US Government Shutdown? Not any more!

[Death Metal]

I'd love to know about this Party that supports ''small'' government. Who are they?

The Norsefire party. So small it fits into a CCTV camera.

[Genivaria]

I'd love to know about this Party that supports ''small'' government. Who are they?

The Norsefire party. So small it fits into a CCTV camera.

I saw that movie just yesterday.

[Independent Republic of Not My Problem]

Call it what you want, the democrats rammed obamacare through during a brief super majority in both houses. These are the consequences.

The consequences of doing what's right for the country despite the crybabies in the GOP being obstructionist for the openly stated purpose of undermining Obama?

Yeah, fuck that line of bullshit you're spewing there.

Its so great for the American people, that the people vote the Democrats out of the House. Then the Democrats start whining about Republican's trying to kill it. Later, Congressional Democrats find out how awesome it is and cry about how it applies to them as well. Then they decide that obamacare is so great and awesome, that they grant themselves and exemption. Compared to pro-obamacare bullshit, mine's tops shelf.

[The UK in Exile]

The consequences of doing what's right for the country despite the crybabies in the GOP being obstructionist for the openly stated purpose of undermining Obama?

Yeah, fuck that line of bullshit you're spewing there.

Its so great for the American people, that the people vote the Democrats out of the House. Then the Democrats start whining about Republican's trying to kill it. Later, Congressional Democrats find out how awesome it is and cry about how it applies to them as well. Then they decide that obamacare is so great and awesome, that they grant themselves and exemption. Compared to pro-obamacare bullshit, mine's tops shelf.

The Last election saw a 3.4% swing towards the Democrats. who with some 2 million MORE votes, have 30 LESS seats.

[Abasha]

I don't want anything to do with ObamaCare, and I certainly don't want my tax money to pay for welfare fuck-ups to have healthcare. The American economy is struggling enough as is, I don't see any reason why it should have been passed in the first place. A government shutdown should be blamed on both parties as they are both too stubborn to admit that one of them is wrong. It isn't like it matters though, they are all buddy-buddy behind the scenes.

America needs a new third-party, no parties, or a whole bunch new parties to begin functioning as a democracy again. I say, why did we even let this bill get passed? ObamaCare is like Communism, it is an excellent idea and looks good on paper, but it is going to fail (like Communism).

[Genivaria]

The consequences of doing what's right for the country despite the crybabies in the GOP being obstructionist for the openly stated purpose of undermining Obama?

Yeah, fuck that line of bullshit you're spewing there.

Its so great for the American people, that the people vote the Democrats out of the House. Then the Democrats start whining about Republican's trying to kill it. Later, Congressional Democrats find out how awesome it is and cry about how it applies to them as well. Then they decide that obamacare is so great and awesome, that they grant themselves and exemption. Compared to pro-obamacare bullshit, mine's tops shelf.

So you're completely ignoring the fact that a majority of Americans support Obamacare?

[Blasveck]

I don't want anything to do with ObamaCare, and I certainly don't want my tax money to pay for welfare fuck-ups to have healthcare. The American economy is struggling enough as is, I don't see any reason why it should have been passed in the first place. A government shutdown should be blamed on both parties as they are both too stubborn to admit that one of them is wrong. It isn't like it matters though, they are all buddy-buddy behind the scenes.

America needs a new third-party, no parties, or a whole bunch new parties to begin functioning as a democracy again. I say, why did we even let this bill get passed? ObamaCare is like Communism, it is an excellent idea and looks good on paper, but it is going to fail (like Communism).

No. Just no.

Obamacare is in place so if you crash in a car accident, and you don't have health insurance, the doctors can't deny you a trip to the ER.

[Olivaero]

I don't want anything to do with ObamaCare, and I certainly don't want my tax money to pay for welfare fuck-ups to have healthcare. The American economy is struggling enough as is, I don't see any reason why it should have been passed in the first place. A government shutdown should be blamed on both parties as they are both too stubborn to admit that one of them is wrong. It isn't like it matters though, they are all buddy-buddy behind the scenes.

America needs a new third-party, no parties, or a whole bunch new parties to begin functioning as a democracy again. I say, why did we even let this bill get passed? ObamaCare is like Communism, it is an excellent idea and looks good on paper, but it is going to fail (like Communism).

You don't want anything to do with Obama care? well that's a fucking shame because a majority of Americans voted for the representatives, congress men and the executive that passed it into law. So it doesn't really fucking matter if you don't want anything to do with it. perhaps some day a majority of American's will agree with you and get a majority to repeal it. Until then It seems reasonable to ask the opposition for some fucking cooperation with the business of actually running government.

