Ultimate Football (Soccer) Thread (2013-2014)

[Britcan]

So how exactly does this NSGFC thing work?

[Polar Islandstates]

You can put the team together, then. Player/Manager Kenny Osarius.

Less of the "Kenny", mate. I'll have you know I coach like a dutchman. My teams can't defend for shit. lol

Oh I am so the left-back for you

[KoloToure]

So how exactly does this NSGFC thing work?

IIRC last time I just said 'what position does everyone play' and we filled it on a first come first served basis.

If Os is volunteering as coach, we are beholden to his tictacs - and a breath of fresh air they will be as well.

[Yellow Yellow Red]

So how exactly does this NSGFC thing work?

IIRC last time I just said 'what position does everyone play' and we filled it on a first come first served basis.

If Os is volunteering as coach, we are beholden to his tictacs - and a breath of fresh air they will be as well.

Here's to hoping he has a change of heart and plays with a deep, defensive line and hoofs it forward

[KoloToure]

IIRC last time I just said 'what position does everyone play' and we filled it on a first come first served basis.

If Os is volunteering as coach, we are beholden to his tictacs - and a breath of fresh air they will be as well.

Here's to hoping he has a change of heart and plays with a deep, defensive line and hoofs it forward

You Bolton fan.

[Britcan]

So how exactly does this NSGFC thing work?

IIRC last time I just said 'what position does everyone play' and we filled it on a first come first served basis.

If Os is volunteering as coach, we are beholden to his tictacs - and a breath of fresh air they will be as well.

Ah, ok. I'm usually a Left Back when I play, but that's been taken so either the LM or CB position would suit me.

[KoloToure]

I suppose I should mention my position.

I'm an anything except a defensive midfielder, preferably the attacking midfield/second striker role. I'm not good at standing in of front goal, it's not fun.

[Osarius]

So you want to be Kevin Osarius instead?

Honestly, my teams do play a lot more like Keegan sides
There was a period where they would concede three goals every week; win, lose or draw. Went on for about ten games in a row.

Here's to hoping he has a change of heart and plays with a deep, defensive line and hoofs it forward

Depends on the players
I might channel Jose. He is one of my favourite managers, after all.

[Yellow Yellow Red]

Here's to hoping he has a change of heart and plays with a deep, defensive line and hoofs it forward

You Bolton fan.

If ever I start following an English club, that's on the list. West Ham, too...

But alas, my love for mountainous defenders, long balls, pacy wingers, towering strikers, and crunching tackles comes from my own youth coach who loved that sort of play. Brutish and barbaric? Maybe to some - but it's so much fun to play in that sort of system, especially for someone like me who isn't technically gifted but can tackle really well, run all day, and use some muscle. Come to think of it, I probably like that style because I'm not particularly skilled. "Heart and grit makes up for a hell of a lot" my old coach used to say. Damn right. See - any Pulis team.

[KoloToure]

So you want to be Kevin Osarius instead?

Honestly, my teams do play a lot more like Keegan sides
There was a period where they would concede three goals every week; win, lose or draw. Went on for about ten games in a row.

My dad would be pulling what little remains of his hair out.

He's not a defensive coach, really - he just views defence as the most important part of the team. 'Your best players go in defence until people start to specialise as they get older' is his general philosophy.

[KoloToure]

You Bolton fan.

If ever I start following an English club, that's on the list. West Ham, too...

But alas, my love for mountainous defenders, long balls, pacy wingers, towering strikers, and crunching tackles comes from my own youth coach who loved that sort of play. Brutish and barbaric? Maybe to some - but it's so much fun to play in that sort of system, especially for someone like me who isn't technically gifted but can tackle really well, run all day, and use some muscle. Come to think of it, I probably like that style because I'm not particularly skilled. "Heart and grit makes up for a hell of a lot" my old coach used to say. Damn right. See - any Pulis team.

I would be unhappy if Liverpool started attempting that style of play (see *shudder* Hodgeball) but for teams with the right sort of player, it's a perfectly good philosophy.

Tony Pulis should be awarded then locked away.

[Britcan]

Honestly, my teams do play a lot more like Keegan sides
There was a period where they would concede three goals every week; win, lose or draw. Went on for about ten games in a row.

My dad would be pulling what little remains of his hair out.

He's not a defensive coach, really - he just views defence as the most important part of the team. 'Your best players go in defence until people start to specialise as they get older' is his general philosophy.

