Philippines Discussion Thread

[Seylland]

What if Duterte is the Antichrist.

I'd be more worried of Trump being the anti-Christ if anything.

True.

What if Duterte is the Antichrist.

We aren't the new Zion don't believe that Iglesian claptrap

I'm sorry? But srsly Iglesians are rather... loony.

[Victoriala II]

I'd be more worried of Trump being the anti-Christ if anything.

True.

We aren't the new Zion don't believe that Iglesian claptrap

I'm sorry? But srsly Iglesians are rather... loony.

You can say they're our version of the moonies

But with Gothic churches

[Dahon]

What do you mean: 'No he isn't'?
Whatever happened to his jet ski to the West Philippine Sea, now he's talking of an ending to the American wargames because CHINA DOESN'T LIKE IT?

He's gone way far to please the Chinese government as he has gone far in alienating Washington, but concessions to a powerful next-door neighbor to maintain peace don't automatically mean handing over sovereignty. We don't actually know what his administration is doing re: Spratlys, policy-wise. Please calm down.

How is that not the first signs of selling us to the illegal and Illegitimate Chinese Government?

Look, "illegal" and "illegitimate" mean nothing to me, or at least I've never really dwelt upon it. I mean, for one, applied in our case, all post-Marcos administrations I could view as "illegal" and "illegitimate", but really, who cares?

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Look, I don't like how the Duterte administration is trying everything it can to please the Chinese (and I'm utterly mystified as to their motives in reaching out to Putin's Russia), but realignment in itself is not grounds for... Lord Almighty, another People Power?

Jesus. Can we not stick with constitutional prerogatives and let Duterte finish his term? If what Duterte is doing with the drug situation will in effect discredit this nation's already tottering institutions, ousting him will be more of that same.



No, no he isn't. (And let's not play the ideological game, please.)

I hate this ideological shit in this thread. There's pro-US and there's f-cking pro-China. Its cancer, how about I propose a motherf-cking solution so that you stop rambling like your mom's tits.

-Partition the freaking rocks, or at least share it
(Our el Presidente should take better PH-China relations, by duking it out in a game of good 'ol negotiation. Because the Spratlys are a bunch of floating damn rocks, how about they do my self-dubbed "Berlin Solution"? Divide the islands' territory into two. On peart for the Philippines and part for China, IN EQUAL F-CKING PARTS! Or at least, make it a joint Philippine-Chinese territory, where Filipino and Chinese fishermen fish with each, for fucking peace.)

-MULTILATERALISM!
(Get over it! This ain't the f-cking 1900's! We're not f-cking American mouthpieces anymore! But I think Presidente should not just be China-friendly. Make some useful allies apart form the f-cking United States of goddamn America. Indonesia, for example.)

Doesn't mean Duterte is going China-friendly, doesn't mean HE'S SELLING THE F-CKING COUNTRY U R-----S! WE STILL NEED THE US, AND WE ALSO NEED MORE ALLIES APART FROM THE BLOODY NATION!

Point 1: No, BECAUSE in accordance with international law and the international community, CHINA HAS NO RIGHT TO CLAIM OUR TERRITORY, PERIOD.

Point 2: We do in fact help our allies like Indonesia as an example, in fact we're conducting joint military patrols to prevent certain Islamic terrorist groups from further kidnapping people, i.e. Abu Sayyaff.

Point 3: Yeah.... Why don't you tell him to shut the heck up when it comes to... Oh I don't know... Foreign relations with but not limited to:
The United States
The United Nations
The United Kingdom
The Kingdom of the Netherlands
Germany
France
Spain
Portugal
Poland
Italy
Austria
Belgium
Luxembourg
Greece
Denmark
Sweden
Finland
Ireland (the Republic of)
The Czech Republic
Hungary
Romania
Bulgaria
And Australia.
To name a few.

[Antarkreich]

Real human being? Without a doubt.

Real... hero? I'm sorry, but what?

Drug dealers are some of the most depraved people I can think of. They profit off of others' depravity, they destroy societies, and Rody's good to be cleaning them out. Of course, I'm not Filipino, so I only get the news about his 'horrible human rights violations' and when he called that Jewish ambassador a homosexual.

[Pranovia]

Both sides of this government are gong crazy by the day.

[Dahon]

>altrighter having a hard-on for a leftist

He's not the only one turned on by violence or at least the prospect of it. Here's the Dail-- I mean, Der Sturmer.

[Victoriala II]

>altrighter having a hard-on for a leftist

He's not the only one turned on by violence or at least the prospect of it. Here's the Dail-- I mean, Der Sturmer.

I could understand the gleefulness on the neo-nazi side.

But aren't we racially Üntermensch (iirc same level as Der Juden) still

[Dahon]

I could understand the gleefulness on the neo-nazi side.

But aren't we racially Üntermensch (iirc same level as Der Juden) still

I guess they're turned on by other people suffering.

[Hastiaka]

True.

I'm sorry? But srsly Iglesians are rather... loony.

