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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:28 am

And I'm leftist and not an Atheist if that matters at all.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:10 am

Forster Keys wrote:And I'm leftist and not an Atheist if that matters at all.

TO THE LIONS WITH YOU!

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Postby Feert » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:15 am

I am an athiest and I have tried to keep Feert as close as possible to my own political ideals, so you tell me.

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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:15 am

Genivaria wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:And I'm leftist and not an Atheist if that matters at all.

TO THE LIONS WITH YOU!


No! The irony! It's tearing me apart!
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Postby Zebbstar » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:15 am

Johz wrote:Why are most Christians right-wing? Or at least, why are many of the vocal population of Christianity right-wing? It's a culture thing. If your friends are all atheist, there's a good chance you'll be athiest as well. If all your friends are religious, you may well end up following that religion. Particularly at the age of about seven.

The same follows for political views.



This, My friends were lets say, Very Very Strong Atheist's, I myself before I met them wasn't sure what I was

But after hanging around with them for years, I have adopted their Atheist Liberal ways, Because it just makes sense
Because I've always believed in Science & People SHOULD have the right to do what THEY want with THEIR bodies
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Postby Kalaspia-Shimarata » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:17 am

Are you serious? Because MOST right wings are conservative=beliving in God and MOST left-wings are progressives which=athiest
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:27 am

Forster Keys wrote:
Genivaria wrote:TO THE LIONS WITH YOU!


No! The irony! It's tearing me apart!

Thats the idea. :p

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Postby Norstal » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:34 am

Infinite Harmony wrote:Re. the comment: "Why people smart enough to be atheists are not smart enough to understand the free market?"

I agree with another poster here that academia has adopted a leftist and atheistic mindset in the last few decades, though it was not always this way. Leftists as a general rule tend to have a horrible understanding of economics (no offense to leftists here, just my personal understanding), and have since at least the days of Karl Marx.

Or maybe people don't support radical ideas because it can turn their life upside-down?

I mean, my economics are shitty, but there's no way I'm letting go of public police and firefighters.
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Infinite Harmony wrote:Re. the comment: "Why people smart enough to be atheists are not smart enough to understand the free market?"

I agree with another poster here that academia has adopted a leftist and atheistic mindset in the last few decades, though it was not always this way. Leftists as a general rule tend to have a horrible understanding of economics (no offense to leftists here, just my personal understanding), and have since at least the days of Karl Marx.

Or maybe people don't support radical ideas because it can turn their life upside-down?

I mean, my economics are shitty, but there's no way I'm letting go of public police and firefighters.



I'd personally get rid of Police..

I also believe in Anarchy
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Postby Yulldoon » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:39 am

Centrism all the way.

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Zebbstar wrote:
Norstal wrote:Or maybe people don't support radical ideas because it can turn their life upside-down?

I mean, my economics are shitty, but there's no way I'm letting go of public police and firefighters.



I'd personally get rid of Police..

I also believe in Anarchy

Riiiight. Well, when you convince the other 300 million people, let me know of how your beliefs are going.
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Postby Zebbstar » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:41 am

Norstal wrote:
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I'd personally get rid of Police..

I also believe in Anarchy

Riiiight. Well, when you convince the other 300 million people, let me know of how your beliefs are going.



I'm not here to push my beliefs on others

Its what I believe in

I'd would be like, you explaining to me, WHY we need a government and such
You'd get nowhere and I'd get nowhere
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Postby Idealismania » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:47 am

Amateureconomist wrote:I used to post in some atheist forum(randi,rationaskepticism,rationalia,freethought etc) and I have left all of them

Why? because the great majority of atheists there are liberals/social democrats(US sense) or far-leftists

Another thing i have noticed is: we(anarcho-capitalists/libertarians) are often treat very badly,often worse than social conservative

Why people smart enough to be atheists are not smart enough to understand the free market?


lol at people smart enough to be athiests...Sorry I find that hilarious. You're right all us religious types are purrty dumb I suppose.

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Postby Yulldoon » Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:52 am

Generalisations are the bane of mankind. Many religious people are open minded but the ones people remember are most certainly not.

I don't know and I don't know if I agree, either.

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Postby Rambhutan » Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:13 am

In my experience the generalisation is false. Perhaps it is the field I used to work in but most of the religious people I came across were what would be seen in America as extremely left wing. The Christians tended to be more of the kind that followed Jesus' message of loving other people rather than being judgemental and bigotted. They were mostly Quakers and Church of England, but even the two born-again creationists were fairly left-wing about most things. I have also known Marxist Hindus and socialist Sikhs and followers of Islam. I seem to remember Richard Dawkins is a conservative.
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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:14 am

Genivaria wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
No! The irony! It's tearing me apart!

Thats the idea. :p


You monster. Irony is the worst form of torture.
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Postby Our Lady Skye Sweetnam » Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:32 am

I'm an atheist, I'm socially left but fiscally centre-right
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Postby Alesyium » Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:57 am

I'm an Atheist, center left. I am perfectly capable of understanding the free market, I just think it's a system too open to abuse and collapse and therefore for the good of everyone its best if it is somewhat tempered by elements of control. I also think several services are best run by a system whose only directive is for it to be beneficial to the people rather than to a drive for profit. Also as far as Financial right-wingers being worse treated than social ones, well I'm afraid that's absolutely rubbish. I think most Atheist can generally stand other peoples opinions being different to them. For example I may think your (the OP) ideas are somewhat wrong but your perfectly welcome to have them. However if someone wants to literally restrict the rights of someone else being happy for no other reason than a book told them so then that's where I draw the tolerance line.

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Postby Distruzio » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:11 am

Forster Keys wrote:
Genivaria wrote:TO THE LIONS WITH YOU!


No! The irony! It's tearing me apart!


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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:12 am

Distruzio wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
No! The irony! It's tearing me apart!


Orly?


Random. :lol:

I like.
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Postby Distruzio » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:18 am

Zebbstar wrote:
Johz wrote:Why are most Christians right-wing? Or at least, why are many of the vocal population of Christianity right-wing? It's a culture thing. If your friends are all atheist, there's a good chance you'll be athiest as well. If all your friends are religious, you may well end up following that religion. Particularly at the age of about seven.

The same follows for political views.



This, My friends were lets say, Very Very Strong Atheist's, I myself before I met them wasn't sure what I was

But after hanging around with them for years, I have adopted their Atheist Liberal ways, Because it just makes sense
Because I've always believed in Science & People SHOULD have the right to do what THEY want with THEIR bodies



ALL of my closest friends are atheists. They actually calmed down once I converted. I never preached to them, nor did I invite them to church, but, one by one, each has at one time or another asked to attend services with me. They must have noticed the change in my demeanor. My best friend was even at my baptism crying out of happiness for me - she leans towards unitarian universalism but retains her extreme anti-Catholic (thanks public school!) and anti-bibliolater bias.
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Postby Vestr-Norig » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:25 am

Hmm, I think it would be more correct to say "why are most left-wingers atheists?", instead. I am left-wing (in economics), and Christian, though.
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Postby Cologno » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:49 am

Vestr-Norig wrote:Hmm, I think it would be more correct to say "why are most left-wingers atheists?".


because that is not true...
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Postby Vestr-Norig » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:20 am

Cologno wrote:
Vestr-Norig wrote:Hmm, I think it would be more correct to say "why are most left-wingers atheists?".


because that is not true...

At least most socialist parties is secular. And I do not think most atheists is left-wing, either.
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