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Arana
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Postby Arana » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:44 pm

Interesting. I have a few questions.

1) Do you allow nations with multiple religions? For example, Arana contains a mix of various Christian denominations, Mayan pagans, Muslims, Atheists, and many smaller groups.

2) What is the Alliance's view on gay rights?

3) What is the Alliance's view on evolution vs creationism vs intelligent design?

4) Is this a region, or an alliance?
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:55 pm

Arana wrote:Interesting. I have a few questions.


Alright! :)

Arana wrote:1) Do you allow nations with multiple religions? For example, Arana contains a mix of various Christian denominations, Mayan pagans, Muslims, Atheists, and many smaller groups.


It's more of a matter of how you treat these issues. For instance, are you encouraging non-Christian/pagan religions? Are you supporting them? You aren't required to stone them or anything - that's certainly not Christian - but we do expect our nations to do something Christlike towards heathens. For instance, you could have missionaries, something like that.

Arana wrote:2) What is the Alliance's view on gay rights?


A true Christian will make the Bible the basis of his worldviews. What about gay rights? Well, what does the Bible say? The Bible teaches that in the beginning, God made them 'male and female', and the doctrine of marriage is clearly established in Genesis. Again, there is no scriptural support to 'stone the gays', but we do ask that you do something about it. For instance, rehabilitation or counseling. Since even Christ teaches that marriage is between a man and a woman, we should take scripture at face value - marriage is between a man and a woman, and homosexual behavior - like other sins - is wrong.

Arana wrote:3) What is the Alliance's view on evolution vs creationism vs intelligent design?


Again, what does the Bible say? The Bible says that God made the heavens and the earth, and this was obviously recent (within the last 10,000 years). Since Creation v. Evolution is [url=[/quote]]not a salvation issue[/url], it is not a requirement in the Alliance. However, we encourage people to believe in Creation, because it's true. Why? Short answer: the Bible says.

Arana wrote:4) Is this a region, or an alliance?


It's a region with the name Alliance of Protestant Nations, but we are essentially an alliance working within the regional structure. For now, membership is determined by the presence of one's nation in the region. This may change in the future if outside parties express an interest.
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Postby The Most Reverend Archbishop of Wessex » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:02 pm

His Grace The Lord Archbishop of Wessex sends his blessings and prayers to all peoples and nations of good faith who spread Christ's love and mercy here and anywhere.

May God bless this noble endeavor and should any support be required, His Grace and the Church of Wessex as a whole will be on the front-line where God calls.

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Postby Arana » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:20 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Arana wrote:Interesting. I have a few questions.


Alright! :)

Arana wrote:1) Do you allow nations with multiple religions? For example, Arana contains a mix of various Christian denominations, Mayan pagans, Muslims, Atheists, and many smaller groups.


It's more of a matter of how you treat these issues. For instance, are you encouraging non-Christian/pagan religions? Are you supporting them? You aren't required to stone them or anything - that's certainly not Christian - but we do expect our nations to do something Christlike towards heathens. For instance, you could have missionaries, something like that.

Arana wrote:2) What is the Alliance's view on gay rights?


A true Christian will make the Bible the basis of his worldviews. What about gay rights? Well, what does the Bible say? The Bible teaches that in the beginning, God made them 'male and female', and the doctrine of marriage is clearly established in Genesis. Again, there is no scriptural support to 'stone the gays', but we do ask that you do something about it. For instance, rehabilitation or counseling. Since even Christ teaches that marriage is between a man and a woman, we should take scripture at face value - marriage is between a man and a woman, and homosexual behavior - like other sins - is wrong.

Arana wrote:3) What is the Alliance's view on evolution vs creationism vs intelligent design?


Again, what does the Bible say? The Bible says that God made the heavens and the earth, and this was obviously recent (within the last 10,000 years). Since Creation v. Evolution is [url=
]not a salvation issue[/url], it is not a requirement in the Alliance. However, we encourage people to believe in Creation, because it's true. Why? Short answer: the Bible says.

Arana wrote:4) Is this a region, or an alliance?


It's a region with the name Alliance of Protestant Nations, but we are essentially an alliance working within the regional structure. For now, membership is determined by the presence of one's nation in the region. This may change in the future if outside parties express an interest.[/quote]
Well, you had me... and then you lost me.

