part of White supremacists. I know a lot of Jews aren't White, but the Ashkenazi Jews have skin that is "White enough" in my judgement. I think they should be accepted into the fold on the basis that they do have substantial European ancestry and a history of residing within the continent. I believe this is a matter of being pragmatic. They need to accept Slavs as well.


Why does skin colour matter?

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Postby Shnercropolis » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:30 am

I bet all hate-crime murders can be traced to google.
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Postby Viritica » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:33 am

Shnercropolis wrote:I bet all hate-crime murders can be traced to google.

It's a conspiracy.
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Postby Unidox » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:41 am

Dyakovo wrote:...
Linky

So, NSG, what do you think should be done now that we have this information?
Personally, I think the place should be shut down, though no before getting the RL identities of as many of their users as possible and adding them all to the terror watch list...

This. But, it begs the questions where was the NSA on these events, and how effective is such an organizations?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:44 am

Saiwania wrote:
Chestaan wrote:Why does skin colour matter?


Why doesn't skin color not matter? It matters to me because being White is at the core of my identity, and I understandably don't want my demographic to just vanish. If I was Black, I would be all about Black skin because I would be Black. Call me a Neanderthal if you will, but it is just how I am. I need an ancestral group to belong to and relish in.


It is actually possible to get the fuck over it, and to develop a core identity based upon healthier things, like pride in one's accomplishments, love of one's fellow human beings, or any one of thousands of other things, not on a largely artificial and totally meaningless social construct oriented around pigmentation.

For further information, read The Sneetches by Dr. Seuss.

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Postby Geilinor » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:45 am

Unidox wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:...
Linky

So, NSG, what do you think should be done now that we have this information?
Personally, I think the place should be shut down, though no before getting the RL identities of as many of their users as possible and adding them all to the terror watch list...

This. But, it begs the questions where was the NSA on these events, and how effective is such an organizations?

These people have killed far more than terrorists have in the United States since after 9/11, so I think the government should move some of its focus to neo-Nazis.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:48 am

Geilinor wrote:
Unidox wrote:This. But, it begs the questions where was the NSA on these events, and how effective is such an organizations?

These people have killed far more than terrorists have in the United States since after 9/11, so I think the government should move some of its focus to neo-Nazis.


But if they did their job, there might not be as much job to do. Then they might lose their job.
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Postby Destiny Island » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:54 am

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Geilinor wrote:These people have killed far more than terrorists have in the United States since after 9/11, so I think the government should move some of its focus to neo-Nazis.


But if they did their job, there might not be as much job to do. Then they might lose their job.

The NSA is just keeping their job security. *nods*
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Postby Nirya » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:10 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Wind in the Willows wrote:
Have Stormfront users ever came on NS and attempted to troll? Just curious.


Oh, yes. They come in waves about once every couple years. They rarely last long. We kind of enforce an environment of mutual respect around here and that doesn't quite jibe with the majority of them. Then most of the rest fade away as they realize that they've spent most of their time with their head in an echo chamber and they are uncomfortable in an environment where their opinions aren't reinforced by the echos. Believe it or not, one or two have made homes here for quite a while. But I suspect we end up changing them more than they change us.

Force an environment of mutual respect? Um, no you don't. You're just as biased as the rest of the moderation team.
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Postby Dejanic » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:21 pm

Nirya wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Oh, yes. They come in waves about once every couple years. They rarely last long. We kind of enforce an environment of mutual respect around here and that doesn't quite jibe with the majority of them. Then most of the rest fade away as they realize that they've spent most of their time with their head in an echo chamber and they are uncomfortable in an environment where their opinions aren't reinforced by the echos. Believe it or not, one or two have made homes here for quite a while. But I suspect we end up changing them more than they change us.

Force an environment of mutual respect? Um, no you don't. You're just as biased as the rest of the moderation team.

Is that all you have to add to the discussion, A thinly veiled insult?

You should probably check out Stormfront by the way, you'd like it a lot.
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Postby Nirya » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:24 pm

Dejanic wrote:
Nirya wrote:Force an environment of mutual respect? Um, no you don't. You're just as biased as the rest of the moderation team.

Is that all you have to add to the discussion, A thinly veiled insult?

You should probably check out Stormfront by the way, you'd like it a lot.

Why would I like Stormfront, do explain.
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Postby Dejanic » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:27 pm

Nirya wrote:
Dejanic wrote:Is that all you have to add to the discussion, A thinly veiled insult?

You should probably check out Stormfront by the way, you'd like it a lot.

