Do you think that theists would prefer to be forced to deny their their god in an oath? No, it's this sort of inequality that gives me headaches
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by Dewhurst-Narculis » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:39 am
by Dyakovo » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:40 am
Burleson wrote:How can someone effectively serve in the military without God's help? They can't, that's how.
by New Rendanska » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:41 am
by Nord Amour » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:42 am
by New Rendanska » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:44 am
Nord Amour wrote:Burleson wrote:Exactly, it's not like saying "So help me God" is going to cause you to burst into flames.
Of course not, that would be silly. But I have the oddest suspicion that if soldiers were sworn in under the name of Lord Satan, or the Tooth Fairy, you might be more concerned.
That's exactly what "So help me God" looks like to me.
by WestRedMaple » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:44 am
Burleson wrote:New Rendanska wrote:Then explain that for us. Why cant people serve without your god's help? Are men that incapable of killing eachother?
You need God's help to be successful in combat and to not be killed. Don't like that? Too bad for you because it's true whether or not you accept it.
by Dyakovo » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:45 am
by New Rendanska » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:45 am
WestRedMaple wrote:Burleson wrote:You need God's help to be successful in combat and to not be killed. Don't like that? Too bad for you because it's true whether or not you accept it.
Well then it is quite kind of this 'God' to help even nonbelievers
But if one is only succeeding because they are being helped, then that means the other is losing only because 'God' wants them to fail.
If 'God' is really helping believers and non-believers alike, and hindering believers and non-believers alike, then worshipping that 'God' doesn't really seem to be worth much
by UBS » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:47 am
by New Rendanska » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:48 am
UBS wrote:New Rendanska wrote:So you'd be fine if the government decided Rastafarianism was in and changed it to "So help me, flying spaghetti monster"?
no here is why,since this guy is an atheist,he believes that no matter what he does he won't have reprocutions when he dies,so it does not matter to him,but if you tell a christian "sware your undying loyality to buddha" he will believe his god will punish him
by Nord Amour » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:49 am
WestRedMaple wrote:Burleson wrote:You need God's help to be successful in combat and to not be killed. Don't like that? Too bad for you because it's true whether or not you accept it.
Well then it is quite kind of this 'God' to help even nonbelievers
But if one is only succeeding because they are being helped, then that means the other is losing only because 'God' wants them to fail.
If 'God' is really helping believers and non-believers alike, and hindering believers and non-believers alike, then worshipping that 'God' doesn't really seem to be worth much
by UBS » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:49 am
UBS wrote:Laerod wrote:Would you have a problem saying "Hail Satan" every time when signing something?
yeah,but thats because he is the god of fire,pain,eternal damnation,suffering,etc.also here they don't specify what god this is,hell for all we know it could be some obscure god from some obscure religion.
by Dyakovo » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:50 am
UBS wrote:New Rendanska wrote:So you'd be fine if the government decided Rastafarianism was in and changed it to "So help me, flying spaghetti monster"?
no here is why,since this guy is an atheist,he believes that no matter what he does he won't have reprocutions when he dies,so it does not matter to him,but if you tell a christian "sware your undying loyality to buddha" he will believe his god will punish him
by New Rendanska » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:51 am
Nord Amour wrote:WestRedMaple wrote:
Well then it is quite kind of this 'God' to help even nonbelievers
But if one is only succeeding because they are being helped, then that means the other is losing only because 'God' wants them to fail.
If 'God' is really helping believers and non-believers alike, and hindering believers and non-believers alike, then worshipping that 'God' doesn't really seem to be worth much
Precisely. Even if God exists, he isn't the sort of monster that I'd much like to pledge my allegiance to.
by Norstal » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:51 am
New Rendanska wrote:UBS wrote:no here is why,since this guy is an atheist,he believes that no matter what he does he won't have reprocutions when he dies,so it does not matter to him,but if you tell a christian "sware your undying loyality to buddha" he will believe his god will punish him
But his point is it's only words, so why not swear your loyalty to the spaghetti monster or Cthulu? You wont suddenly combust, right?
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by Laerod » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:52 am
UBS wrote:New Rendanska wrote:So you'd be fine if the government decided Rastafarianism was in and changed it to "So help me, flying spaghetti monster"?
no here is why,since this guy is an atheist,he believes that no matter what he does he won't have reprocutions when he dies,so it does not matter to him,but if you tell a christian "sware your undying loyality to buddha" he will believe his god will punish him
by New Rendanska » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:52 am
by Corrian » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:53 am
by Norstal » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:53 am
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New York Times wrote:No one can beat him in debates. 5/5.
IGN wrote:Literally the best game I've ever played. 10/10
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by Norstal » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:54 am
Corrian wrote:Looks like another example of us not really being "Separation of Church and State" like we repeatedly say we are when we're clearly not on a regular basis. Good to see this resolved.
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New York Times wrote:No one can beat him in debates. 5/5.
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by New Rendanska » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:54 am
by Norstal » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:55 am
Toronto Sun wrote:Best poster ever. ★★★★★
New York Times wrote:No one can beat him in debates. 5/5.
IGN wrote:Literally the best game I've ever played. 10/10
NSG Public wrote:What a fucking douchebag.
by New Rendanska » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:55 am
by Norstal » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:56 am
Toronto Sun wrote:Best poster ever. ★★★★★
New York Times wrote:No one can beat him in debates. 5/5.
IGN wrote:Literally the best game I've ever played. 10/10
NSG Public wrote:What a fucking douchebag.
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