NASA being Unfair.

[Norstal]

*Looks at Civil War map* Umm nope, I'm pretty sure you did.

Yah 200 years ago.
Get over it noboby even thinks about the civil war anymore

Uh, yeah we do.

[Farnhamia]

Yah 200 years ago.
Get over it noboby even thinks about the civil war anymore

Uh, yeah we do.

We should drag him over to one of the Civil War threads and lock him in with the Neo-Confederates for a while.

[Zathganastan]

Yah 200 years ago.
Get over it noboby even thinks about the civil war anymore

Uh, yeah we do.

Really so the frist thing that comes to mind when you think of the south is secession.
Second what does still have to do with Shuttle topic.
Finally I'm black I don't like anything about the confederacy.

[The Corparation]

Which is part of exhibition park. The fact is that California built them so California should get one. That's fair. As for NY its just a sad fact that they can take better care of their shit then Houston does. And get more visitors.

And houstan was misson control all astronouts trained here and it was the control of space flights shifts to Houston from Cape Canaveral after launch.

Yeah and Houston has a shit record for taking care of its rockets. Pick back through the thread, its come up time and time again, that Houston isn't looking after the rockets it already has properly. Why would htye be able to handle another one when they can't handle the ones they already have?

[Divair]

Uh, yeah we do.

Really so the frist thing that comes to mind when you think of the south is secession.
Second what does still have to do with Shuttle topic.

Secession and guns.

[Hegstoria]

Uh, yeah we do.

Really so the frist thing that comes to mind when you think of the south is secession.
Second what does still have to do with Shuttle topic.
Finally I'm black I don't like anything about the confederacy.

Pretty much. That, slavery, and fried chicken. Oh and NASCAR, can't forget about NASCAR.

[Zathganastan]

Really so the frist thing that comes to mind when you think of the south is secession.
Second what does still have to do with Shuttle topic.
Finally I'm black I don't like anything about the confederacy.

Pretty much. That, slavery, and fried chicken. Oh and NASCAR, can't forget about NASCAR.

Well then try taking a trip to the real south.

[Hegstoria]

Pretty much. That, slavery, and fried chicken. Oh and NASCAR, can't forget about NASCAR.

Well then try taking a trip to the real south.

I did. Went to Virginia. Saw old Civil War stuff, old plantations that slaves worked on, a lot of fried chicken, and NASCAR.

[Grenartia]

I have to disagree that America should lead the charge (what I assume you meant by "we planted a flag it in in 1969 it officially makes it OURS").

Space is the one place we haven't destroyed with our pathetic wars and disputes.

Why not make it an international effort?

Although I do agree we need to start finding resources off-plant, or else our current living standard will be cut drastically as our resources dwindle into oblivion.

My apologies. The imperialist inside me got the upper hand for a moment. I could get behind an international effort, hell maybe it's something we need even. But I'd like the US to have a role in it beyond sending people and equipment to Russia to be shot into space. Why can't we have nice things like new space shuttles?
Anyhow, point remains: Space exploration means resources we need to continue life as we know it.

Personally, I think that space exploration should be run like mail delivery. Government-operated programs competing against privately-run programs.

[Divair]

My apologies. The imperialist inside me got the upper hand for a moment. I could get behind an international effort, hell maybe it's something we need even. But I'd like the US to have a role in it beyond sending people and equipment to Russia to be shot into space. Why can't we have nice things like new space shuttles?
Anyhow, point remains: Space exploration means resources we need to continue life as we know it.

Personally, I think that space exploration should be run like mail delivery. Government-operated programs competing against privately-run programs.

That is what they claim is happening now.

Except the government programs aren't competing, and the privately run programs aren't doing anything.

I agree, though.

[Farnhamia]

Uh, yeah we do.

Really so the frist thing that comes to mind when you think of the south is secession.
Second what does still have to do with Shuttle topic.
Finally I'm black I don't like anything about the confederacy.

Let's try this again ... I said that what with all the talk about texas seceding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas_(group), http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/15/gov-rick-perry-texas-coul_n_187490.html, to name just two), maybe NASA didn't want to put one of the retired shuttles in a place that might leave the Union (this is part of the joke) or where it might be damaged in any fighting that takes place (this is the other part of the joke). Okay?

[Czertzevania]

To OP

People who don't know the facts should not make arguments with made up ones.

So far you've claimed all or most shuttles were launched from Texas... none were.
You thought the Smithsonian was in New York.
You thought Apollo 13 made it to the moon since it's one of the more famous Apollo missions.


Not to insult your intelligence, but really now? After this kind of performance in an argument, I'm relatively surprised people still find it worthwhile to debate. I guess the NS forums are more civilized than others.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Really so the frist thing that comes to mind when you think of the south is secession.
Second what does still have to do with Shuttle topic.
Finally I'm black I don't like anything about the confederacy.

Pretty much. That, slavery, and fried chicken. Oh and NASCAR, can't forget about NASCAR.

