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Durkadurkiranistan III
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Durkadurkiranistan III » Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:47 pm

lol @ forum democracy

I along with the other good and decent people of this game hope that Osiris will never conduct a free election again. May Osiris' government henceforth reflect as opposite the will of its people as possible. :hug:
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Funkadelia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Funkadelia » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:00 pm

Uh oh, someone dared to beat Cormac in an election, so now he's gonna get big brother to come beat them up!
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Klaus Devestatorie
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:00 pm

Another indictment of the perils of democracy. You should be more like Balder instead. Balder's always been more successful than you- moved out after college, got a real job, married his first girlfriend. You never finished any of those things. You're a failure and if you're not careful you'll go to prison. You need Jesus (Whale) in your life, son. Please come to church again. :(

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Sandaoguo
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Postby Sandaoguo » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:20 pm

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Another indictment of the perils of democracy.

Nah. Another indictment on trusting Cormac. :\

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Ramaeus
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Ex-Nation

Postby Ramaeus » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:24 pm

This certainly is...interesting. :blink: Not entirely sure what to make of it.
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The Almighty Jesus Whale
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Postby The Almighty Jesus Whale » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:52 pm

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Official Statement from the Pharaoh





‘A rat that is cornered will still fight.’ I used this quote when it became clear to me that the relatively civil and trustworthy election cycle was coming to a close. RiderSyl began spreading unfounded lies about me to councilors and Cormac began pushing another lie that I was a willful participant in the Gatesville Coup of July 2013.

Syl was gracious enough to decide to leave after his lie was discovered and Cormac eventually apologized. I have tried my hardest to be the person who strives to give second chances and forgive past grievances. I argued passionately for the pardons of both Cormac and Syl as well as the removal of Deshreti PNGs on members of the so called ‘Empire’. Second chances should be utilized and used to give one has all to the region that they wronged in the past.

And quite obviously, Tim Stark and Cormac Stark have spit in the face of Osiris after we were gracious enough to let them back in with open arms. They abused the trust of the region that elected Tim by a landslide in January and approved Cormac unanimously as Guardian but a month ago. They spit in the face of democracy that elected me Pharaoh a few days ago, and threw democracy to the ground and crushed it when they went directly against the will of 91% of councilors who voted against a motion to recall me from office, initiated by Cormac.

Cormac uses the excuse of ‘stability’ and ‘ending toxicity’ to justify this coup, because that’s exactly what this is and it is indefensible. Continuing to repeat the lies that I manipulated the election by changing my vote or bought votes with the offer of Hedjet spots does not make them truths. The very lies they are using to justify this coup are the same lies Cormac has been using as soon as it became clear that I would not cowtow to him and his demands.

It is time for Osiris to unshackle itself from these individuals who claim to have its ‘best interests and stability’ at heart, but in actuality care about nothing but furthering their own power over the region and further destroying the government that they themselves created to be a new leaf from the power hungry past of the KRO.

It is sickening to see these individuals fall so far, but they have played their cards and chosen to disregard the will of the people and the government of Osiris. I call upon our allies, the allies of democracy and freedom of determination to rise up against those who seek to vanquish the fire of democracy and return Osiris back to the community that calls her home.

This injustice will not stand and I will not stop fighting for my home until she is liberated.

Hold hope that the spirit of democracy and self determination hold free, for Osiris will not be subjugated again. A free Osiris was born three years ago, and that Osiris will not die.

Stay strong Osirans, for democracy will prevail.

- Jesus Whale, legally elected Pharaoh and Delegate of the Osiris Fraternal Order and Osiris


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Durkadurkiranistan III
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Durkadurkiranistan III » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:01 pm

I have received IP evidence directly linking AJW to notorious defender Benevolent Thomas. Will publish later tonight.

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Postby Waldeck-Pyrmont » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:38 pm

Wow, he strikes once more. Gonna trust him next time?
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RiderSyl
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Postby RiderSyl » Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:43 pm

I said late Monday afternoon, "I was a total jackass during the elections". I stick by that. I really was a total jackass. I'm sorry about that.
I have nothing against anyone in this. I support the Transitional Government for one main reason. Koth is part of the movement. Koth is the type of player that NS needs about 1,000 more of, and that's a conservative estimate.
I've leave the democracy vs. monarchy debate for the people that feel like getting into that stuff.