You can say they're our version of the moonies

But with Gothic churches

Nope. Duterte's not the anti-Christ and We're not a ''hippy-cold-war-era-korean-unification'' cult. Secondly, you might have mistaken the ''new Zion'' thing with one of our beliefs which is that the INC is the child of Zion (Isaiah 62:11-12 NIV)(Hebrews 12:22-24 LB)(Matthew 24:3 KJV).

[Great Kauthar]

Ignore him. He fetishizes authoritarians and gets turned on by the death of so called 'degenerates'.

>altrighter having a hard-on for a leftist

The Antichrist isn't even born yet but I honestly feel the book of revelations are happening like crazy

haha hah ah ah I'm not even altright I hate them

You're... proud? Proud? What?

Ignore him. He fetishizes authoritarians and gets turned on by the death of so called 'degenerates'.

Well I AM an authoritarian/statist after all so???

[Stormwrath]

Point 3: Yeah.... Why don't you tell him to shut the heck up when it comes to... Oh I don't know... Foreign relations with but not limited to:
The United States
The United Nations
- moar Western countries -

> Assuming we consider the UN as an ally like any other nation

Seriously, the UN means every single country save for the Vatican, and not every UN member-state is our "ally" in the traditional sense. Hell the UN isn't some alliance of countries at all.

[Victoriala II]

Point 3: Yeah.... Why don't you tell him to shut the heck up when it comes to... Oh I don't know... Foreign relations with but not limited to:
The United States
The United Nations
- moar Western countries -

> Assuming we consider the UN as an ally like any other nation

Seriously, the UN means every single country save for the Vatican, and not every UN member-state is our "ally" in the traditional sense. Hell the UN isn't some alliance of countries at all.

The UN is there to make a sense of pan-human unity.

If that building in nyc is leased at some point at least they keep UNESCO and UNICEF alive those things are the reason why I'd keep UN tbh

[Devernia]

Change really is coming

*munches popcorn*

[Asigna]

So, someone from reddit did this.



I'm not sure what to make of it.

[Stormwrath]

So, someone from reddit did this.

(Image)

I'm not sure what to make of it.

Someone beat you to your Asigna canon.

[Pranovia]

So, someone from reddit did this.

(Image)

I'm not sure what to make of it.

Hahaha I saw that too lmao

[Asigna]

So, someone from reddit did this.

(Image)

I'm not sure what to make of it.

Someone beat you to your Asigna canon.

I'm abysmally indirectly flattered. In a bad way. If my canon is a prophecy, we just hope that amidst the chaos, the Philippines will end up intact, if not, a far better nation than it is today. Of course, there will be bloody costs.

[Connori Pilgrims]

I hate this ideological shit in this thread. There's pro-US and there's f-cking pro-China. Its cancer, how about I propose a motherf-cking solution so that you stop rambling like your mom's tits.

-Partition the freaking rocks, or at least share it
(Our el Presidente should take better PH-China relations, by duking it out in a game of good 'ol negotiation. Because the Spratlys are a bunch of floating damn rocks, how about they do my self-dubbed "Berlin Solution"? Divide the islands' territory into two. On peart for the Philippines and part for China, IN EQUAL F-CKING PARTS! Or at least, make it a joint Philippine-Chinese territory, where Filipino and Chinese fishermen fish with each, for fucking peace.)

Don't you think the Philippines tried already talking to China? Since 1995 the Philippines has attempted negotiation at least 19 times, and issued as many diplomatic protests every time they went and took an island or did something funny. China says there's nothing to talk about because they believe they have "indisputable sovereignty". The stupid line that we "don't talk to them" is propaganda they've issued to try and make themselves seem reasonable... and that many stupid people even in the Philippines (and even in this moron thread) have bought.

Who's going to make the Chinese share? Duterte? You? How are you going to make them share???

The only right thing you said is that we need more allies. But who's gonna trust this stupid asshole who curses his own biggest ally, is so thin-skinned about criticism, and most importantly makes decisions entirely on emotion and on impulse so often that even his own posse in the Cabinet has to contradict/"clarify" what he says?

Independent foreign policy is a joke without force to back it up. He doesn't want us to modernize and arm properly, despite his many flowery speeches he keeps sending to our troops as if he thinks we're gullible. He thinks the AFP should only focus on internal threats like stupid drug addicts or those dumb Abus. The better for China, US or whoever to control the region.

Whatever the fuck his foreign policy is, it is certainly not independent.

[Seylland]

>altrighter having a hard-on for a leftist

The Antichrist isn't even born yet but I honestly feel the book of revelations are happening like crazy

haha hah ah ah I'm not even altright I hate them

Ignore him. He fetishizes authoritarians and gets turned on by the death of so called 'degenerates'.

Well I AM an authoritarian/statist after all so???

I'm authoritarian as well and you don't see me advocating the death people. Indoctrination sure, but certainly not death.

So, someone from reddit did this.

(Image)

I'm not sure what to make of it.

Mabuhay?

You can say they're our version of the moonies

But with Gothic churches

Nope. Duterte's not the anti-Christ and We're not a ''hippy-cold-war-era-korean-unification'' cult. Secondly, you might have mistaken the ''new Zion'' thing with one of our beliefs which is that the INC is the child of Zion (Isaiah 62:11-12 NIV)(Hebrews 12:22-24 LB)(Matthew 24:3 KJV).

