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Postby Condunum » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:39 am

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He wouldn't delete my post, so it made it pretty hard to not come back to this thread. If I get banned, at least my "view posts" section will be cleared and I won't see this thread there.

It's actually pretty easy. You know what you do when you see the thread? You mark it as read and *gasp* ignore it.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:41 am

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Oh Condy, I am so sorry you had to go through this. :hug:

Hang tough.

Thanks nana. You of all people know the things I've gone through so I suppose of anyone, your sympathies mean the most. It means much to me.

To everyone else I've failed to thank, thank you. The support does help a bit, but this is something that's going to take me a while.


Yes, I was aware you were struggling with some things but I had no idea this had happened.

As I told the OP once, I can't even begin to imagine what you went through, what you're going through. All I know is that my heart and my thoughts go to you, that I hope you overcome this, that you have all my support, inasmuch as I can give it, that you know how to contact me (whenever) and that I commend you on your bravery to come forward and talk about your experience. this couldn't have been easy.

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Postby Aeken » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:43 am

Condunum wrote:I'm hoping that this isn't too old to be a gravedig, I just figured this was the right place to share.

About... A month ago, I was raped. I was raped by a girl who I thought was a very good friend of mine, but I know I can't do anything about it. All I can really say is that I went to her house, we got high (and that's why I can't speak up) and then she told me I can either have sex with her or get the fuck out. Wouldn't have been a problem, but she was paying for the gas money for me to get home. So I had to comply. And now, this is the first time I've spoken up about it.

I'm so sorry it happened. Please know that I feel very upset about that, especially since it was so recent. :hug:

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Postby NERVUN » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:43 am

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Reading really isn`t your strong suit, is it.
He wouldn't delete my post, so it made it pretty hard to not come back to this thread. If I get banned, at least my "view posts" section will be cleared and I won't see this thread there.

No, no. See that's NOT how this works. You don't need me to hold your hand to obey instructions to stay out of the thread.

But since you have proven yourself incapable of that, I WILL hand hold you, kinda.

Here's your ban, *** Three day ban for failure to follow Moderator instructions ***.

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Postby Condunum » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:47 am

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Condunum wrote:Thanks nana. You of all people know the things I've gone through so I suppose of anyone, your sympathies mean the most. It means much to me.

To everyone else I've failed to thank, thank you. The support does help a bit, but this is something that's going to take me a while.


Yes, I was aware you were struggling with some things but I had no idea this had happened.

As I told the OP once, I can't even begin to imagine what you went through, what you're going through. All I know is that my heart and my thoughts go to you, that I hope you overcome this, that you have all my support, inasmuch as I can give it, that you know how to contact me (whenever) and that I commend you on your bravery to come forward and talk about your experience. this couldn't have been easy.

Much love, C. :hug:

Thanks nana. You can be certain that of anyone, you'll be who I come to if I need help. You've always been there for me and I thank you for that. :hug:
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Postby Condunum » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:49 am

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Condunum wrote:I'm hoping that this isn't too old to be a gravedig, I just figured this was the right place to share.

About... A month ago, I was raped. I was raped by a girl who I thought was a very good friend of mine, but I know I can't do anything about it. All I can really say is that I went to her house, we got high (and that's why I can't speak up) and then she told me I can either have sex with her or get the fuck out. Wouldn't have been a problem, but she was paying for the gas money for me to get home. So I had to comply. And now, this is the first time I've spoken up about it.

I'm so sorry it happened. Please know that I feel very upset about that, especially since it was so recent. :hug:

No need to feel upset, but I appreciate your sympathies.
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Postby The Republique Dardania and Gazmania » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:59 am

Condunum wrote:To everyone else I've failed to thank, thank you. The support does help a bit, but this is something that's going to take me a while.


Things as traumatic as this usually take a while when it comes to (emotionally) healing one’s self, to use the old corny saying “time heals all wounds”.
Therapists tend to be a good idea too, but I’ve always liked the saying; “you are your own best psychiatrist” –at times.
But, if you ever need to vent out about anything … you have us man. :hug:

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Postby Aeken » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:04 am

Condunum wrote:
Aeken wrote:I'm so sorry it happened. Please know that I feel very upset about that, especially since it was so recent. :hug:

No need to feel upset, but I appreciate your sympathies.

Well, it was more of a depressed feeling of upset, and after reading what happened, I had to say what I felt was needed for you.

