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Postby Norstal » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:17 pm

Not a pipe wrote:
Black-and-White wrote:If anything, we need more moderation to ban all the fucked up opinions of idiots.
I disagree. Sure some people may have some idiotic opinion but that is just because it is idiotic to other people and yet still it may mean something to someone enough to argument about it. If you don't like my opinion then please disagree and argue about it. I would defend your right to tell me your opinion even in case I hate it. (I think someone said something similar some quotation? Perhaps I could search Wikiquote to see if there are any quotation of relevance)

Are you saying it's wrong of the mods to ban the recent slew of white supremacist posts and posters?
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Postby Agymnum » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:17 pm

Black-and-White wrote:
Not a pipe wrote:I disagree. Sure some people may have some idiotic opinion but that is just because it is idiotic to other people and yet still it may mean something to someone enough to argument about it. If you don't like my opinion then please disagree and argue about it. I would defend your right to tell me your opinion even in case I hate it. (I think someone said something similar some quotation? Perhaps I could search Wikiquote to see if there are any quotation of relevance)


lol free speecheez, amirite?


I believe the quote you people are looking for is the following:

"I do not agree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it."

Falsely attributed to Voltaire, it was actually said by one of his close friends.
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Postby Not a pipe » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:19 pm

Black-and-White wrote:
Not a pipe wrote:I disagree. Sure some people may have some idiotic opinion but that is just because it is idiotic to other people and yet still it may mean something to someone enough to argument about it. If you don't like my opinion then please disagree and argue about it. I would defend your right to tell me your opinion even in case I hate it. (I think someone said something similar some quotation? Perhaps I could search Wikiquote to see if there are any quotation of relevance)


lol free speecheez, amirite?
Not everyone likes free speech, but I do.

Norstal wrote:Are you saying it's wrong of the mods to ban the recent slew of white supremacist posts and posters?
Well, whatever......at least, what I would do if there are too many is to merge them and the forum ought to have a merge function.

Agymnum wrote:I believe the quote you people are looking for is the following:

"I do not agree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it."

Falsely attributed to Voltaire, it was actually said by one of his close friends.
Yes, that is probably what I am looking for.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:23 pm

Norstal wrote:
Not a pipe wrote:I disagree. Sure some people may have some idiotic opinion but that is just because it is idiotic to other people and yet still it may mean something to someone enough to argument about it. If you don't like my opinion then please disagree and argue about it. I would defend your right to tell me your opinion even in case I hate it. (I think someone said something similar some quotation? Perhaps I could search Wikiquote to see if there are any quotation of relevance)

Are you saying it's wrong of the mods to ban the recent slew of white supremacist posts and posters?

Granted, the most recent ones were made by a DoS troll, so that doesn't really count.
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Postby Dyakovo » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:25 pm

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lol free speecheez, amirite?
Not everyone likes free speech, but I do.

This is a private site. There is no right to free speech here.
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Postby Agymnum » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:27 pm

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Not a pipe wrote:Not everyone likes free speech, but I do.

This is a private site. There is no right to free speech here.


I would like to think the mods maintain free speech to a point (that is, free speech but no hate speech). I understand truly free speech cannot occur here - otherwise we'd devolve into a junkie den of trolls and spammers - but I'd like to think the mods allow a reasonable amount of freedom when it comes to expressing our opinions.
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Postby Norstal » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:28 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Norstal wrote:Are you saying it's wrong of the mods to ban the recent slew of white supremacist posts and posters?

Granted, the most recent ones were made by a DoS troll, so that doesn't really count.

Well...they're all trolls.
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Postby Not a pipe » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:28 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Not a pipe wrote:Not everyone likes free speech, but I do.

This is a private site. There is no right to free speech here.
Well, yes, they can delete whatever they want including the entire site as a whole if they want to, but it doesn't necessarily mean they should!
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Postby Norstal » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:31 pm

Not a pipe wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:This is a private site. There is no right to free speech here.
Well, yes, they can delete whatever they want including the entire site as a whole if they want to, but it doesn't necessarily mean they should!

It would save them a ton of money I think.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:31 pm

Norstal wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Granted, the most recent ones were made by a DoS troll, so that doesn't really count.

Well...they're all trolls.

True. Has there ever been a racist who was able to defend his or her position WITHOUT resorting to flaming and whatnot?
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Postby Pravengria » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:31 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:Ah yes, the complain-about-teh-ebil-modz thread. Formerly a staple of the topics-you-pull-out-when-the-regular-topics-become-too-old pool, it got ruined when you-know-who, angry about how teh ebil modz locked his conversion threads and banned him when he kept posting them when the mods specifically told him not to, started a 'revolution' to bring down the 'fascist' mods and promptly spammed NSG with those threads until he was DOSed. Now that he's been gone for a long time, and I've been banned for three days, I would like to make my own complain-about-teh-ebil-modz thread, as is customary when a n00by poster gets mildly annoyed at teh ebil modz. So without further ado, my the whining begin!

1. That Annoying Ban on Gravedigging

Why? What does gravedigging do? Does it waste valuable server space? Does it make the forum look bad to censorship programs? Does it kill people? Does it lead to loads of lawsuits? Is it a sin? Did a gravedigger murder your family in cold blood?

2. Too Weak on Trolls
Just ask anyone who's been here for more than a month.I'd give examples, but...

3. Trollnaming
As you should know, flaming is banned on virtually every forum with moderators who do more than delete CP. The same is true on NS. For the most part. I have seen many people accuse people who disagree with them of being trolls, including, ironically, a probable troll. Please mods, if some asshole calls someone a troll outside of Moderation, could you just DAMN THEM TO HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY warn them?

