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What is your view on homosexual rights and why?

Postby Great Anthonland » Sun May 15, 2011 9:21 pm

Tell me what you think about LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender) rights. And also explain why you hold that view.
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Postby Mosasauria » Sun May 15, 2011 9:22 pm

I would rather hear your view, instead.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Sun May 15, 2011 9:23 pm

Inb4 Farn

I like rights for the gays. They're good things.

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Postby Blargoblarg » Sun May 15, 2011 9:25 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:I like rights for the gays. They're good things.


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Postby The Corparation » Sun May 15, 2011 9:26 pm

What makes them different then the next person when it comes to basic rights? None. They should get all the rights of heterosexuals. However for marriage rights, churches should also have the right to deny marrying them. which is fine as a church isn't needed to marry.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun May 15, 2011 9:26 pm

Gay rights? What are those?

I only know of the rights that should belong to each and every person, no matter what they are racially, sexually, or religiously. Sadly, homosexuals are denied these rights in many places.

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Postby President Mathias » Sun May 15, 2011 9:26 pm

The Corparation wrote:What makes them different then the next person when it comes to basic rights? None. They should get all the rights of heterosexuals. However for marriage rights, churches should also have the right to deny marrying them. which is fine as a church isn't needed to marry.

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Postby NERVUN » Sun May 15, 2011 9:27 pm

Um... they should have them? Which rights are we talking about here anyways?
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Postby Niur » Sun May 15, 2011 9:27 pm

Every one should have every right to do anything they want as long as it doesn't force anyone else to do anything against there will or harm them. Sexuality does niether of those things, hence there is no logical reason to deny rights in that matter.
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Postby Gilthador » Sun May 15, 2011 9:29 pm

This topic has been done.

Non-straight people (the GLBTQ acronym becomes too long when everyone is included) are no different than straight people except that they have sexual attractions different than straight people (gender is different in that it is not sexual, but the same applies). There is no logical reason why society should treat them any differently.
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Postby Gilthador » Sun May 15, 2011 9:29 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:Gay rights? What are those?

I only know of the rights that should belong to each and every person, no matter what they are racially, sexually, or religiously. Sadly, homosexuals are denied these rights in many places.

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Postby Episarta » Sun May 15, 2011 9:30 pm

They should be given all the same rights as everyone else. There is no logical reason to deny them these rights. Can anyone give a good reason, one that does not invoke the name of a god or holy book or something of the sort?
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Postby Unilisia » Sun May 15, 2011 9:31 pm

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I like rights for the gays. They're good things.
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sun May 15, 2011 9:33 pm

Well... every time I hear "gay rights" I think marriage. And after reading various sources both in NSG and on the web... I've come to the conclusion that they should have marriage recognition.
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Postby Great Anthonland » Sun May 15, 2011 9:35 pm

Episarta wrote:They should be given all the same rights as everyone else. There is no logical reason to deny them these rights. Can anyone give a good reason, one that does not invoke the name of a god or holy book or something of the sort?


Exactly. I haven't found anyone who had arguments against LGBT rights that had nothing to do with religion or outdated junk science.

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Postby Glorious Norway » Sun May 15, 2011 9:37 pm

Indifference.

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Postby Roman Cilicia » Sun May 15, 2011 9:38 pm

I really don't think the West should be sucking up to them as much as it is, but on the other hand I do feel they should be afforded at least one or two rights. It's kind of a dilemma. On the one hand, giving them many rights goes against my conscience; on the other, we can't just let them be robbed or massacred with no principle of justice or retribution.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Sun May 15, 2011 9:38 pm

Lately, the gay and lesbian rights activists have gotten too focused on making the movement as heteronormative as possible, to the point of outright suppressing the points-of-view of bisexuals, transgendered persons and those who have an alternate lifestyle from the middle class, frankly conservative image the leaders of the gay and lesbian rights movement, particularly in the fight for marriage rights.

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Postby Great Anthonland » Sun May 15, 2011 9:42 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:Lately, the gay and lesbian rights activists have gotten too focused on making the movement as heteronormative as possible, to the point of outright suppressing the points-of-view of bisexuals, transgendered persons and those who have an alternate lifestyle from the middle class, frankly conservative image the leaders of the gay and lesbian rights movement, particularly in the fight for marriage rights.

How dare you not want to live your life like Leave it to Beaver? Oh well, the gay and lesbian movement doesn't have much to say for you anymore. And god help you if you're female-to-male transgendered, because no one wants you.


I do agree with you in that even LGBT rights activists can be intolerant to even other homosexual, bisexuals, and transgendered people whose views don't fit the majority. I was just asking what you thought about lgbt rights and not necessarily the movement as a whole

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Postby The Corparation » Sun May 15, 2011 9:44 pm

Roman Cilicia wrote:I really don't think the West should be sucking up to them as much as it is,

We aren't sucking up to them. They're trying unsuccessfully to suck up to most of us.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun May 15, 2011 9:46 pm

Full rights for LGBT.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun May 15, 2011 9:47 pm

Homosexual people have a right to be treated with the same common decency that everyone has a right to. Gay marriage should be legal because it is a step toward a less sexist way of thinking.
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Postby New Celisia » Sun May 15, 2011 9:48 pm

If you believe in freedom you believe in gay rights. Otherwise you are either overly religious, or you like to but into other peoples business.


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Postby The Divine Imperium » Sun May 15, 2011 9:48 pm

Homesexual's don't get rights. Their weak-willed mentalities allowed them to catch the gay.
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Postby Xarithis » Sun May 15, 2011 9:49 pm

Great Anthonland wrote:Tell me what you think about LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender) rights. And also explain why you hold that view.

I think they should have equal rights. Why should I care who does what with whom? As long as no one is forcing me to be gay or undergo a sex-change operation, it isn't my problem. Let them do as they will.
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