A Statement from the Delegate of Lazarus on Liberation

[Lazmac]

I did miss that somehow considering that AMOM is not a member of the New Pacific Order but was instead included in the Senate of the NLO, which was a wholly different construct, which many here have labelled as a 'sub-Senate' or colonial state. To attempt to claim that the NLO spoke for the NPO after the fact reeks of revisionism.

I make no apologies for the actions of the NPO but I do acknowledge that some parties may have made judgement errors in their associations and that this is being handled internally. That said, AMOM has not spoken on behalf of The Pacific for a very long time now and likely will not in the foreseeable future.

In his self-declaration as "Emperor" of the NLO, A mean old man referred to himself as "recently-reinstated Senator of the New Pacific Order." Are you stating that he was lying?

Something in this thread reeks of revisionism, all right. Even without AMOM's contribution, former Regent Feux couldn't have been more involved in this. Please stop trying to pretend the NPO is not responsible and isn't to be held accountable for this; you are responsible and should be held accountable.

[Pierconium]

I did miss that somehow considering that AMOM is not a member of the New Pacific Order but was instead included in the Senate of the NLO, which was a wholly different construct, which many here have labelled as a 'sub-Senate' or colonial state. To attempt to claim that the NLO spoke for the NPO after the fact reeks of revisionism.

I make no apologies for the actions of the NPO but I do acknowledge that some parties may have made judgement errors in their associations and that this is being handled internally. That said, AMOM has not spoken on behalf of The Pacific for a very long time now and likely will not in the foreseeable future.

In his self-declaration as "Emperor" of the NLO, A mean old man referred to himself as "recently-reinstated Senator of the New Pacific Order." Are you stating that he was lying?

Something in this thread reeks of revisionism, all right. Even without AMOM's contribution, former Regent Feux couldn't have been more involved in this. Please stop trying to pretend the NPO is not responsible and isn't to be held accountable for this; you are responsible and should be held accountable.

Yes, I am stating that he was lying.

[Lazmac]

In his self-declaration as "Emperor" of the NLO, A mean old man referred to himself as "recently-reinstated Senator of the New Pacific Order." Are you stating that he was lying?

Something in this thread reeks of revisionism, all right. Even without AMOM's contribution, former Regent Feux couldn't have been more involved in this. Please stop trying to pretend the NPO is not responsible and isn't to be held accountable for this; you are responsible and should be held accountable.

Yes, I am stating that he was lying.

And I am stating that I don't believe you, and neither should anyone else. Nobody should buy this laughable attempt at revisionism that is being undertaken to try to restore the credibility that the NPO voluntarily threw away in pursuit of colonialism. The NPO is a rogue, tyrannical regime that committed an act of imperialist aggression against Lazarus, led by AMOM on your behalf, and it should be treated as such by the interregional community.

[Pierconium]

Yes, I am stating that he was lying.

And I am stating that I don't believe you, and neither should anyone else. Nobody should buy this laughable attempt at revisionism that is being undertaken to try to restore the credibility that the NPO voluntarily threw away in pursuit of colonialism. The NPO is a rogue, tyrannical regime that committed an act of imperialist aggression against Lazarus, led by AMOM on your behalf, and it should be treated as such by the interregional community.

I believe you will find that I do not care if you believe me.

The simple fact is that AMOM has not been reinstated into the Pacific Senate and that any statements that he made claiming otherwise were a lie, or were based upon some presumption of a promise made by former-Senator Feux. Either way, he was not speaking on behalf of the NPO at any point in time.

AMOM and his associations with forum destroyers were not approved by the Pacific Senate or the Emperor at any point. AMOM has since been banned from The Pacific boards and will remain so for the foreseeable future. No revisionism needs to take place. The NPO is not attempting to sidestep blame for anything, we simply want to be clear that certain statements made on our behalf are incorrect. I have already acknowledged personally in other threads that the PRL and NLO were NPO constructs from the onset. The implementation and ultimate realization of those endeavors however have led to some internal disagreement within the NPO, which is currently being handled.

I would not have conducted this campaign in the manner in which it unfolded on many different levels and as of right now, outside of the Emperor himself, I am the only voice on the issue that matters.

[Matkesune]

I'd love to hear from Feux, who orchestrated most of the NPO's operations in regards to the NLO post-coup.

[Lazarussian Campinia]

I'd love to hear from Feux, who orchestrated most of the NPO's operations in regards to the NLO post-coup.

*Who is now said to have orchestrated most of the NPO's operations in regards to the NLO post-coup.

[Elegarth]

I'd love to hear from Feux, who orchestrated most of the NPO's operations in regards to the NLO post-coup.

*Who is now said to have orchestrated most of the NPO's operations in regards to the NLO post-coup.

Eh, he actually did, is the reason why I left the Senate, my opposition to him became unsustainable.

[Drakezia]

So, for the lesser knowledgable, whats going on?

[Evil Lord Sauron]

So, for the lesser knowledgable, whats going on?

AMOM and Feux went rogue I'm guessing along with Stujenske, created the NLO and have been fired as a result.

[Sovreignry]

So, for the lesser knowledgable, whats going on?

AMOM and Feux went rogue I'm guessing along with Stujenske and have been fired as a result.

"Went rogue" only according to the NPO, who have a vested interest in not being outed as GCR imperialists bent on GCR Hegemony.

[Mallorea and Riva]

So, for the lesser knowledgable, whats going on?

AMOM and Feux went rogue I'm guessing along with Stujenske and have been fired as a result.

I don't think they went rogue. They lost, and the penalty for losing is harsh.

