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Do you believe in the Theory of Evolution?

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No
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Postby Trivval » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:53 pm

OP is a wytch!

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Postby Vortropolis » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:54 pm

Nadkor wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:Really, people? When I was 13 I didn't know anything about evolution, and I was years away from studying any sort of real biology.

By all means tell him learning is totally rad, but let's not go crazy here.


Some of us live in places with half-decent education systems and were introduced to the concept of evolution before the age of 13...


I go to a decent education school and they do not teach evolution.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:55 pm

The De Danann Nation wrote:Do you believe in the theory of evolution?I personally feel it's become more than a theory and is solid scientific fact but wanted to see how NS users personally feel about the matter.
I don't think you understand the meaning of scientific theory, which is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses."
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6024&page=2

Using that definition as a guide, there is plenty of testable evidence that re-confirms the scientific theory of evolution, ranging from the 23rd pair of human chromosomes to archeopteryx to smaller cats having a virus that larger cats do not even though they're not that far removed on their family tree.

Now, if we apply the same laws, tests, and inferences to something like, oh let's say Creationism. We find a lot of biblical allegories for the origin of life as written by a tribe in the desert 3000 years ago and re-translated again and again and bastardized by the lingua faca of the translator over and over....and not much else beyond that.
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Postby Rudie » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:55 pm

Vortropolis wrote:I go to a decent education school and they do not teach evolution.
Would you like an introduction to it? I'm sure NSG has some recommendations for Amazon purchases.
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Postby Tubbsalot » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:55 pm

Nadkor wrote:Some of us live in places with half-decent education systems and were introduced to the concept of evolution before the age of 13...

Really? And did you understand it? I still couldn't use fractions properly when I was 13.

Either I've moved shockingly fast in the last 7 years, or you're misremembering yourself cleverer than you were.
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:55 pm

Veceria wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:I thought Cult of Evolution was outlawed as heresy by Atheist hivemind conference on Evolution.

That was the Cult of Agnostic Atheism, I think the conference is on here, somewhere ...

Oh, yea. I was getting two muddled up. When are we having hivemind conference on cult of evolution?

Vortropolis wrote:I go to a decent education school and they do not teach evolution.

Those two statements are mutually exclusive. Any half decent education will teach evolution.
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Postby Densaner » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:56 pm

The De Danann Nation wrote:Do you believe in the theory of evolution?I personally feel it's become more than a theory and is solid scientific fact but wanted to see how NS users personally feel about the matter.


Yes. The best argument in favour of evolution is the human race. We are all Homo Sapiens. However the fact that some people are black, some are white and that there are other races proves evolution is a fact.

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Postby Vortropolis » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:56 pm

Rudie wrote:
Vortropolis wrote:I go to a decent education school and they do not teach evolution.
Would you like an introduction to it? I'm sure NSG has some recommendations for Amazon purchases.


:lol:
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Postby Khadgar » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:57 pm

Nadkor wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:Really, people? When I was 13 I didn't know anything about evolution, and I was years away from studying any sort of real biology.

By all means tell him learning is totally rad, but let's not go crazy here.


Some of us live in places with half-decent education systems and were introduced to the concept of evolution before the age of 13...


Okay I'm from Indiana, and a podunk part of it, so. I understood the concept, but it wasn't covered, and we didn't even get into cellular biology until I was 14, and that's only because I took the AP class.

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Postby Veceria » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:57 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Veceria wrote:That was the Cult of Agnostic Atheism, I think the conference is on here, somewhere ...

Oh, yea. I was getting two muddled up. When are we having hivemind conference on cult of evolution?

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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:57 pm

Tubbsalot wrote:
Nadkor wrote:Some of us live in places with half-decent education systems and were introduced to the concept of evolution before the age of 13...

Really? And did you understand it? I still couldn't use fractions properly when I was 13.

Either I've moved shockingly fast in the last 7 years, or you're misremembering yourself cleverer than you were.

