Ban on atheism

[Lost heros]

Well you see, first someone rather educated in physics and astronomy came up with a hypothesis over the origin of the universe, than began to search for support and evidence for his hypothesis. Than, after he found a lot of support for it, other scientists began researching it and confirming it as well. Than someone completely uneducated in physics and astronomy said rather plainly something entirely irrelevant to the original hypothesis, which has since been upgraded to theory because of the evidence and support for it, and assumed that he was right.

I would like to remind you it's still a theory and some scientists disagree. I agree with the Big Bang, but you were implying all scientists.

If I did imply that, I apologize. It's absurd to think that all scientists act in some Hivemind. Nonetheless, "it's still a theory" is hardly a reason to question it.

[Neo Rome Republic]

No, seriously, why do we keep having these stupid threads?

[Immoren]

No, seriously, why do we keep having these stupid threads?

Slow newsweek Sunday.

[Liriena]

Please, do tell us more. How is atheism an example of absurdity?

How can something come from nothing? The atheist theory on how the earth came to be.

No.

[Dinake]

Yes, but not because of a part of Jewish law rendered obsolete by Christ's crucifixion.

[Liriena]

Yes, but not because of a part of Jewish law rendered obsolete by Christ's crucifixion.

Why? Why should atheism be banned?

[Centenniality]

Yawn...hm? Sorry I fell asleep when I first clicked the link, let me read here...

Hm.....hmmmm...hm....ah yes, yes....

Thats a whole load of shit, I think I lost brain cells reading that.

OP, go to the shame car and...please just...learn...I don't really wanna say it, but I think its clear that you are not intellectually honest, at the very least I think you are so ignorant it whips all the way to hilarious, and then back to unfunny because of how stupendously long the fucking ignorance reaches.

Its longer than an Alabama black snake, its larger than fucking Jupiter, it has more mass than a fucking black hole.

Like, I seriously feel like your words, broke into my brain while it was asleep, and violently murdered the shit out of some brain cells, and then fucked their corpse.

I think I speak for everyone (Well, mostly everyone) when I say that what you said was the most unintelligible garbage, in this month, hopefully in the entire year, you get awards for everything in NSHuge Box. But seriously, please, don't ever post again, until you have at least pried open a book that didn't weigh as much as a truck, wasn't bland as shit, and was not written by some dudes jacking off in the desert, wishing their goats were women, and then proceed to diddle said goats.

Yes, I know the goat fucker stereotype is overdone, I just feel that its justified, plus they are all dead, their conciseness isn't a thing, so I doubt they will be offended.

So let me say this, us Atheist are the ones that expect God to do shit for us?....Yeah no...see, in order to be an atheist, you can't be in support of any concept called God, you can be certain and affirm they/it doesn't exist or not, but you at your heart deny its existence. And if any Atheist back when they may have been religious did in fact pray to hopefully get their prayers answered...so what? A shit ton of Christians do that, they pray for you, they pray for safety, etc...Thats something Christians have perpetuated, you can't get out of that, if God wants us to handle it, then of course we would, but then why pray at all? Jesus Christ...

I think Atheist are wrong, I think it is wrong, they should read a bible, I do not want free thought.......you...will be assimilated.

Sorry OP, I'm not, joining the Borg, this night.

:Beams in a nuke while leaving, etc, etc....dun dun, dun dun dun dun!!!!:

Every Muslim knows Christians don't have any morals, they do not follow the Quaran.

They murder! - Crusades

They Steal - Pagan Holidays!

They Rape - Do we really need to go here?

Not all atheist are for abortion, and euthanasia just isn't for old people...and why is that latter one bad? If you're a good Christian shouldn't death be a bonus....especially if you're so old your bones break if you take a 3 meter step? Is it that you know your religion is a bunch of donkey shit? I doubt thats the case, I'm honest here, but seriously...

Also a fetus isn't a fully developed human being.

Do you remember when you were a fetus? Nah I'm kidding you'd say no as you should...

But here is something....the Bible...isn't evidence...if it could be used as evidence, I could use Harry Potter as evidence to support the fact that the words avada kedavra kills people.

Also again with the bible quote, how fucking good is the Bibles rod if you have to stick to using that as your only source...a pathetic one.

Oh look! A fucking contradiction!

Wow...its like you don't even fucking think about what you type!