[Evil Lord Sauron]

AMOM and Feux went rogue I'm guessing along with Stujenske and have been fired as a result.

"Went rogue" only according to the NPO, who have a vested interest in not being outed as GCR imperialists bent on GCR Hegemony.

Stick to the party line!

[Drakezia]

Wow. That sure is something

[Sovreignry]

"Went rogue" only according to the NPO, who have a vested interest in not being outed as GCR imperialists bent on GCR Hegemony.

Stick to the party line!

Uh...

*looks at voter registration*

Abortion is bad, the free market solves all?

That doesn't sound right here.

[Punk Daddy]

AMOM was lying.

Now that is interesting.

If this is true and the NPO weren't behind this (stop laughing people) then will the NPO be issuing any statements about what happened in Lazarus.

[Pierconium]

AMOM was lying.

Now that is interesting.

If this is true and the NPO weren't behind this (stop laughing people) then will the NPO be issuing any statements about what happened in Lazarus.

The Pacific Senate is still in discussion at present.

Some parties have already been approached privately and if we decide to make an official announcement either myself or the Emperor will do so within the next day or so.

[Tim Stark]

Good stuff. Cheers to.you, Comrade Kazmr.

[Belschaft]

This is entirely unsurprising and quite in keeping with the historic actions of the NPO; whenever one of their ill considered foreign adventures fails the Senator's involved are thrown under the bus and disavowed in the hope that the wider GP community will accept their scalps rather than isolating The Pacific. Krull of course pleads ignorance, which is somewhat believable due to his questionable activity.

One can only hope that this time the inter-regional community will finally recognize the NPO's pattern of behavior and firmly ostracize the regime and make it's members PNG, so that the NPO can no longer infiltrate and subvert other regions for their own objectives.

[Morndul]

Congratulations Lazarenes.

[Pierconium]

This is entirely unsurprising and quite in keeping with the historic actions of the NPO; whenever one of their ill considered foreign adventures fails the Senator's involved are thrown under the bus and disavowed in the hope that the wider GP community will accept their scalps rather than isolating The Pacific. Krull of course pleads ignorance, which is somewhat believable due to his questionable activity.

One can only hope that this time the inter-regional community will finally recognize the NPO's pattern of behavior and firmly ostracize the regime and make it's members PNG, so that the NPO can no longer infiltrate and subvert other regions for their own objectives.

This is a somewhat general statement. The NPO has not stated it had no involvement in Lazarus, just that certain parties claiming to speak for the NPO were out of line and that certain political mistakes have been made that are being addressed internally.

[Belschaft]

This is entirely unsurprising and quite in keeping with the historic actions of the NPO; whenever one of their ill considered foreign adventures fails the Senator's involved are thrown under the bus and disavowed in the hope that the wider GP community will accept their scalps rather than isolating The Pacific. Krull of course pleads ignorance, which is somewhat believable due to his questionable activity.

One can only hope that this time the inter-regional community will finally recognize the NPO's pattern of behavior and firmly ostracize the regime and make it's members PNG, so that the NPO can no longer infiltrate and subvert other regions for their own objectives.

This is a somewhat general statement. The NPO has not stated it had no involvement in Lazarus, just that certain parties claiming to speak for the NPO were out of line and that certain political mistakes have been made that are being addressed internally.

How coincidental that the NPO only reveals such after the NLO is ousted.

NOT.

[Southern Bellz]

Ah the classic throw the senators under the bus and back peddle when everything goes horribly wrong maneuver. Haven't seen this one since Gaspo.

[Kazmr]

This is entirely unsurprising and quite in keeping with the historic actions of the NPO; whenever one of their ill considered foreign adventures fails the Senator's involved are thrown under the bus and disavowed in the hope that the wider GP community will accept their scalps rather than isolating The Pacific. Krull of course pleads ignorance, which is somewhat believable due to his questionable activity.

One can only hope that this time the inter-regional community will finally recognize the NPO's pattern of behavior and firmly ostracize the regime and make it's members PNG, so that the NPO can no longer infiltrate and subvert other regions for their own objectives.

This is a somewhat general statement. The NPO has not stated it had no involvement in Lazarus, just that certain parties claiming to speak for the NPO were out of line and that certain political mistakes have been made that are being addressed internally.

Feux did not speak for the NPO while he was regent? Using his admin powers on the NPO forum to set up the infrastructure for the NLO state? Helping to pull in pilers from the NPO's CN branch? That's quite a lot of baggage to wait until after the NLO was ousted to address...

[SaladIcebergJunior]

This is a somewhat general statement. The NPO has not stated it had no involvement in Lazarus, just that certain parties claiming to speak for the NPO were out of line and that certain political mistakes have been made that are being addressed internally.

Feux did not speak for the NPO while he was regent? Using his admin powers on the NPO forum to set up the infrastructure for the NLO state? Helping to pull in pilers from the NPO's CN branch? That's quite a lot of baggage to wait until after the NLO was ousted to address...

Intresting, do you have a link showning the CN pull?

[Prostokvashino]

This is a somewhat general statement. The NPO has not stated it had no involvement in Lazarus, just that certain parties claiming to speak for the NPO were out of line and that certain political mistakes have been made that are being addressed internally.

Feux did not speak for the NPO while he was regent? Using his admin powers on the NPO forum to set up the infrastructure for the NLO state? Helping to pull in pilers from the NPO's CN branch? That's quite a lot of baggage to wait until after the NLO was ousted to address...

Their forums still even contain clear references to the government in Lazarus being part of the joint "Orders" under the Pacific's auspices.