[Ashmoria]

I don't want anything to do with ObamaCare, and I certainly don't want my tax money to pay for welfare fuck-ups to have healthcare. The American economy is struggling enough as is, I don't see any reason why it should have been passed in the first place. A government shutdown should be blamed on both parties as they are both too stubborn to admit that one of them is wrong. It isn't like it matters though, they are all buddy-buddy behind the scenes.

America needs a new third-party, no parties, or a whole bunch new parties to begin functioning as a democracy again. I say, why did we even let this bill get passed? ObamaCare is like Communism, it is an excellent idea and looks good on paper, but it is going to fail (like Communism).

we passed the bill because healthcare costs were on the road to bankrupting us.

unlike you, the rest of America is unwilling to see poor people and old people die for lack of insurance. obamacare covers more people and helps to control costs. win/win.

[Death Metal]

The Norsefire party. So small it fits into a CCTV camera.

I saw that movie just yesterday.

I was talking more about the comic book version.

[Death Metal]

The consequences of doing what's right for the country despite the crybabies in the GOP being obstructionist for the openly stated purpose of undermining Obama?

Yeah, fuck that line of bullshit you're spewing there.

Its so great for the American people, that the people vote the Democrats out of the House. Then the Democrats start whining about Republican's trying to kill it. Later, Congressional Democrats find out how awesome it is and cry about how it applies to them as well. Then they decide that obamacare is so great and awesome, that they grant themselves and exemption. Compared to pro-obamacare bullshit, mine's tops shelf.

Top shelf meaning "biggest BS of them all" because, yeah, none of what you said is true.

[Ashmoria]

Its so great for the American people, that the people vote the Democrats out of the House. Then the Democrats start whining about Republican's trying to kill it. Later, Congressional Democrats find out how awesome it is and cry about how it applies to them as well. Then they decide that obamacare is so great and awesome, that they grant themselves and exemption. Compared to pro-obamacare bullshit, mine's tops shelf.

So you're completely ignoring the fact that a majority of Americans support Obamacare?

well ya know gen, most people DONT support obamacare. they support everything IN obamacare but well fewer than 50% support the bill nicknamed obamacare.

so when the exchanges start up next month people are going to start RAVING about what a great deal they are getting but ...."I got a great deal from blue cross. I don't have obamacare, obamacare sucks"

[Genivaria]

I saw that movie just yesterday.

I was talking more about the comic book version.

I don't read comics.

[Independent Republic of Not My Problem]

Its so great for the American people, that the people vote the Democrats out of the House. Then the Democrats start whining about Republican's trying to kill it. Later, Congressional Democrats find out how awesome it is and cry about how it applies to them as well. Then they decide that obamacare is so great and awesome, that they grant themselves and exemption. Compared to pro-obamacare bullshit, mine's tops shelf.

So you're completely ignoring the fact that a majority of Americans support Obamacare?

Appealing to the majority is asinine. Our current system of government is designed to represent states and regions. If they want it so bad, they can institute it where they live. But I'll be damned if I get forced into tax hikes and crap health care because someone on the other side off the country thinks it would be good for me.

I don't want anything to do with ObamaCare, and I certainly don't want my tax money to pay for welfare fuck-ups to have healthcare. The American economy is struggling enough as is, I don't see any reason why it should have been passed in the first place. A government shutdown should be blamed on both parties as they are both too stubborn to admit that one of them is wrong. It isn't like it matters though, they are all buddy-buddy behind the scenes.

America needs a new third-party, no parties, or a whole bunch new parties to begin functioning as a democracy again. I say, why did we even let this bill get passed? ObamaCare is like Communism, it is an excellent idea and looks good on paper, but it is going to fail (like Communism).

No. Just no.

Obamacare is in place so if you crash in a car accident, and you don't have health insurance, the doctors can't deny you a trip to the ER.

No, obamacare is a scam. Automobile insurance covers injuries sustained in an auto accident.

[Abasha]

I don't want anything to do with ObamaCare, and I certainly don't want my tax money to pay for welfare fuck-ups to have healthcare. The American economy is struggling enough as is, I don't see any reason why it should have been passed in the first place. A government shutdown should be blamed on both parties as they are both too stubborn to admit that one of them is wrong. It isn't like it matters though, they are all buddy-buddy behind the scenes.

America needs a new third-party, no parties, or a whole bunch new parties to begin functioning as a democracy again. I say, why did we even let this bill get passed? ObamaCare is like Communism, it is an excellent idea and looks good on paper, but it is going to fail (like Communism).