PS: I see why Cormac is the one spearheading this now. Y'all just eat it up.
PSS: lol durk
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Postby Cormactopia II » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:33 pm

The Almighty Jesus Whale wrote:This injustice will not stand and I will not stop fighting for my home until she is liberated.

Osiris is not a "she" or an "it"; Osiris is a we and an us. Osiris is not a place; Osiris is a community. It is your failure to grasp this concept, your relentless desire to exploit Osiris because you see the region as an object to control rather than a community to unite, that renders you unfit to lead the Osiran community.

What Osiris has wanted, for years, is stability and security. You offer the threat of war. Osiris has been seeking unity and a friendly, fun community atmosphere. You offer more division and infighting. Osiris wants to see an end to the toxic politicking that has occurred, on and off, for years, and most recently in your election campaign. You oppose a common sense solution that would reduce the toxicity in our politics by making them less high stakes. Osiris seeks peace. You seek power.

Despite all this, the Osiris Fraternal Order has offered to welcome you back if you will cooperate with this transition. You have, instead, called for schism and war. We would still welcome you back, if you would agree to cooperate, and in time you could run for the new head of government position we plan to establish and implement much of the agenda you claimed to want to implement, without taking the regional Delegacy. You will not accept that, though, because you crave the power of the regional Delegacy to enact not just the agenda you've made public, but the bitter, divisive, hidden agenda that underscores your statement. The Osiris Fraternal Order extended a hand of peace to you, but you call for more fighting, more pitting of Osiran against Osiran, in hopes of victory over those you perceive as your enemies and consolidation of power in your hands.

Osirans and allies of Osiris should take note that while the Osiris Fraternal Order has offered you cooperation and inclusion, you have responded with condemnation, ridicule, and repeated calls for further strife. We call for an end to that, but you promise more. The right choice is clear.
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Postby Roavin » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:46 pm

Of course, Party A accuses Party B of powergrab.
Of course, Party B accuses Party A of powergrab.
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Ainocra » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:33 am

Cormactopia II wrote:
The Almighty Jesus Whale wrote:This injustice will not stand and I will not stop fighting for my home until she is liberated.

Osiris is not a "she" or an "it"; Osiris is a we and an us. Osiris is not a place; Osiris is a community. It is your failure to grasp this concept, your relentless desire to exploit Osiris because you see the region as an object to control rather than a community to unite, that renders you unfit to lead the Osiran community.

What Osiris has wanted, for years, is stability and security. You offer the threat of war. Osiris has been seeking unity and a friendly, fun community atmosphere. You offer more division and infighting. Osiris wants to see an end to the toxic politicking that has occurred, on and off, for years, and most recently in your election campaign. You oppose a common sense solution that would reduce the toxicity in our politics by making them less high stakes. Osiris seeks peace. You seek power.

Despite all this, the Osiris Fraternal Order has offered to welcome you back if you will cooperate with this transition. You have, instead, called for schism and war. We would still welcome you back, if you would agree to cooperate, and in time you could run for the new head of government position we plan to establish and implement much of the agenda you claimed to want to implement, without taking the regional Delegacy. You will not accept that, though, because you crave the power of the regional Delegacy to enact not just the agenda you've made public, but the bitter, divisive, hidden agenda that underscores your statement. The Osiris Fraternal Order extended a hand of peace to you, but you call for more fighting, more pitting of Osiran against Osiran, in hopes of victory over those you perceive as your enemies and consolidation of power in your hands.

Osirans and allies of Osiris should take note that while the Osiris Fraternal Order has offered you cooperation and inclusion, you have responded with condemnation, ridicule, and repeated calls for further strife. We call for an end to that, but you promise more. The right choice is clear.