Whenever I've played football it's been using the exact opposite system. The best players get shoved up front and everyone else just has to get the ball to them and stop the other team scoring.

[KoloToure]

My dad would be pulling what little remains of his hair out.

He's not a defensive coach, really - he just views defence as the most important part of the team. 'Your best players go in defence until people start to specialise as they get older' is his general philosophy.

Whenever I've played football it's been using the exact opposite system. The best players get shoved up front and everyone else just has to get the ball to them and stop the other team scoring.

I kind of agree with my dad on this one, really. I'd rather have weak attackers going up against strong defenders than the other way around, purely because of my past being a good keeper behind a weak defence against strong attackers...

In fact that whole team was so weak I often came out of goal when we were losing as a secret weapon. Or when I got bored and started dribbling past the opposition.

[Auremena]

My dad would be pulling what little remains of his hair out.

He's not a defensive coach, really - he just views defence as the most important part of the team. 'Your best players go in defence until people start to specialise as they get older' is his general philosophy.

Whenever I've played football it's been using the exact opposite system. The best players get shoved up front and everyone else just has to get the ball to them and stop the other team scoring.

Pretty much what happens, especially in the US, with a lot of youth teams.

So, if I'm keeping track right, this is who we have so far
Course it's not my job to determine the form and all.

[Britcan]

Whenever I've played football it's been using the exact opposite system. The best players get shoved up front and everyone else just has to get the ball to them and stop the other team scoring.

I kind of agree with my dad on this one, really. I'd rather have weak attackers going up against strong defenders than the other way around, purely because of my past being a good keeper behind a weak defence against strong attackers...

In fact that whole team was so weak I often came out of goal when we were losing as a secret weapon. Or when I got bored and started dribbling past the opposition.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I've never really played football outside of school or just messing around in the park with friends so there have never been many tactics present in our formations.

[KoloToure]

Whenever I've played football it's been using the exact opposite system. The best players get shoved up front and everyone else just has to get the ball to them and stop the other team scoring.

Pretty much what happens, especially in the US, with a lot of youth teams.

So, if I'm keeping track right, this is who we have so far
Course it's not my job to determine the form and all.

If it were me, http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=2m02

[Osarius]

Honestly, my teams do play a lot more like Keegan sides
There was a period where they would concede three goals every week; win, lose or draw. Went on for about ten games in a row.

My dad would be pulling what little remains of his hair out.

He's not a defensive coach, really - he just views defence as the most important part of the team. 'Your best players go in defence until people start to specialise as they get older' is his general philosophy.

Makes sense. But when I took over this team, trying to teach them how to actually defend properly was a seemingly futile exercise.
Instead I drilled three principles into them:

• If we have the ball, they can't score
• If they have the ball, we need to get it back quickly
• Always look for the space, and control it (i.e. get someone into it, with or without the ball)

This way they always looked to control the game in midfield instead (where we were stronger than most teams). They enjoyed it more, too.
Then, as they got better at attacking, they started to understand defending better (I can't explain the pride I felt when my centre forward dropped into defence once, and started instructing players to "block the channels").

They've seemingly mastered the offside trap this year. Playing half a season short on players made it a necessity, I suppose. Now opposing coaches are going berserk trying to teach their quick forwards to watch the line. It's beautiful. Most teams still play long ball tactics, and my defenders just sit a couple of yards inside their own half, and wait, lol.

[KoloToure]

My dad would be pulling what little remains of his hair out.

He's not a defensive coach, really - he just views defence as the most important part of the team. 'Your best players go in defence until people start to specialise as they get older' is his general philosophy.

Makes sense. But when I took over this team, trying to teach them how to actually defend properly was a seemingly futile exercise.
Instead I drilled three principles into them:

• If we have the ball, they can't score
• If they have the ball, we need to get it back quickly
• Always look for the space, and control it (i.e. get someone into it, with or without the ball)

This way they always looked to control the game in midfield instead (where we were stronger than most teams). They enjoyed it more, too.
Then, as they got better at attacking, they started to understand defending better (I can't explain the pride I felt when my centre forward dropped into defence once, and started instructing players to "block the channels").

They've seemingly mastered the offside trap this year. Playing half a season short on players made it a necessity, I suppose. Now opposing coaches are going berserk trying to teach their quick forwards to watch the line. It's beautiful. Most teams still play long ball tactics, and my defenders just sit a couple of yards inside their own half, and wait, lol.