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Postby Condunum » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:06 am

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Condunum wrote:To everyone else I've failed to thank, thank you. The support does help a bit, but this is something that's going to take me a while.


Things as traumatic as this usually take a while when it comes to (emotionally) healing one’s self, to use the old corny saying “time heals all wounds”.
Therapists tend to be a good idea too, but I’ve always liked the saying; “you are your own best psychiatrist” –at times.
But, if you ever need to vent out about anything … you have us man. :hug:

I've been on and off with a therapist. I haven't been to one for a few months, because my parents told me that they can't afford it on their insurance anymore, so I have to save up some.

Lucky me, my best friend's mom loves me and found me a therapist who chargest based on your income.
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Postby Freelanderness » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:04 pm

Condunum wrote:
The Republique Dardania and Gazmania wrote:
Things as traumatic as this usually take a while when it comes to (emotionally) healing one’s self, to use the old corny saying “time heals all wounds”.
Therapists tend to be a good idea too, but I’ve always liked the saying; “you are your own best psychiatrist” –at times.
But, if you ever need to vent out about anything … you have us man. :hug:

I've been on and off with a therapist. I haven't been to one for a few months, because my parents told me that they can't afford it on their insurance anymore, so I have to save up some.

Lucky me, my best friend's mom loves me and found me a therapist who chargest based on your income.

I'm glad about that. It can work wonders having someone to talk to :hug:
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Postby Euroslavia » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:37 pm

Condunum wrote:
The Republique Dardania and Gazmania wrote:
Things as traumatic as this usually take a while when it comes to (emotionally) healing one’s self, to use the old corny saying “time heals all wounds”.
Therapists tend to be a good idea too, but I’ve always liked the saying; “you are your own best psychiatrist” –at times.
But, if you ever need to vent out about anything … you have us man. :hug:

I've been on and off with a therapist. I haven't been to one for a few months, because my parents told me that they can't afford it on their insurance anymore, so I have to save up some.

Lucky me, my best friend's mom loves me and found me a therapist who chargest based on your income.

*hug* I know a hug doesn't really do much, all things considered with what happened, but you have a lot of people here that are concerned for you and hope that you're able to get through this in time. We're all here for you.
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Postby Northern Dominus » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:28 pm

Condunum wrote:
The Republique Dardania and Gazmania wrote:
Things as traumatic as this usually take a while when it comes to (emotionally) healing one’s self, to use the old corny saying “time heals all wounds”.
Therapists tend to be a good idea too, but I’ve always liked the saying; “you are your own best psychiatrist” –at times.
But, if you ever need to vent out about anything … you have us man. :hug:

I've been on and off with a therapist. I haven't been to one for a few months, because my parents told me that they can't afford it on their insurance anymore, so I have to save up some.

Lucky me, my best friend's mom loves me and found me a therapist who chargest based on your income.
Aaaand once more, we have an example of society systematically abusing rape victims after the fact. Insurance won't fork over money to pay for a therapist, but pills are ALWAYS an option of course...

Stay strong Condy. You're doing the right thing by seeking therapy and actually talking about it, it does wonders. The other question is will you be seeking justice for what's been done?
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Postby Condunum » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:03 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:
Condunum wrote:I've been on and off with a therapist. I haven't been to one for a few months, because my parents told me that they can't afford it on their insurance anymore, so I have to save up some.

Lucky me, my best friend's mom loves me and found me a therapist who chargest based on your income.
Aaaand once more, we have an example of society systematically abusing rape victims after the fact. Insurance won't fork over money to pay for a therapist, but pills are ALWAYS an option of course...

Stay strong Condy. You're doing the right thing by seeking therapy and actually talking about it, it does wonders. The other question is will you be seeking justice for what's been done?

I can't. It's over a month after the fact, I was high at the time and she can prove it.
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Postby Katganistan » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:12 pm

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Katganistan wrote:Did he want to? No.
Was he coerced? Yes.

It's rape.
He clearly said he was offered a choice between sex or leaving. Besides, f to m rape is not possible without outside tools. This can be logically proven too.

Imagine a man holding out a knife, arm stiff and straight out and he doesn't move at all. Then a woman rushes at the knife without warning and uses her body force to gain enough momentem to stab herself. Who is the stabber?


It can not be logically proven that there is no female to male rape because there are in fact women in prison for having done such a crime.

Your refusal to believe in reality doesn't change it a bit.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:13 pm

Condunum wrote:
Northern Dominus wrote:Aaaand once more, we have an example of society systematically abusing rape victims after the fact. Insurance won't fork over money to pay for a therapist, but pills are ALWAYS an option of course...