4. Homework Questions
See no. 1.

5. Many of the mods have no sense of humor.
Seriously. This was this was the reason I banned for three days, and why many people have gotten worse.


More questionable complaints will come when I think of them.


Troll harder.

I think the mods are doing perfectly fine.
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Postby Norstal » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:35 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Norstal wrote:Well...they're all trolls.

True. Has there ever been a racist who was able to defend his or her position WITHOUT resorting to flaming and whatnot?

I guess there was Sun Aut Ex, but he was subtle more than anything.

Oh it was so hilarious. I'm not sure if you were here, but he ragequit when everyone kept pointing out that the Norwegian shooter, Anders Brevik was not Muslim.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:36 pm

Norstal wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:True. Has there ever been a racist who was able to defend his or her position WITHOUT resorting to flaming and whatnot?

I guess there was Sun Aut Ex, but he was subtle more than anything.

Oh it was so hilarious. I'm not sure if you were here, but he ragequit when everyone kept pointing out that the Norwegian shooter, Anders Brevik was not Muslim.

Probably not, no. But that must have been epic.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:38 pm

Ugh. Why do people always complain about the mods when they get banned? I've been warned and banned, that doesnt mean I go and make a thread complaining about the mods being bad at what they do.
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Postby Forsher » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:00 am

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NERVUN wrote:As far as I am aware of, we do.

I must have missed mine in the mail...


I miss that thread. The end could have gone better, admittedly.
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Postby Miss Defied » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:34 am

Norstal wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:True. Has there ever been a racist who was able to defend his or her position WITHOUT resorting to flaming and whatnot?

I guess there was Sun Aut Ex, but he was subtle more than anything.

Oh it was so hilarious. I'm not sure if you were here, but he ragequit when everyone kept pointing out that the Norwegian shooter, Anders Brevik was not Muslim.

LOL I wondered what happened to him.

Edit: how do you ragequit? Death by mod?

ON topic- the mods suck because they dont saev us from teh zombees!
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Postby Norstal » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:37 am

Miss Defied wrote:
Norstal wrote:I guess there was Sun Aut Ex, but he was subtle more than anything.

Oh it was so hilarious. I'm not sure if you were here, but he ragequit when everyone kept pointing out that the Norwegian shooter, Anders Brevik was not Muslim.

LOL I wondered what happened to him.

Edit: how do you ragequit? Death by mod?

ON topic- the mods suck because they dont saev us from teh zombees!

Nah, he just made a really dramatic post and stopped posting onwards.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:06 am

Not a pipe wrote:
SpectateSwamp wrote:Mods can manipulate the posts. And they do

One guy (littleguru) baited me. I responded and he quickly removed his post. I got Banned.
That is true they can manipulate the posts. Hopefully they shouldn't but sometime it happens.

I hope they don't get you banned on here for such things. However, this is not Channel9 but still the mods are probably capable of manipulating the posts and may do so, etc


We can't change content in a post without it being obvious that we've changed the content in a post.

I am about to go back and make a tiny edit to the post I'm quoting above. You'll notice that it subsequently carries a tagline stating 'last edited by The Archregimancy', and telling you precisely when the edit occurred.

So if we do start running around 'manipulating' posts, you'll all be able to tell - and you'll know precisely which mod did it, and when they did it.

EDIT BY REPPY: Edit line hijack!
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Postby Mussoliniopoli » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:10 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Not a pipe wrote:That is true they can manipulate the posts. Hopefully they shouldn't but sometime it happens.

I hope they don't get you banned on here for such things. However, this is not Channel9 but still the mods are probably capable of manipulating the posts and may do so, etc


We can't change content in a post without it being obvious that we've changed the content in a post.

I am about to go back and make a tiny edit to the post I'm quoting above. You'll notice that it subsequently carries a tagline stating 'last edited by The Archregimancy', and telling you precisely when the edit occurred.

So if we do start running around 'manipulating' posts, you'll all be able to tell - and you'll know precisely which mod did it, and when they did it.

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Postby Laerod » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:32 am

Norstal wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:True. Has there ever been a racist who was able to defend his or her position WITHOUT resorting to flaming and whatnot?

I guess there was Sun Aut Ex, but he was subtle more than anything.

Oh it was so hilarious. I'm not sure if you were here, but he ragequit when everyone kept pointing out that the Norwegian shooter, Anders Brevik was not Muslim.

Kievan Prussia had a long history of trolling. Hard to say if he was truly racist.

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Postby Forsher » Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:47 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Not a pipe wrote:That is true they can manipulate the posts. Hopefully they shouldn't but sometime it happens.

I hope they don't get you banned on here for such things. However, this is not Channel9 but still the mods are probably capable of manipulating the posts and may do so, etc


We can't change content in a post without it being obvious that we've changed the content in a post.

I am about to go back and make a tiny edit to the post I'm quoting above. You'll notice that it subsequently carries a tagline stating 'last edited by The Archregimancy', and telling you precisely when the edit occurred.

So if we do start running around 'manipulating' posts, you'll all be able to tell - and you'll know precisely which mod did it, and when they did it.

EDIT BY REPPY: Edit line hijack!


Say, is it possible to see what a post was like pre-edit post-edit? Because we reported this poster for something once and a subsequent edit eliminated it... still a really weird post though. All that remained was FST's and possibly another nation's "fixed" quote.
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