As far as #1 goes, I can deal with that. But then you went on with the rest of it. Any nation that practices discrimination cannot be a truly Christian nation. I'm going to avoid ranting on this and bringing up Jesus quotes to support my argument and just sum things up by saying that in my nation, homosexuals aren't treated as if there's something wrong with them, and instead are treated exactly the same as everyone else. Also, I would like to point out that Christ does not mention homosexuality once. In fact, it is referenced only once in the entire New Testament, by somebody who never actually met Jesus. So yeah.

And then I'd also like to add that the Bible was written by men, and men are flawed. So maybe basing your worldview entirely off the Bible isn't exactly the best idea.

Honestly, as a rather devout Protestant myself, I would've considered being a part of this if I wasn't concerned about bigotry (and I'm not even going to get into the whole evolution debate, although I will point out I believe in a form of intelligent design). Was hoping that this would be different than what I had expected, but evidently I was right.

Oh well.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:25 pm

The Most Reverend Archbishop of Wessex wrote:His Grace The Lord Archbishop of Wessex sends his blessings and prayers to all peoples and nations of good faith who spread Christ's love and mercy here and anywhere.

May God bless this noble endeavor and should any support be required, His Grace and the Church of Wessex as a whole will be on the front-line where God calls.

In His name,
+ The Most Rev'd. Archbishop


Thank you for your support, God Bless you, and remember that you are always welcome in our region.
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Postby Stalwart Allies » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:06 pm

Arana wrote:...as a rather devout Protestant myself...
And then I'd also like to add that the Bible was written by men, and men are flawed. So maybe basing your worldview entirely off the Bible isn't exactly the best idea.


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Postby Stalwart Allies » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:20 pm

Perhaps I should be more helpful.

Any nation that practices discrimination cannot be a truly Christian nation.


Comrade Archeuland never said anything about discrimination.

I'm going to avoid ranting on this and bringing up Jesus quotes to support my argument and just sum things up by saying that in my nation, homosexuals aren't treated as if there's something wrong with them, and instead are treated exactly the same as everyone else.


Completely irrelevant.

Also, I would like to point out that Christ does not mention homosexuality once. In fact, it is referenced only once in the entire New Testament, by somebody who never actually met Jesus. So yeah.


Also irrelevant.

And then I'd also like to add that the Bible was written by men, and men are flawed. So maybe basing your worldview entirely off the Bible isn't exactly the best idea.

Honestly, as a rather devout Protestant myself, I would've considered being a part of this if I wasn't concerned about bigotry (and I'm not even going to get into the whole evolution debate, although I will point out I believe in a form of intelligent design). Was hoping that this would be different than what I had expected, but evidently I was right.


Maybe you should stop being a Protestant then. Because you cannot simultaneously be a devout member of a group and reject the core principals of the group.

I would like to see your brand of Christianity that doubts the Bible.
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Corvus Corax
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Postby Corvus Corax » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:39 pm

I'm interested when we all see real Christian Crusader Army (Raider) ravaging across the Taglands haunting, crashing, subjucating, and converting natives violently to the Right Faith in the Name of Jesus Christ, using WA-nations blessed by GOD (but provided and maintained by Max Barry Inc.) as a tools of inquisitory hostilities against pagans, infidels and disbelievers, for spreading the words of J.Nazarene via force. If that scenario becomes to reality then Cimmerians must re-evaluate their degree of Raider Purity.

All Christian Churches (as well as temples of all others false Gods then The Cult of Crom and The Almighty Raideron) already burned down in Theocratic Totalitarian Raider Witch-Queendom of Cimmeria. :p
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The Great Mormon Hope of Mitt Romney
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Postby The Great Mormon Hope of Mitt Romney » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:36 pm

I would like to join this region and help continue the spirit of reform that spurred on Martin Luther and Calvin.

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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:13 pm

The Great Mormon Hope of Mitt Romney wrote:I would like to join this region and help continue the spirit of reform that spurred on Martin Luther and Calvin.