Stay strong Condy. You're doing the right thing by seeking therapy and actually talking about it, it does wonders. The other question is will you be seeking justice for what's been done?

I can't. It's over a month after the fact, I was high at the time and she can prove it.

Thing is, being high isn't a crime. Possession of marijuana is a crime, but not being high. :)
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Postby Condunum » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:31 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Condunum wrote:I can't. It's over a month after the fact, I was high at the time and she can prove it.

Thing is, being high isn't a crime. Possession of marijuana is a crime, but not being high. :)

Distribution most certainly is one, though.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:40 pm

I wish it didn't fucking matter...holy fucking hell. Do you know what those defense attorneys over in Ohio are saying about those football players? "Oh they were ok to do it because she didn't really say no!" Fuck that shit. No one should be above the law regardless of celebrity status when it comes to rape or any crime! Come on!

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Postby Katganistan » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:41 pm

See how fast they convict if her relatives kneecap the athletes, though.

Her relatives, not the athletes.

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:42 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:I wish it didn't fucking matter...holy fucking hell. Do you know what those defense attorneys over in Ohio are saying about those football players? "Oh they were ok to do it because she didn't really say no!" Fuck that shit. No one should be above the law regardless of celebrity status when it comes to rape or any crime! Come on!

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Here's the thing: It is rape until she says yes. That's how it works. Consent is given, not assumed, EVER.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:43 pm

Katganistan wrote:See how fast they convict if her relatives kneecap the athletes, though.

Her relatives, not the athletes.

It's disgusting to say the least.

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:08 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:People are threatening to rape a 14 year old friend of mine and posting harassing comments about it toward her. I'm mobilizing the facebook feminist community to help me get them removed, but it makes me sick to think it's even possible that people do this.

If they weren't hiding on the internet I'd be on probation for assault right now, as I'd have taken them out. I'm so pissed off.


I don't get how people think that's a good idea even when they are hiding behind their computers.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:11 pm

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While female on male rape is rarer, it is every bit as destructive. My condolences that you ended up having to go through this horrendous experience.
Yeah, I really don't think what she did to him was anywhere near as destructive as what he could have done to her. What he is describing isn't even really rape, it's more along the lines of blackmail. He claims he didnt have a choice, but there was always another way home. He just chose the easiest way to get home.


What she did is still unacceptable, and just as destructive.

Sorry you had to go through that Condy. :(
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:14 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote:Yeah, I don't see it as "small town USA". I have never heard of something similar myself, though.


Before that neither had I. I would think confidentiality would prevent that kind of thing, even if we weren't talking about rape. But to talk about funny rape stories...rape is never funny.


If he doesn't say who the people involved were, then it's not a confidentiality issue.
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Postby ThirdPrizeYoureFired » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:38 am

Condunum wrote:I'm hoping that this isn't too old to be a gravedig, I just figured this was the right place to share.

About... A month ago, I was raped. I was raped by a girl who I thought was a very good friend of mine, but I know I can't do anything about it. All I can really say is that I went to her house, we got high (and that's why I can't speak up) and then she told me I can either have sex with her or get the fuck out. Wouldn't have been a problem, but she was paying for the gas money for me to get home. So I had to comply. And now, this is the first time I've spoken up about it.

:hug: I'm really sorry this happened. It's a horrible crime and nobody should have to go through it.

I am still waiting on therapy, but I paid for crisis intervention therapy and it was amazingly helpful. If you have the ability, I would recommend it. This thread has helped me quite a bit as well. Assholes do pop in, but the mods are generally good at dealing with them. The majority of people are pretty supportive here.

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Postby Damanucus » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:30 am

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:I wish it didn't fucking matter...holy fucking hell. Do you know what those defense attorneys over in Ohio are saying about those football players? "Oh they were ok to do it because she didn't really say no!" Fuck that shit. No one should be above the law regardless of celebrity status when it comes to rape or any crime! Come on!

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Here's the thing: It is rape until she says yes. That's how it works. Consent is given, not assumed, EVER.


Additionally, if consent is retracted, then the continuation of the act after that retraction constitutes as rape. And if she hadn't consented earlier in the session, that constitutes as rape. (I know, NE, that kind of contradicts you statement, but I do somewhat think it is closer to what the case should be. Unless both parties consent, there should be no action whatsoever. It's about respecting a person's choice.)

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