[notamod]Can we not have this whole thread descend into another "The South seceded blah blah" thread? [/notamod]

As far as the shuttles go, I've visited Houston before and while I enjoyed my time there the facilities open to the public were disappointing at best. Giving them a shuttle will hardly improve their ability to provide an entertaining, interesting experience.

[Zathganastan]

Really so the frist thing that comes to mind when you think of the south is secession.
Second what does still have to do with Shuttle topic.
Finally I'm black I don't like anything about the confederacy.

Let's try this again ... I said that what with all the talk about texas seceding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas_(group), http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/15/gov-rick-perry-texas-coul_n_187490.html, to name just two), maybe NASA didn't want to put one of the retired shuttles in a place that might leave the Union (this is part of the joke) or where it might be damaged in any fighting that takes place (this is the other part of the joke). Okay?

Aready got the joke but I didn't think it was funny.

[Farnhamia]

Let's try this again ... I said that what with all the talk about texas seceding (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas_(group), http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/15/gov-rick-perry-texas-coul_n_187490.html, to name just two), maybe NASA didn't want to put one of the retired shuttles in a place that might leave the Union (this is part of the joke) or where it might be damaged in any fighting that takes place (this is the other part of the joke). Okay?

Aready got the joke but I didn't think it was funny.

Yeah, I guess not. Well, you can't win 'em all.

[Hegstoria]

Pretty much. That, slavery, and fried chicken. Oh and NASCAR, can't forget about NASCAR.

[notamod]Can we not have this whole thread descend into another "The South seceded blah blah" thread? [/notamod]

As far as the shuttles go, I've visited Houston before and while I enjoyed my time there the facilities open to the public were disappointing at best. Giving them a shuttle will hardly improve their ability to provide an entertaining, interesting experience.

lol Don't worry, I wanted to see how long he'd take me seriously. I'll stop.

[Grenartia]

Well then try taking a trip to the real south.

I did. Went to Virginia. Saw old Civil War stuff, old plantations that slaves worked on, a lot of fried chicken, and NASCAR.

Hey now, I take offense to that.

I definitely understand the whole slavery thing, and I can kinda understand the Civil War stuff, but hating fried chicken and NASCAR is going too damn far.

Besides, other than our world-famous Southern hospitality, we have a hell of a lot more than all that to offer. We also have cookies. And cake. And cookie cake, if you cant decide. Not to mention fishing and hunting, and a whole bunch of other awesome shit.

[Mallorea and Riva]

[notamod]Can we not have this whole thread descend into another "The South seceded blah blah" thread? [/notamod]

As far as the shuttles go, I've visited Houston before and while I enjoyed my time there the facilities open to the public were disappointing at best. Giving them a shuttle will hardly improve their ability to provide an entertaining, interesting experience.

lol Don't worry, I wanted to see how long he'd take me seriously. I'll stop.

Thank you. I don't want the moderators to have to intervene in what is otherwise an interesting topic.

[Zathganastan]

By the way why is nasa having to get rid of there mullt-millon dallar fleet any way.

[Novikov]

This is idiotic. It seems to me that Rep. Poe is just pissed about the selection process because it confirms a well-known truth in the Midwest: Nobody wants to visit Texas. Get over it, Mr. Congressman. Sure you think your state is great, but don't raise a stink just because we don't all agree with you.

[Farnhamia]

By the way why is nasa having to get rid of there mullt-millon dallar fleet any way.

The shuttles are kind of old. There's no money to build new ones and the replacement program isn't ready and won't be for years. What with the current obsession with cutting government expense, it may be decades before the US manned space program recovers, if ever it does.

[Zathganastan]

By the way why is nasa having to get rid of there mullt-millon dallar fleet any way.

The shuttles are kind of old. There's no money to build new ones and the replacement program isn't ready and won't be for years. What with the current obsession with cutting government expense, it may be decades before the US manned space program recovers, if ever it does.

So the classic were broken and need to make money out of this some how schme.

[Zirconim]

Don't put so much emphasis on the states, rather than the country. Other countries don't see Texas as the place for space exploration, just America as a whole. Sorry to burst your Texan bubble, but most people in other countries don't give a flying fuck about the difference between Texas and New York. Plus, Florida has a ton more to do with space exploration than Texas, where absolutely no shuttle was launched. And you need to stop re-emphacizing that quote. It was something a guy said, that has been distorted, and is now famous for no apparent reason other than that it was the first of it's kind. I believe this to be 100% basedon your Texan pride, because if the quote was "Seattle, we've had a problem", you wouldn't care at all about this.

[Kalysk]

Houston can go fuck itself. NASA can place the shuttles wherever it damn well pleases.

[Divair]

The shuttles are kind of old. There's no money to build new ones and the replacement program isn't ready and won't be for years. What with the current obsession with cutting government expense, it may be decades before the US manned space program recovers, if ever it does.

So the classic were broken and need to make money out of this some how schme.

I don't even... is that a proper sentence?