Why would I like Stormfront, do explain.

Because you're a member of the National Front, you'll find a lot of your brothers on Stormfront (pretty much the entire French section are also members of the NF).

You'll also be able to express fascistic views without being reprimanded by Communists and "biased mods", isn't that a plus?
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Postby Nirya » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:29 pm

Dejanic wrote:
Nirya wrote:Why would I like Stormfront, do explain.

Because you're a member of the National Front, you'll find a lot of your brothers on Stormfront (pretty much the entire French section are also members of the NF).

You'll also be able to express fascistic views without being reprimanded by Communists and "biased mods", isn't that a plus?

I am not a member of the FN ! You should try sourcing my agenda instead of telling me what I think.
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Postby Nirya » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:29 pm

Dejanic wrote:
Nirya wrote:Why would I like Stormfront, do explain.

Because you're a member of the National Front, you'll find a lot of your brothers on Stormfront (pretty much the entire French section are also members of the NF).

You'll also be able to express fascistic views without being reprimanded by Communists and "biased mods", isn't that a plus?

I love your Far-Left bias. I also love how you think their is only Communism and Fascism. I have my own agenda of combined ideas.
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Postby Independent Canterbury » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:40 pm

In any case i don't see why Jewfront should be shut down because a few nut jobs.
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Postby Dejanic » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:41 pm

Independent Canterbury wrote:In any case i don't see why Jewfront should be shut down because a few nut jobs.

Jewfront? What? This is the first time I've actually laughed at a post on NS. :rofl:
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:44 pm

Independent Canterbury wrote:In any case i don't see why Jewfront should be shut down because a few nut jobs.

Stormfront is discriminatory towards Jews.
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Postby Nirya » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:46 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Independent Canterbury wrote:In any case i don't see why Jewfront should be shut down because a few nut jobs.

Stormfront is discriminatory towards Jews.

A den of iniquity and sin, Stormfront is.
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Postby Nirya » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:47 pm

Dejanic wrote:
Independent Canterbury wrote:In any case i don't see why Jewfront should be shut down because a few nut jobs.

Jewfront? What? This is the first time I've actually laughed at a post on NS. :rofl:

I am still waiting for you to refute my last comment.
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Postby Dejanic » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:47 pm

Nirya wrote:
Dejanic wrote:Because you're a member of the National Front, you'll find a lot of your brothers on Stormfront (pretty much the entire French section are also members of the NF).

You'll also be able to express fascistic views without being reprimanded by Communists and "biased mods", isn't that a plus?

I love your Far-Left bias. I also love how you think their is only Communism and Fascism. I have my own agenda of combined ideas.

I just don't see the point in basically supporting the Fascist line on most issues but insisting you're not a fascist, it would be like me believing in what I believe in but asserting that I'm not a Communist, I'm a modern Democratic Decentralised Council Socialist. Why beat around the bush.

If it's real life, I get it, but on Nationstates?
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:48 pm

Shut it down and burn the remains.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:48 pm

Nirya wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Oh, yes. They come in waves about once every couple years. They rarely last long. We kind of enforce an environment of mutual respect around here and that doesn't quite jibe with the majority of them. Then most of the rest fade away as they realize that they've spent most of their time with their head in an echo chamber and they are uncomfortable in an environment where their opinions aren't reinforced by the echos. Believe it or not, one or two have made homes here for quite a while. But I suspect we end up changing them more than they change us.

Force an environment of mutual respect? Um, no you don't. You're just as biased as the rest of the moderation team.


If I were guilty of every type of bias I was accused of, I'd have to be Sybil. :p
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:49 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Nirya wrote:Force an environment of mutual respect? Um, no you don't. You're just as biased as the rest of the moderation team.


If I were guilty of every type of bias I was accused of, I'd have to be Sybil. :p

You are guilty of taco bias, though.
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Postby Nirya » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:49 pm

Dejanic wrote:
Nirya wrote:I love your Far-Left bias. I also love how you think their is only Communism and Fascism. I have my own agenda of combined ideas.

I just don't see the point in basically supporting the Fascist line on most issues but insisting you're not a fascist, it would be like me believing in what I believe in but asserting that I'm not a Communist, I'm a modern Democratic Decentralised Council Socialist. Why beat around the bush.

If it's real life, I get it, but on Nationstates?

The only remotely fascist thing I support is Nationalism and extreme hatred of Communism. Do Fascist believe in Gay Marriage? No? I do. Are Fascists Pro-Choice? No? I am. Do Fascists love nature? I do. Your logic is tainted with extremism.
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