LGBT Rights & Issues Thread

[Dyakovo]

You say the backwards 'R' like a regular 'R', right?

Cyrillic hurts my poor little brain

It's much easier once you learn the names of the letters.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

All of these are informal dictionaries, not academic ones.

All I'm telling you is that such a word doesn't exist in formal usage. Perhaps in a slang term, but not formally. If you want to keep on using it and be wrong be my guest, but I think I know more English being here 11 years than you do.

But that's not a "slang dictionaries". Just dictionaries.

Do you know what slang is?

[Othelos]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexualism

The root word from where "homosexualist" should come from is undefined. Try again.

Look, I can bombard you with links to other dictionaries.

Look - this word exist. And you, and others may not "like" it. I won't stop using it.

It's improper, though. As I stated before, people are homosexuals, but they are not homosexualists.

[Grenartia]

You say the backwards 'R' like a regular 'R', right?

No, the "Я" makes the "ya" sound.

I'm just glad I purposefully guessed wrong, or else my point would've been shot all to hell.

[Dyakovo]

That's their problem if they don't know something, not mine.



WikiDictionary - not trustworthy?

WikiDictionary is not an authoritative dictionary of the American English language.

Try Merriam-Webster or Encarta; for British English try Oxford.

Oxford dictionary is better for American English as well.

[Neutraligon]

WikiDictionary is not an authoritative dictionary of the American English language.

Try Merriam-Webster or Encarta; for British English try Oxford.

Oxford dictionary is better for American English as well.

Indeed, they have a dictionary specifically for American English. I still find it funny that a non-native speaker claims to know better than native speakers when it comes to a word existing, being in common usage, and to having certain connotations.

[Dyakovo]

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/sp ... osexualism

Says "no definition found"

I think that was the point.

[Dyakovo]

Double post

[Aeken]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexualism

The root word from where "homosexualist" should come from is undefined. Try again.

Look, I can bombard you with links to other dictionaries.

Look - this word exist. And you, and others may not "like" it. I won't stop using it.

Yes it exists. But why use it? It seems as if you're intentionally using it to demean us and get away with it. Homosexualism is not a commonly accepted word, which you probably understand by now.

[Grenartia]

Oxford dictionary is better for American English as well.

Indeed, they have a dictionary specifically for American English. I still find it funny that a non-native speaker claims to know better than native speakers when it comes to a word existing, being in common usage, and to having certain connotations.

By his logic, I could say "I got disappeared" instead of "I got lost", and it'd be perfectly legitimate, and any misunderstandings are from the butthurt native speakers.

[Lyttenburg]

Does this mean if I learn Russian and visit your country, get lost in the woods, and tell the story, and instead of saying "getting lost", I say I "got disappeared", it would be a legitimate usage of that term, and any misunderstandings that result are the fault of the listeners?

Russian is actually not so simple. Got "diasappeared" may mean that either you "disappear/ischeznul" (in sense "without a trace"), or someone "disappeared" you (zastavil ischexnut'). In Russian are not even similar to ones used to describe your getting lost.

In your case you can say that you:
- 1) Poteryalsa (v lesu) 2) Zaplutal. 3) Zabludilsa - all synonism to "got lost"
- 4) Sbilsa s puti. 5) Ne mog najti dorogi - all synonims to "couldn't find a way back"

etc.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Oxford dictionary is better for American English as well.

Indeed, they have a dictionary specifically for American English. I still find it funny that a non-native speaker claims to know better than native speakers when it comes to a word existing, being in common usage, and to having certain connotations.

It's funny you mention that because I used to be more flamboyant in my speech when I came to the U.S.

Took a while for my language to become like that of the average English speaker in terms of it being simple.

[Grenartia]

Does this mean if I learn Russian and visit your country, get lost in the woods, and tell the story, and instead of saying "getting lost", I say I "got disappeared", it would be a legitimate usage of that term, and any misunderstandings that result are the fault of the listeners?

Russian is actually not so simple. Got "diasappeared" may mean that either you "disappear/ischeznul" (in sense "without a trace"), or someone "disappeared" you (zastavil ischexnut'). In Russian are not even similar to ones used to describe your getting lost.