The electorate has spoken and they have said The Almighty Jesus Whale is the Lawfully elected Pharaoh of Osiris. If you don't like his policies then all you had to do was wait until his term was over and back a candidate whom you did agree with. Instead you and your conspirators have destabilized the lawful government of Osiris and caused far more damage to both the region and it's citizens than any other act in recent memory. You are guilty of destroying the stability and security that you claim to cherish. If you want Osiris to be secure and stable then end this farce now, leave the region, and obey the will of the electorate.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Plagentine » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:54 am

Cormactopia II wrote:
The Almighty Jesus Whale wrote:This injustice will not stand and I will not stop fighting for my home until she is liberated.

Osiris is not a "she" or an "it"; Osiris is a we and an us. Osiris is not a place; Osiris is a community. It is your failure to grasp this concept, your relentless desire to exploit Osiris because you see the region as an object to control rather than a community to unite, that renders you unfit to lead the Osiran community.

You are not the one who decides whether or not someone is fit to lead the Osiran community. That privilege falls upon the Deshret of the Osiris Fraternal Order, which has shown support for Jesus Whale in both the original election, the second election which you've forced, and the recall vote which you've no doubt forced.

What Osiris has wanted, for years, is stability and security. You offer the threat of war. Osiris has been seeking unity and a friendly, fun community atmosphere. You offer more division and infighting. Osiris wants to see an end to the toxic politicking that has occurred, on and off, for years, and most recently in your election campaign. You oppose a common sense solution that would reduce the toxicity in our politics by making them less high stakes. Osiris seeks peace. You seek power.

Osiris indeed seeks stability and security, but if you are also of the same mind then why do you insist so much on creating controversy and turbulence within the region. Do not dare go around blaming whale for the problems in the community which occurred in the past couple of weeks. He has been nothing but devoted and loyal to Osiris as guardian, and there certainly has been no turbulence due to him. On the other hand, the moment you find that your grip on a region is slipping, you go to mind-boggling lengths just to secure your own influence. Is this coup not enough evidence of that? You literally dismantled the legitimate government because you were not entirely pleased with the Pharaoh, who was elected twice by the Deshret. If the community of Osiris has chosen this candidate, and has made him legitimate, how can you still claim to have the interests of the community at heart while expelling said individual? Do you not see how ridiculous this sounds?

Funny how recently you were mocking the west pacific for legally and unanimously dissolving it's legislative body and installing a different one, because the previous one was failing to keep up activity and productivity. That entire process was completely legal, legitimate, and supported by the regional community. Why do you insist on going against lawful procedure of things, Cormac? Even when you've got nothing at stake, you seem to be persistent about it. I am genuinely asking you this, it's not meant as a snarky remark.

Despite all this, the Osiris Fraternal Order has offered to welcome you back if you will cooperate with this transition. You have, instead, called for schism and war. We would still welcome you back, if you would agree to cooperate, and in time you could run for the new head of government position we plan to establish and implement much of the agenda you claimed to want to implement, without taking the regional Delegacy. You will not accept that, though, because you crave the power of the regional Delegacy to enact not just the agenda you've made public, but the bitter, divisive, hidden agenda that underscores your statement. The Osiris Fraternal Order extended a hand of peace to you, but you call for more fighting, more pitting of Osiran against Osiran, in hopes of victory over those you perceive as your enemies and consolidation of power in your hands.

Do not offer me shit and tell me it is cake. You do not and cannot speak for the Osiris Fraternal Order. You and your fellow conspirators have effectively coup'd the legitimate and lawful government of the region, and have bypassed all laws simply because you did not feel the outcome of the recent election was satisfactory. Obviously you have done this out of interest towards Osiris, which is why you've taken liberty to go against anyone who has spoken out on this awfully veiled mockery of democracy. You talked about divisions and coups, are you so set on making that prophecy true that you yourself will will create both of those?

Osirans and allies of Osiris should take note that while the Osiris Fraternal Order has offered you cooperation and inclusion, you have responded with condemnation, ridicule, and repeated calls for further strife. We call for an end to that, but you promise more. The right choice is clear.

Osiris has not offered anyone cooperation, YOU have. You are not Osiris, you are but a small part of it. You do not have any sort of right to speak to the people or allies of Osiris on what they can or should do. Funny, it's like you are doing exactly what you've accused JW of doing. But that surely could not be the case, you have nothing but the community of Osiris at heart, after all. And do you really expect anyone to take this offer seriously? Oh yes, let us all just come back in to what will obviously be a fair and democratic environment under the supervision of cormac the grand guardian. You've literally just sabotaged the entire democratic process of the region, you surely cannot expect that such promises you make could hold any water whatsoever.