No. Just no.

Obamacare is in place so if you crash in a car accident, and you don't have health insurance, the doctors can't deny you a trip to the ER.

Right... ObamaCare is socialism at its best, it is going to bankrupt and destroy an already unstable American economy.

[Blasveck]

So you're completely ignoring the fact that a majority of Americans support Obamacare?

Appealing to the majority is asinine. Our current system of government is designed to represent states and regions. If they want it so bad, they can institute it where they live. But I'll be damned if I get forced into tax hikes and crap health care because someone on the other side off the country thinks it would be good for me.

No. Just no.

Obamacare is in place so if you crash in a car accident, and you don't have health insurance, the doctors can't deny you a trip to the ER.

No, obamacare is a scam. Automobile insurance covers injuries sustained in an auto accident.

So it's worth ruining the economy over a single bill?

Do you think it's it worth ruining the economy over a single bill?

[Sylbia]

Ah, we are at this point once more; the US government is running out of money. "it's the dem's fault!" "are you kidding? the GOP's set the nation up to fail, they were the ones in power before anyways."

If that's really the case, it is worth saying that fiscal responsibility hasn't been tremendously important to the government for a long time. It's really tough to watch the generation before me screwing people in my age group and those younger than me. as a young adult I am seeing those at my parents and grandparent's age in our nation's leadership trying to kick the can as far down the road as humanly possible, as though the United States is an eternally surviving body regardless of it's treatment.

This isn't an issue that has simply come with "Obamacare". Our leadership from the bottom up has been adding this debt up for a long time and we are fixing to see it come to a head. Either those in power will decide to act in the best interest in the country as a whole, or they will simply follow the lobbyists and fundraisers and what they want. . . The thing is though, they will only go against these campaign supporters if they get the feeling that their job is on the line. If we, as citizens, let our representatives know that what has happened is NOT okay, and that we demand as the people that they are there to represent that we must have our voices heard, then they may very well act accordingly in order to keep their position.

I do not apply the blame to either party. I feel that this is a product of years of irresponsible decisions on both sides and will either break us or it will strengthen us depending on the actions taken. I wish that party lines could be erased long enough for real change to happen but man tends to be partisan.

[Blasveck]

No. Just no.

Obamacare is in place so if you crash in a car accident, and you don't have health insurance, the doctors can't deny you a trip to the ER.

Right... ObamaCare is socialism at its best, it is going to bankrupt and destroy an already unstable American economy.

You know the other person has lost the argument when they refer to Obamacare as "socialism."

[Death Metal]

So you're completely ignoring the fact that a majority of Americans support Obamacare?

well ya know gen, most people DONT support obamacare. they support everything IN obamacare but well fewer than 50% support the bill nicknamed obamacare.

Well, that's partly because of the GOP's altering of the bill, and partly because of the GOP lying about what's in the bill. (Yes, I said lying. I've read the entire fucking thing.)

[Uiiop]

No. Just no.

Obamacare is in place so if you crash in a car accident, and you don't have health insurance, the doctors can't deny you a trip to the ER.

Right... ObamaCare is socialism at its best, it is going to bankrupt and destroy an already unstable American economy.

How is it socialist? People getting into the ER without insurance has nothing to do with workplace democracy.

[Dyakovo]

No. Just no.

Obamacare is in place so if you crash in a car accident, and you don't have health insurance, the doctors can't deny you a trip to the ER.

Right... ObamaCare is socialism at its best, it is going to bankrupt and destroy an already unstable American economy.

Got it... You don't know what socialism is, you just oppose anything Faux News calls socialism...

[Death Metal]

No. Just no.

Obamacare is in place so if you crash in a car accident, and you don't have health insurance, the doctors can't deny you a trip to the ER.

Right... ObamaCare is socialism at its best,

Except it's not socialism at all.

[Agritum]

Right... ObamaCare is socialism at its best, it is going to bankrupt and destroy an already unstable American economy.

You know the other person has lost the argument when they refer to Obamacare as "socialism."

If Obamacare is socialist, what the fuck is the Canadian Healthcare System?

[Independent Republic of Not My Problem]

So it's worth ruining the economy over a single bill?

Do you think it's it worth ruining the economy over a single bill?

Damnit, I already answered that. Yes, yes, yes. Now is keeping the bill, as you put it, worth destroying the economy?

[Dyakovo]

You know the other person has lost the argument when they refer to Obamacare as "socialism."

If Obamacare is socialist, what the fuck is the Canadian Healthcare System?

A good idea.