In your case you can say that you:
- 1) Poteryalsa (v lesu) 2) Zaplutal. 3) Zabludilsa - all synonism to "got lost"
- 4) Sbilsa s puti. 5) Ne mog najti dorogi - all synonims to "couldn't find a way back"

etc.

See what happens when the shoe is on the other foot when non-native speakers assume shit about the language in front of the native speakers?

Have you learned your lesson?

[Neutraligon]

Indeed, they have a dictionary specifically for American English. I still find it funny that a non-native speaker claims to know better than native speakers when it comes to a word existing, being in common usage, and to having certain connotations.

It's funny you mention that because I used to be more flamboyant in my speech when I came to the U.S.

Took a while for my language to become like that of the average English speaker in terms of it being simple.

From what I can tell, that's pretty common when speaking foreign tongues. Colloquial languages tend to simplify things in many respects.

[Lyttenburg]

See what happens when the shoe is on the other foot when non-native speakers assume shit about the language in front of the native speakers?

Have you learned your lesson?

Still, "homosexual" and "homosexualist" are not as dissimilar as "ischeznul" and "poteryalsa"

[Neutraligon]

See what happens when the shoe is on the other foot when non-native speakers assume shit about the language in front of the native speakers?

Have you learned your lesson?

Still, "homosexual" and "homosexualist" are not as dissimilar as "ischeznul" and "poteryalsa"

Except they are due to connotation.

[Grenartia]

See what happens when the shoe is on the other foot when non-native speakers assume shit about the language in front of the native speakers?

Have you learned your lesson?

Still, "homosexual" and "homosexualist" are not as dissimilar as "ischeznul" and "poteryalsa"

Only as far as sound goes. In meaning, yes, they are that dissimilar.

[Dyakovo]

See what happens when the shoe is on the other foot when non-native speakers assume shit about the language in front of the native speakers?

Have you learned your lesson?

Still, "homosexual" and "homosexualist" are not as dissimilar as "ischeznul" and "poteryalsa"

Actually, they're more dissimilar.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

See what happens when the shoe is on the other foot when non-native speakers assume shit about the language in front of the native speakers?

Have you learned your lesson?

Still, "homosexual" and "homosexualist" are not as dissimilar as "ischeznul" and "poteryalsa"

They are dissimilar to a native-speaker though, which is the point.

You may not see it, but it's like with the Spanish "cuchara" and "cucharilla"; they look alike, but they are used to describe two different types of spoons, and people in Spanish can tell the difference between them.

In English "homosexual" and "homosexualist" may not look as dissimilar to a foreign speaker, but for a native speaker is like you're throwing at them two different words.

[Neutraligon]

Still, "homosexual" and "homosexualist" are not as dissimilar as "ischeznul" and "poteryalsa"

Only as far as sound goes. In meaning, yes, they are that dissimilar.

It's like the term ma(3) and ma(1) in Chinese. To foreigners they sound similar, but the meaning is very, very different.

[Grenartia]

Only as far as sound goes. In meaning, yes, they are that dissimilar.

It's like the term ma(3) and ma(1) in Chinese. To foreigners they sound similar, but the meaning is very, very different.

Or the terms papa and papá in Spanish. If you fry one, you get a tasty snack. Fry the other, and you killed your dad.

[Immoren]

Only as far as sound goes. In meaning, yes, they are that dissimilar.

It's like the term ma(3) and ma(1) in Chinese. To foreigners they sound similar, but the meaning is very, very different.

[Grenartia]

It's like the term ma(3) and ma(1) in Chinese. To foreigners they sound similar, but the meaning is very, very different.

No. That's just a fucked up language, right there.

[Neutraligon]

It's like the term ma(3) and ma(1) in Chinese. To foreigners they sound similar, but the meaning is very, very different.

Or the terms papa and papá in Spanish. If you fry one, you get a tasty snack. Fry the other, and you killed your dad.

And please do not mix up ano with año... if you say tengo catorce anos and the person will very worried about you.

[Immoren]

It's like the term ma(3) and ma(1) in Chinese. To foreigners they sound similar, but the meaning is very, very different.

Or the terms papa and papá in Spanish. If you fry one, you get a tasty snack. Fry the other, and you killed your dad.

Swedish "gift" as noun means "poison", and as adjective it means "married"