Kwality.

The best team me and my dad put together had an astonishingly good back line, and they were only (mostly) 12. The left back and left winger would interchange positions on their own (mostly necessitated by the left winger's lack of fitness - he was such a graceful player, but had no stamina at all), the main CB would lead the line in perfect offside traps whilst also performing the occasional Beckenbauer impersonation and the RB was quick enough to cover anything.

And they all learned how to do this mostly by just playing with each other constantly - the kid with the most appearances that season played 51 games, and he'd missed more than a couple across the season too.

Hell, we even had one kid who was a dedicated man-marker. We'd leave him off the pitch for 5 minutes, see who the most dangerous attacker on the other team was, and then just stick this kid on him. It was beautiful to watch, the attacker would never get a sniff and be subbed off after twenty minutes, upon which time the man-marker would switch from his Italian heritage to his Brazilian roots and wreck up the place.

It's a real shame that team fell apart the year after.

[Yellow Yellow Red]

My dad would be pulling what little remains of his hair out.

He's not a defensive coach, really - he just views defence as the most important part of the team. 'Your best players go in defence until people start to specialise as they get older' is his general philosophy.

Makes sense. But when I took over this team, trying to teach them how to actually defend properly was a seemingly futile exercise.
Instead I drilled three principles into them:

• If we have the ball, they can't score
• If they have the ball, we need to get it back quickly
• Always look for the space, and control it (i.e. get someone into it, with or without the ball)

This way they always looked to control the game in midfield instead (where we were stronger than most teams). They enjoyed it more, too.
Then, as they got better at attacking, they started to understand defending better (I can't explain the pride I felt when my centre forward dropped into defence once, and started instructing players to "block the channels").

They've seemingly mastered the offside trap this year. Playing half a season short on players made it a necessity, I suppose. Now opposing coaches are going berserk trying to teach their quick forwards to watch the line. It's beautiful. Most teams still play long ball tactics, and my defenders just sit a couple of yards inside their own half, and wait, lol.

I remember reffing a team of u-12s that were crazy good at the offsides trap. I have no idea what they were saying to each other (Polish kids, and I don't speak any Polish), but my God was it impressive. They had their step-up timed perfectly. Their keeper would shout, the defenders would make a short sprint towards the halfway line, and that's all she wrote. Must have got ten or twelve offsides called in their favor.

[Kinitaria]

I can put myself forward as a RB, or failing that, a fairly ineffective CB.

[Yellow Yellow Red]

If ever I start following an English club, that's on the list. West Ham, too...

But alas, my love for mountainous defenders, long balls, pacy wingers, towering strikers, and crunching tackles comes from my own youth coach who loved that sort of play. Brutish and barbaric? Maybe to some - but it's so much fun to play in that sort of system, especially for someone like me who isn't technically gifted but can tackle really well, run all day, and use some muscle. Come to think of it, I probably like that style because I'm not particularly skilled. "Heart and grit makes up for a hell of a lot" my old coach used to say. Damn right. See - any Pulis team.

I would be unhappy if Liverpool started attempting that style of play (see *shudder* Hodgeball) but for teams with the right sort of player, it's a perfectly good philosophy.

Tony Pulis should be awarded then locked away.

It would be wasteful of some tremendous talents if Liverpool started with that. Like you said, you need the right sort of player, and maybe more importantly, the right sort of squad personality.

[Valanora]

I was a keeper whenever I played

[Kinitaria]

Jose Mourinho, Rui Faria and Ramires have been charged by the FA with various offences. Not quite sure what they can get Mourinho on - aggravated sarcasm?

[Yellow Yellow Red]

Jose Mourinho, Rui Faria and Ramires have been charged by the FA with various offences. Not quite sure what they can get Mourinho on - aggravated sarcasm?

"We, the officers and officials of the FA, find the accused, Jose Mourinho, GUILTY on the charge of being a petulant ass."

[The Blaatschapen]

Jose Mourinho, Rui Faria and Ramires have been charged by the FA with various offences. Not quite sure what they can get Mourinho on - aggravated sarcasm?

"We, the officers and officials of the FA, find the accused, Jose Mourinho, GUILTY on the charge of being a petulant ass."

And next year, they'll rescind that ruling, since Mourinho is actually quite okay.

But then the FA has experience with van Gaal