Forgotten Conflicts Volume 2

[Waldo followers]

do you mean the mormon war?

Same thing, innit? Although there might be another one, the one I'm thinking of was from 1857-58

yea thats what i mean just making sure
that one isnt frogotten among the mormons

[Serrland]

Same thing, innit? Although there might be another one, the one I'm thinking of was from 1857-58

yea thats what i mean just making sure
that one isnt frogotten among the mormons

But it's nothing more than a footnote in most textbooks.

[Hegstoria]

What about the Cromwellian Conquest of Ireland or the Anglo-Dutch Wars, aren't those forgotten?

The people in my Global History class last year definitely know about that bastards invasion of Ireland *chuckles* good times.

They American invasion of Siberia

[Galactic Germany]

What about the Cromwellian Conquest of Ireland or the Anglo-Dutch Wars, aren't those forgotten?

The people in my Global History class last year definitely know about that bastards invasion of Ireland *chuckles* good times.

They American invasion of Siberia

What?

[Saurisia]

You mean when the US interfered in the Russian Civil War, right?

[Hegstoria]

The people in my Global History class last year definitely know about that bastards invasion of Ireland *chuckles* good times.

What?

I presume you meant the NATO intervention in the Serbia-Bosnia war? In which case I rolled my eyes at, because it is simply a peace keeping operation, not an invasion.

[Galactic Germany]

What?

I presume you meant the NATO intervention in the Serbia-Bosnia wars? In which case I rolled my eyes at, because it is simply a peace keeping operation, not an invasion.

No i meant they American intervention in they Russian Civil war it was an expedition actually http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force_Siberia

[Hegstoria]

I presume you meant the NATO intervention in the Serbia-Bosnia wars? In which case I rolled my eyes at, because it is simply a peace keeping operation, not an invasion.

No i meant they American intervention in they Russian Civil war it was an expedition actually http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force_Siberia

Oh sorry, I just presumed you had poor English skills because you said "They" as well, I figured you had spelled Serbia wrong (I didn't really pay attention to what I was reading, tbqh). Sorry about the misunderstanding.

[Daistallia 2104]

Not all of them were draft dodgers, but the majority of the impressed sailors were British expatriots. The fact that they had become American citizens gave the US credibility. I cite eleventh grade history class from a Bulgarian history teacher. Apparently the Bulgarians have the world's best history ciriculum. There were a small number of born Americans impressed, but they were a smaller group than the British borns. The point I'm making is, however, that the war wouldn't have happened if the British weren't fighting the French.

If even 10% of the 6,000 or so sailors impressed off of US ships were actually proper US citizens (and that's quite a low ball), that's more than "a small number".

Also, having been round and round with this so many times, the whole thing tends to get abbreviated into "impressment", when that was only part of it. (Heh ) Mixed up in the "impressment" issue, when I put that up there, was the Royal Navy's stopping and boarding US flagged ships on the high seas, as well as the "neutral rights" issue. The various Orders in Council, the seizure of 6000+ US ships, and incidents like the Chesapeake Affair were all parts of the casus belli. (Note that it's more or less the same bit with the "arming the indians" as well. Bothy cases were shorthand for much more complicated issues.)

[Daistallia 2104]

Why have I heard of the Dakota War?

I know my history, I guess.

But have you heard of the soccer war?

LOL - maybe, seeing as I already brought it up as an example of one of those wars that everybody likes to bring up as an "unknown", but are actually quite well known because everybody brings them up as examples, and round and round and round.

t least the San Juan Pig War, the War of Jenken's Ear, and the Soccer War, which are all too well known for their odd names and causes.

Cod wars?
sounds like a show on the discovery channel

If there was room in my sig, I would totally sig that.

Spoiler it up, and you should be good to go.

So the British were impressing U.S. citizens working for U.S. trading companies? Well then, I'd say the U.S. was justified.

It is a bit complicated. That was one problem. There were also deserters from the Royal Navy. Also, the British had a policy that of inalienable citizenship, so that if you became a citizen of another country, you might still have obligations to the crown. Also, they basically conisdered US citizenship papers to have been forged.

The Utah War, too.

They American invasion of Siberia

Beat ya'll to those.

that one isnt frogotten among the mormons

True, dat.

They American invasion of Siberia

I presume you meant the NATO intervention in the Serbia-Bosnia war? In which case I rolled my eyes at, because it is simply a peace keeping operation, not an invasion.

Siberia is nowhere near Serbia in my atlas. How about yours?

[Hegstoria]

If there was room in my sig, I would totally sig that.