Dammit, please tell me you're not serious, I better read a post later saying you're just fucking with us, I'll by you a 20kg something as a reward, because you blew my tired ass mind like a revolver, I'm still trying to pick up that mess.

"Trigger Warning" Above, I question the ops intellectual honesty, I insinuate the Op doesn't read or understand anything of the subject, I make fun of the Bible, and I call its writers animal fuckers...you have been warned, at the very most, I apologize if I came down to hard in questioning the OP's sincerity.

o_o

[Atomic Utopia]

How has this managed to not be locked by now?

The holistic chakra energy of the teapot has prevented it, it has ensured this thread exists time immemorial to defend against the heathenist spaghettians, go ahead and try to disprove it!

[Bolrieg]

No, seriously, why do we keep having these stupid threads?

The internet is where the darkest pits of the human mind come to the light I think is why.

[Keventle]

yes in probability you take the odds of something to happen as 50/50 (yes or no) then add variables
Im not providing evidence, Im rather explaining the illusion of why God sometimes is viewed not to exist.
He could but you would lose free will. We have free will meaning we have the choice to do things. I see him/her as a parent. Parents allow you to make choices but that isn't Omnipotent.

But a god doesn't have a 50% chance of existing before factoring relevant variables.
So you have evidence, but instead of sharing that evidence you'd rather just say "nah you're wrong"
But one of the criteria for the Abrahamic Christian God is that He is omnipotent, and by the definition of omnipotence He can do whatever He feels like. So He could fix things and maintain free will.

I did provide evidence of the illusion of why you God is not bluntly obvious. Like we can't see electrons but you believe they are there through actions or their effects. Like I do God, through science and effects. Again he can, but I see him as a parent and we are allowed to do as we wish. he would be breaking his promise if it was notice, but then it could be unnoticeable while keeping it. Meaning he/she could have done something like that all ready (that was deep).
here is an example of why it starts as 50/50.
Will you die tomorrow? Thats a 50/50 shot why? Yes or no. Now are you young or old? Crime rate in given area, medical record etc. These are all variables that change the yes or no.

[The Kokyuna Clan]

That's the point. You don't care about the context. You miss-use things to make as if you're correct. BUT, taking what some great guy say, and use it some way out of where it was, to make as if what YOU say is in the same spirit/enlightenement is bullshit. JUST bullshit. Not rethoric. Not "Art du Verbe". Just bullshit, nothing else. And, yes, that dilute the argument because the same way you can't use what some people sayed in "Les Lumières" to support communism, you can't use what Epicure sayed to support Atheism.

Alrighty, here we go.

That's the point. You don't care about the context.

For that quote, context doesn't really matter since he's not addressing a speific deity. One could use it against Islamic faith, Judeo-Christian, etc.

You miss-use things to make as if you're correct.

I did not mis-use it. I used it to give my argument depth, as stated before.

BUT, taking what some great guy say, and use it some way out of where it was, to make as if what YOU say is in the same spirit/enlightenement is bullshit.

The fuck? The grammar isn't helping your point, but from what I'm getting you're implying that I used the quote to make myself look like I'm on the level of an ancient Grrek philosopher? Because I'm definelty not.

And, yes, that dilute the argument because the same way you can't use what some people sayed in "Les Lumières" to support communism, you can't use what Epicure sayed to support Atheism.

FFS, I wasn't even using it to support Atheism, I was using it to simply make a damn point.

It was to say that God isn't really much of a God, not that he doesn't exist.

Fuck, I don't know what we're talking about anymore, since you're taking this in such a weird direction.

[Liriena]

Even if we were to ignore that source there is still a chance of God existing

How high a chance?

[Centenniality]

No, seriously, why do we keep having these stupid threads?

This thread needs to just stop. xD

[Mavorpen]

Please, do tell us more. How is atheism an example of absurdity?

How can something come from nothing? The atheist theory on how the earth came to be.

If there is nothing, what is preventing something from forming?

[Keventle]

I would like to remind you it's still a theory and some scientists disagree. I agree with the Big Bang, but you were implying all scientists.

If I did imply that, I apologize. It's absurd to think that all scientists act in some Hivemind. Nonetheless, "it's still a theory" is hardly a reason to question it.

na it's fine. I do it somthimes too. We make mistakes

[In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam]

Please, do tell us more. How is atheism an example of absurdity?