That's fantastic. Feel free to join any time.
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Postby Dewhurst-Narculian WA Office » Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:27 pm

Would a nation with a population of ~149 Million Protestants be welcome? After all ~83% of our Christian demographic are Protestants
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Postby Stalwart Allies » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:26 pm

Dewhurst-Narculian WA Office wrote:Would a nation with a population of ~149 Million Protestants be welcome? After all ~83% of our Christian demographic are Protestants


I believe the player matters to us more then the (for lack of a better term) imaginary citizens.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:49 pm

Dewhurst-Narculian WA Office wrote:Would a nation with a population of ~149 Million Protestants be welcome? After all ~83% of our Christian demographic are Protestants


By all means, you would be most welcome!
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:18 pm

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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:39 pm

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Postby Corvus Corax » Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:45 pm

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:Our new advertisement!



You should really think about forming the R/D Raider Crusader army, as it would be more effective mean E-vangelize all around with religious WA-Crusaders then it is without the functional Army of Heaven. If you loose your Christian standards little bit and accept also Roman Catholics and Orhdodox Christians too things would develop faster. The Archangels (Highest military ranks After Commander-in-Chief) are same anyway. If you take even more easier and accept also muslims, buddhists, hinduists etc. to your heavenly army, nothing can stop you as the New Age geeks can always form the Vanguard.

Worth to try, otherwise there are not much GP-like in this bulwark, only some low quality RMB recruiting with and for dubious reasons and Causes. Without an Army your every Bulwarks are weak, defenseless and uninteresting. :kiss:

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Postby Western-Ukraine » Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:34 pm

What is your opinion on the mainline European Evangelical Lutheran Church?
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Postby Rifty » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:36 am

You guys take in gays?
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Postby District XIV » Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:50 am

Rifty wrote:You guys take in gays?

This should answer your question:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Arana wrote:2) What is the Alliance's view on gay rights?


A true Christian will make the Bible the basis of his worldviews. What about gay rights? Well, what does the Bible say? The Bible teaches that in the beginning, God made them 'male and female', and the doctrine of marriage is clearly established in Genesis. Again, there is no scriptural support to 'stone the gays', but we do ask that you do something about it. For instance, rehabilitation or counseling. Since even Christ teaches that marriage is between a man and a woman, we should take scripture at face value - marriage is between a man and a woman, and homosexual behavior - like other sins - is wrong.

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Postby Stalwart Allies » Wed Nov 26, 2014 7:47 am

Western-Ukraine wrote:What is your opinion on the mainline European Evangelical Lutheran Church?


They have bad initials.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:51 am

District XIV wrote:
Rifty wrote:You guys take in gays?

This should answer your question:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
A true Christian will make the Bible the basis of his worldviews. What about gay rights? Well, what does the Bible say? The Bible teaches that in the beginning, God made them 'male and female', and the doctrine of marriage is clearly established in Genesis. Again, there is no scriptural support to 'stone the gays', but we do ask that you do something about it. For instance, rehabilitation or counseling. Since even Christ teaches that marriage is between a man and a woman, we should take scripture at face value - marriage is between a man and a woman, and homosexual behavior - like other sins - is wrong.


No amount of emotionalism will deny the Biblical fact that homosexual behavior is a sin, XIV. We accept everyone into our region who accepts that they are sinners, and do so with a repentant heart. Anyone who boasts about their sin is not welcome. Anyone who understands it is a sin and makes a solid attempt to show their own repentance is more than welcome.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:52 am

Western-Ukraine wrote:What is your opinion on the mainline European Evangelical Lutheran Church?


I approve of Lutheranism. I don't know the details about the EELC, but it sounds fine. I hope that they haven't succumbed to apostasy.
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Postby Kingdom of Viana » Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:59 am

Roman Catholicism is dominant over Protestantism.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:18 am

Deian salazar wrote:I WILL join but have two requirements:
1:Genevia is non-existant in the sense Alansian nations never existed there.
2:I don't have to be anti-Muslim.I have Muslim friends and am intrigued by Muslim history.


We would like to have you, but we do still use the Genevievian map. No one is required to use it, but they are encouraged to.

The Alansian nations are no longer on the map - it is empty of any one besides us.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:19 am

Kingdom of Viana wrote:Roman Catholicism is dominant over Protestantism.


We're a region for all Christians, but we have based our thinking off of the Reformers. We need to remember that the whole intent of the Reformation was not to create a brand new church, but to reform the existing church from the inside.
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