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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Drop Your Pants » Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:25 am

Durkadurkiranistan III wrote:lol @ forum democracy

I along with the other good and decent people of this game hope that Osiris will never conduct a free election again. May Osiris' government henceforth reflect as opposite the will of its people as possible. :hug:

Free elections lead to more coups, thought you'd support more coups :P
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Postby Canton Empire » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:11 am

Filthy power grab by cormac.
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Corporate Police State

Postby Wickedly evil people » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:30 am

*eats popcorn* :)
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Postby The Democratic Republic of Tomb » Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:34 am

This coup is abominable and pathetic, but what is even worse is the people behind it. Cormac, Tim, and Koth. This region trusted all of you at one point. This region forgave you numerous times (Cormac). And when the region spoke and said that they would like to elect a reasonable, consistent Pharaoh (JW) over you, Cormac, you decide to coup, acting like an immature individual. You have disregarded our State Code, our laws, and all of the work that many citizens have put into this community. You have spelt out the fact that you don't give a penny about this region, and that all you care about is your political gains. You've brought a state to Osiris where suppression, manipulation, and injustice is all that its leadership stands for.

There are no words to justify what you and your fellow conspirators have done.

I continue to recognise The Almighty Jesus Whale as the rightful Pharaoh of Osiris.

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Postby Elegarth » Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:30 am

This whole situation is hilariously depressing or depressingly funny.

Haven't I hammered again and again over the last 2 years how amazingly bafflingly incredible it is to me that people still trusts Cormac? I have no ill feelings towards him personally - no, really, I don't, he is clearly a wise manipulator and that works in politics - but he has switched sides so many times, turned around from one ieology to the other so often, and become so diametrically opposite to his own words from one day to the other, that it makes NO SENSE that so many people keep believing what he says....

Ah well. We stay out of this, guys. Internal strife is internal.

*brews coffee and gives Eli a cup, while taking some of his popcorn*

Good luck Cormac. Good luck JW. Good luck Osiris.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Jakker Loves Rawr » Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:26 am

Elegarth wrote:Ah well. We stay out of this, guys. Internal strife is internal.

I wonder if it is still considered an internal strife when foreign support has come into Osiris to endorse Tim and Cormac. :P

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Corporate Police State

Postby Wickedly evil people » Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:54 am

*passes popcorn* *sips coffee*

Who are the outsiders supporting the alleged coupmasters?
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Postby Ikania » Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:17 am

Wickedly evil people wrote:*passes popcorn* *sips coffee*

Who are the outsiders supporting the alleged coupmasters?

Seems the Red Fleet is backing them.

Always knew they were a bunch of fascists.
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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:26 am

Ikania wrote:
Wickedly evil people wrote:*passes popcorn* *sips coffee*

Who are the outsiders supporting the alleged coupmasters?

Seems the Red Fleet is backing them.

Always knew they were a bunch of fascists.


I'd like to make a clarification to correct you, Ikania.

The Red Fleet, very kindly withdrew from Osiris following a discussion between myself, Grand Admiral Writinglegend of the ERN, the Admiral Timchiland, Division-Commander Vetelo and former Leading Admiral Misley of the Admiralty Board.

I am exceedingly grateful for their willingness to cooperate and I look forward to seeing more operations between the Red Fleet, the ERN and the NPAF.
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Ikania
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Postby Ikania » Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:29 am

Well, I wasn't aware. That's good, sorry for running my mouth. I shouldn't let my bias against them get in the way of a good story. Thanks to the Red Fleet for being on the right side.
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Belschaft » Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:37 am

*sighs*

There was a time that I had sufficient force of will to make myself care about the latest coup of Osiris.... I'm fairly sure that it was in 2013.
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Postby Elegarth » Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:56 am

Wickedly evil people wrote:*passes popcorn* *sips coffee*

That's the way!

Anyway, so if Raven was able to clear there doesn't seems to be THAT particular external support, we are back to fully internal? And I'm guess both sides will start trying to gather supporters?
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