How can something come from nothing? The atheist theory on how the earth came to be.

then what about your theory? where did god come form? must have come from SOMEWHERE....

[Liriena]

How can something come from nothing? The atheist theory on how the earth came to be.

If there is nothing, what is preventing something from forming?

Furthermore, what does one mean by "nothing" and "something"?

[Scomagia]

No, seriously, why do we keep having these stupid threads?

This thread needs to just stop. xD

If you aren't enjoying the thread, why post? The derail has stopped and discussion of the topic has resumed, so there's no reason it needs to be locked.

[Liriena]

How can something come from nothing? The atheist theory on how the earth came to be.

then what about your theory? where did god come form? must have come from SOMEWHERE....

No, because special pleading!

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Yawn...hm? Sorry I fell asleep when I first clicked the link, let me read here...

Hm.....hmmmm...hm....ah yes, yes....

Thats a whole load of shit, I think I lost brain cells reading that.

OP, go to the shame car and...please just...learn...I don't really wanna say it, but I think its clear that you are not intellectually honest, at the very least I think you are so ignorant it whips all the way to hilarious, and then back to unfunny because of how stupendously long the fucking ignorance reaches.

Its longer than an Alabama black snake, its larger than fucking Jupiter, it has more mass than a fucking black hole.

Like, I seriously feel like your words, broke into my brain while it was asleep, and violently murdered the shit out of some brain cells, and then fucked their corpse.

I think I speak for everyone (Well, mostly everyone) when I say that what you said was the most unintelligible garbage, in this month, hopefully in the entire year, you get awards for everything in NSHuge Box. But seriously, please, don't ever post again, until you have at least pried open a book that didn't weigh as much as a truck, wasn't bland as shit, and was not written by some dudes jacking off in the desert, wishing their goats were women, and then proceed to diddle said goats.

Yes, I know the goat fucker stereotype is overdone, I just feel that its justified, plus they are all dead, their conciseness isn't a thing, so I doubt they will be offended.

So let me say this, us Atheist are the ones that expect God to do shit for us?....Yeah no...see, in order to be an atheist, you can't be in support of any concept called God, you can be certain and affirm they/it doesn't exist or not, but you at your heart deny its existence. And if any Atheist back when they may have been religious did in fact pray to hopefully get their prayers answered...so what? A shit ton of Christians do that, they pray for you, they pray for safety, etc...Thats something Christians have perpetuated, you can't get out of that, if God wants us to handle it, then of course we would, but then why pray at all? Jesus Christ...

I think Atheist are wrong, I think it is wrong, they should read a bible, I do not want free thought.......you...will be assimilated.

Sorry OP, I'm not, joining the Borg, this night.

:Beams in a nuke while leaving, etc, etc....dun dun, dun dun dun dun!!!!:

Every Muslim knows Christians don't have any morals, they do not follow the Quaran.

They murder! - Crusades

They Steal - Pagan Holidays!

They Rape - Do we really need to go here?

Not all atheist are for abortion, and euthanasia just isn't for old people...and why is that latter one bad? If you're a good Christian shouldn't death be a bonus....especially if you're so old your bones break if you take a 3 meter step? Is it that you know your religion is a bunch of donkey shit? I doubt thats the case, I'm honest here, but seriously...

Also a fetus isn't a fully developed human being.

Do you remember when you were a fetus? Nah I'm kidding you'd say no as you should...

But here is something....the Bible...isn't evidence...if it could be used as evidence, I could use Harry Potter as evidence to support the fact that the words avada kedavra kills people.

Also again with the bible quote, how fucking good is the Bibles rod if you have to stick to using that as your only source...a pathetic one.

Oh look! A fucking contradiction!

Wow...its like you don't even fucking think about what you type!

Dammit, please tell me you're not serious, I better read a post later saying you're just fucking with us, I'll by you a 20kg something as a reward, because you blew my tired ass mind like a revolver, I'm still trying to pick up that mess.

"Trigger Warning" Above, I question the ops intellectual honesty, I insinuate the Op doesn't read or understand anything of the subject, I make fun of the Bible, and I call its writers animal fuckers...you have been warned, at the very most, I apologize if I came down to hard in questioning the OP's sincerity.

o_o

I make a sexual reference if thats what you are referring too.