I was giving district level examinations in year 8 (13 years) and biology was based on evolution.
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Postby Tekania » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:58 pm

The De Danann Nation wrote:Do you believe in the theory of evolution?I personally feel it's become more than a theory and is solid scientific fact but wanted to see how NS users personally feel about the matter.


This makes no sense, all scientific theories are based on solid scientific fact.... there's no really "more" to go to.

I answer yes to this poll, btw. Theologically speaking I'm an Evolutionary Creationist.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:58 pm

Tubbsalot wrote:Really? And did you understand it? I still couldn't use fractions properly when I was 13.

...What?
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Postby Khadgar » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:58 pm

Tubbsalot wrote:
Nadkor wrote:Some of us live in places with half-decent education systems and were introduced to the concept of evolution before the age of 13...

Really? And did you understand it? I still couldn't use fractions properly when I was 13.

Either I've moved shockingly fast in the last 7 years, or you're misremembering yourself cleverer than you were.


Fractions piss me off, just some asshole too lazy to finish his equation.

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Postby Vortropolis » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:58 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Veceria wrote:That was the Cult of Agnostic Atheism, I think the conference is on here, somewhere ...

Oh, yea. I was getting two muddled up. When are we having hivemind conference on cult of evolution?

Vortropolis wrote:I go to a decent education school and they do not teach evolution.

Those two statements are mutually exclusive. Any half decent education will teach evolution.


I don't think so it's the schools choice if they teach evolution or not.
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Postby Seskany » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:59 pm

Vortropolis wrote:I go to a decent education school and they do not teach evolution.

I'm sorry, but a school that does not teach evolution is just as bad as a school that does not teach history. It's important to know where you came from and how you got here. It could tell you what problems you could still yet face, and it's vital for understanding fully the society that you live in.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:59 pm

Vortropolis wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Oh, yea. I was getting two muddled up. When are we having hivemind conference on cult of evolution?


Those two statements are mutually exclusive. Any half decent education will teach evolution.


I don't think so that's the schools choice if they teach evolution or not.

The fuck? No it isn't.
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:59 pm

Vortropolis wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Oh, yea. I was getting two muddled up. When are we having hivemind conference on cult of evolution?


Those two statements are mutually exclusive. Any half decent education will teach evolution.


I don't think so that's the schools choice if they teach evolution or not.

Do you believe that it ought to be up to the school if they teach gravity? Continental drift? Germ theory?
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Postby Rudie » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:00 pm

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:lol:
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Postby Tubbsalot » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:00 pm

Vortropolis wrote:I go to a decent education school and they do not teach evolution.

It's alright not to be teaching evolution in year 7 - which in American is probably, like, early middle school - but if they never teach evolution, you can be pretty sure they're not actually decent.

Here's the long and short of it: DNA determines what plants and animals become. If you get some DNA which helps them reproduce, that DNA will spread through the population and you'll get plants or animals which are slightly different as a result. If the DNA hurts their ability to reproduce, that DNA will stop there (or at least, it won't spread very well). Sometimes, new DNA is introduced by mutations or other genetic changes. The change of DNA over time means species change over time. That's evolution.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:01 pm

Vortropolis wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
Some of us live in places with half-decent education systems and were introduced to the concept of evolution before the age of 13...


I go to a decent education school and they do not teach evolution.

Contradiction in terms, there.
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Postby Vortropolis » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:01 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Vortropolis wrote:
I don't think so that's the schools choice if they teach evolution or not.

Do you believe that it ought to be up to the school if they teach gravity? Continental drift? Germ theory?


The point is i have gone to schools in several states and none of them taught evolution.
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Postby Tubbsalot » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:01 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:Really? And did you understand it? I still couldn't use fractions properly when I was 13.

...What?

What, what?
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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:01 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Vortropolis wrote:
I go to a decent education school and they do not teach evolution.

Contradiction in terms, there.

And irony. "A decent education school".
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:02 pm

Vortropolis wrote:I don't think so it's the schools choice if they teach evolution or not.

Sure, and we dont call those school to be decent ones for same reason why we would not call school teaching magical strings theory instead of gravity as decent one.
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