Sounds heretical. But continue~

I could understand the gleefulness on the neo-nazi side.

But aren't we racially Üntermensch (iirc same level as Der Juden) still

I guess they're turned on by other people suffering.

Schadenfreude can become a fetish...

Point 3: Yeah.... Why don't you tell him to shut the heck up when it comes to... Oh I don't know... Foreign relations with but not limited to:
The United States
The United Nations
- moar Western countries -

> Assuming we consider the UN as an ally like any other nation

Seriously, the UN means every single country save for the Vatican, and not every UN member-state is our "ally" in the traditional sense. Hell the UN isn't some alliance of countries at all.

At this point, Pantalleria's drivel sounds like he is willing to sellout Philippine sovreignity to the USA in a heartbeat. Not to mention a naive view on international affairs/realpolitik.

Although still arguably better than being a sellout to Sugar Daddy China.

Change really is coming

*munches popcorn*

If change smells like death, then yes, it's coming. In fact, it probably is already here.

[Valaran]

So, when Duterte says that joint military exercises are to end (since China 'does not want them'), should we be taking him at his word?

Most likely, I hope not, but most likely.
In which case I'll try to instigate and influence a People Power Revolution to get him out.

Ah - thanks (and sorry for the late reply).

So much for 'just being talk'.

[Yugoslav Memes]

Someone beat you to your Asigna canon.

I'm abysmally indirectly flattered. In a bad way. If my canon is a prophecy, we just hope that amidst the chaos, the Philippines will end up intact, if not, a far better nation than it is today. Of course, there will be bloody costs.

i now associate the fist salute with that fisting joke Zhou made a while ago

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Point 3: Yeah.... Why don't you tell him to shut the heck up when it comes to... Oh I don't know... Foreign relations with but not limited to:
The United States
The United Nations
- moar Western countries -

> Assuming we consider the UN as an ally like any other nation

Seriously, the UN means every single country save for the Vatican, and not every UN member-state is our "ally" in the traditional sense. Hell the UN isn't some alliance of countries at all.

Well technically yes, however the UN is so unrepresentative of all the countries in the World, that I simply regard them as another country itself, since it pursues its own interests, and it has its own laws, that member nations are supposed to follow.

[Victoriala II]

I'm abysmally indirectly flattered. In a bad way. If my canon is a prophecy, we just hope that amidst the chaos, the Philippines will end up intact, if not, a far better nation than it is today. Of course, there will be bloody costs.

i now associate the fist salute with that fisting joke Zhou made a while ago

High impact sexual violence

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

haha hah ah ah I'm not even altright I hate them


Well I AM an authoritarian/statist after all so???

I'm authoritarian as well and you don't see me advocating the death people. Indoctrination sure, but certainly not death.

So, someone from reddit did this.

(Image)

I'm not sure what to make of it.

Mabuhay?

Nope. Duterte's not the anti-Christ and We're not a ''hippy-cold-war-era-korean-unification'' cult. Secondly, you might have mistaken the ''new Zion'' thing with one of our beliefs which is that the INC is the child of Zion (Isaiah 62:11-12 NIV)(Hebrews 12:22-24 LB)(Matthew 24:3 KJV).

Sounds heretical. But continue~

I guess they're turned on by other people suffering.

Schadenfreude can become a fetish...

> Assuming we consider the UN as an ally like any other nation

Seriously, the UN means every single country save for the Vatican, and not every UN member-state is our "ally" in the traditional sense. Hell the UN isn't some alliance of countries at all.

At this point, Pantalleria's drivel sounds like he is willing to sellout Philippine sovreignity to the USA in a heartbeat. Not to mention a naive view on international affairs/realpolitik.

Although still arguably better than being a sellout to Sugar Daddy China.

Change really is coming

*munches popcorn*

If change smells like death, then yes, it's coming. In fact, it probably is already here.

Firstly.... WHAT THE ACTUAL HECK?
'Sellout Philippine sovereignty to the USA in a heartbeat.' What kind of statement is that?
Did you even READ Point 3? If you didn't then let me explain to you in a language you can better understand:

DUTERTE WAS ELECTED BY ABOUT 18 MILLION UNEDUCATED PEOPLE.
PHILIPPINES HAS 100 MILLION PEOPLE.
DUTERTE NOT REALLY COMPLETELY REPRESENTATIVE OF EVEN QUARTER OF TOTAL POPULATION.
DUTERTE HAS BIG LOUD MOUTH.
COUNTRIES NOT LIKE DUTERTE MOUTH.
RICH PEOPLE WHO MAKE THE MONEY COMING INTO THE COUNTRY NOT LIKE DUTERTE MOUTH.
ECONOMY DYING BECAUSE OF DUTERTE.
DUTERTE IS TRAITOR FOR NOT PROTECTING PHILIPPINE RIGHTS IN WEST PHILIPPINE SEA.
PUT TAPE ON DUTERTE MOUTH.
EVERYBODY HAPPY.

P.S.: I made it bold and in all caps to make sure you read it properly this time.