Diddle can refer to numerous acts, I don't actually think the Bibles authors were goat fuckers, but I feel its justified within my moral parameters to poke fun at people important o his faith...maybe...after such very offensive remarks...

Edit: However I would be more than willing to given an apologetic hug to anyone who was offended, so long as said person doesn't have a bad history with me.

[Martean]

Please, do tell us more. How is atheism an example of absurdity?

How can something come from nothing? The atheist theory on how the earth came to be.

It's called science.

You should try to have a bit of it

[Immoren]

How can something come from nothing? The atheist theory on how the earth came to be.

then what about your theory? where did god come form? must have come from SOMEWHERE....

It's something to do with kvantums I've read.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

The First Amendment - in this nation - restricts the federal government alone. There can be no federal ban on atheism, but states are free to do as they please, Incorporation Clause having no real effect other than a recognition on the states' part that the federal government cannot establish a national religion. States are free to be as theocratic or secularist as they and their people please.

[Nekronia]

I'm an atheist who's never had belief in God. I proportion my belief to the evidence. Science isn't a religion, it's a system for providing evidence and proving things true or false based on provable data, not providing scripture. That is why I accept scientists' proof instead of the Bible's claims since most arguments I hear for believing in religion are "Because the [holy text] said so" and "You just need to have faith". Okay, now that I have that out of the way:

Atheists can have morals. If you really need an omnipotent being looking over your shoulder that will have you be permanently tortured if he deems it in order to not murder and pillage, then you're probably a sociopath. "Mom's not looking, so I can do whatever I want!" No, that's not how it works for most atheists. Atheists can follow different philosophies, such as "everyone should work together in harmony" with communism, or "everyone should have what they earn and deserve" with meritocracy and other systems.

Not all atheists are criminals. In fact, less than 1% of people in prison right now are atheist. Even if you go with 6% of Americans being religious, that's a pretty low percentage of atheists in jail compared to other religious groups.

As for euthanasia and abortion, not all atheists are pro-choice and not all Christians are pro-life. With euthanasia, it's torture after a certain point. You're PAYING to keep someone miserable and in a living hell. As for abortion: If the condom breaks, the woman has to feel sick for months and then risk death during childbirth even though she's going to dump the baby in an orphanage (despite the orphanage/fosterhome/etc. system already starting to struggle), then said baby will likely grow up a criminal due to being stuck in poverty and needing to resort to illegal means in order to acquire enough money to live. Or, she'll keep the baby even though she's not ready for it and has a good chance of falling into poverty due to the massive expenses that raising children has. It doesn't matter if she's married or not, the baby could still sink people into poverty. Then you'd STILL have a likely criminal, AND you'd have even MORE people being dragged into poverty and misery. Then there's the whole "It doesn't even have a brain to think with, let alone feel pain" part with the majority of abortions. People aren't doing abortions and euthanasia for fun, they do it because it's not as bad as the alternative.

Also, before conception, there aren't even cells of the baby. There is literally nothing of the baby. Conception is the event of the sperm and egg combining to form the full DNA and making a new and different DNA code. Saying life starts before conception is like saying people die BEFORE they die. You are stating that life starts before life starts.

More people than Christians know that murder is bad. MOST atheists say that murder is bad, just as most Jews and other faiths do.


Also, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, etc. are all allowed and not Christian. I'm writing this presuming you're genuine and not a troll. If you are wondering why so many people are accusing you of being a troll, it's likely due to you advocating mass punishment for personal beliefs a la Soviet Russia's punishment of Christians and Muslims and so on. Or Hitler's of Judaism, I'm not entirely sure how far you want to take this. In any case, you don't sound reasonable to the largely-atheist forum here when you're thwacking people with a book they believe is about as true as Beowulf and are using it as an excuse to support policing thought and killing people.

Now, I'm going to go take some acetaminophen that was produced using science and proven to work using the scientific method. AKA Tylenol for my headache.

[Atomic Utopia]

The First Amendment - in this nation - restricts the federal government alone. There can be no federal ban on atheism, but states are free to do as they please, Incorporation Clause having no real effect other than a recognition on the states' part that the federal government cannot establish a national religion. States are free to be as theocratic or secularist as they and their people please.

For our NSers in the Peoples Republic of China I will ask this.

Since when was there a first amendment that outlined such things?