Spoiler it up, and you should be good to go.

So the British were impressing U.S. citizens working for U.S. trading companies? Well then, I'd say the U.S. was justified.

It is a bit complicated. That was one problem. There were also deserters from the Royal Navy. Also, the British had a policy that of inalienable citizenship, so that if you became a citizen of another country, you might still have obligations to the crown. Also, they basically conisdered US citizenship papers to have been forged.

Yeah I know, I was humoring the guy.

They American invasion of Siberia

I presume you meant the NATO intervention in the Serbia-Bosnia war? In which case I rolled my eyes at, because it is simply a peace keeping operation, not an invasion.

Siberia is nowhere near Serbia in my atlas. How about yours?

You missed this:

Oh sorry, I just presumed you had poor English skills because you said "They" as well, I figured you had spelled Serbia wrong (I didn't really pay attention to what I was reading, tbqh). Sorry about the misunderstanding.

[Daistallia 2104]

You missed this:

Twas too good to pass up for a little friendly ribbing.

[The Lone Alliance]

Any of the dozen of little known side campaigns of World War 2.
Anglo-Soviet Invasion of Iran, Operation Ironclad (Invasion of Vichy French Madagascar) Etc.

[Saurisia]

The initial stage of Operation Torch, where we (for a few days) had to fight the Vichy French.

[The Lone Alliance]

The initial stage of Operation Torch, where we (for a few days) had to fight the Vichy French.

I noticed how the Vichy Conflicts seemed to have been glossed over in history.

[Daistallia 2104]

Any of the dozen of little known side campaigns of World War 2.
Anglo-Soviet Invasion of Iran, Operation Ironclad (Invasion of Vichy French Madagascar) Etc.

Soviet–Japanese Border Wars - if the IJA had done better, WW II would have gone significantly differently.

[The Corparation]

The Spanish Civil war. None of my teachers has ever really mentioned it.

[Saurisia]

The initial stage of Operation Torch, where we (for a few days) had to fight the Vichy French.

I noticed how the Vichy Conflicts seemed to have been glossed over in history.

True

[Daistallia 2104]

The Spanish Civil war. None of my teachers has ever really mentioned it.

:::insert old man rant about declining education standards here:::

[Brandenburg-Altmark]

Iran-Iraq war. Almost 2 million dead, over a trillion dollars in damages, it was the most destructive war since WW2, ended in a status quo and set both countries back decades economically. Among the few wars with widespread use of chemical and biological weapons, as well.

[Saurisia]

Iran-Iraq war. Almost 2 million dead, over a trillion dollars in damages, it was the most destructive war since WW2, ended in a status quo and set both countries back decades economically. Among the few wars with widespread use of chemical and biological weapons, as well.

Oh yeah, also saw the widespread revival of WWI tactics.

[Hegstoria]

Iran-Iraq war. Almost 2 million dead, over a trillion dollars in damages, it was the most destructive war since WW2, ended in a status quo and set both countries back decades economically. Among the few wars with widespread use of chemical and biological weapons, as well.

Oh yeah, also saw the widespread revival of WWI tactics.

Lol, I specifically remember discussing that with my Global teacher last year. I always thought it was funny that it was basically WW1 but with AK's and better tanks.

[Brogavia]

One of the very first things I ever wrote on these forums was about minuscule conflicts that have been forgotten. Well, it's been over a year I think, so I feel like doing this all over again. What are some forgotten conflicts that you think are either hilarious, depressing, or generally memorable?


My choice to start this off is a war that occurred in America in the second half of the 1800's, a fight on the soil of the United States against an enemy who had come from the very same land.


I am talking, of course, about the Dakota War of 1862, a conflict in southern Minnesota that I only know about due to a history class and have never heard talked about since.

Basically, the traders on native reservations were cheating the tribes, and they decided to rebel against the state of Minnesota. The U.S. army was called in to strike them down, but hundreds of townspeople were killed by swarms of natives, causing people to move from their old homes and the largest hanging in U.S. history, when 38 natives were hanged in Mankato, Minnesota. Originally, 303 natives were to be hanged, but Abraham Lincoln pardoned many of the death sentences.


Now it is your turn, NSG! Somehow turn this in to a debate about Nazis, I dare you!

Battle that ended the Dakota uprising was fought 10-15 miles from where I live.

[Hornopolis]

No conflict is ever forgotten.

[Novistranaya]

Probably not entirely exhaustive, but I read it and had a few "really? huh, intriguing." Apparently the US has been to Korea twice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wa ... ted_States