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Postby Funkadelia » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:29 pm

Ikania wrote:I'm just as Lazarene as him, and it's completely bullshit. If I said that a month ago I would have been banned.

I don't think a true Lazarene would try a coup and destroy the community.
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Postby District XIV » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:33 pm

Funkadelia wrote:
Ikania wrote:I'm just as Lazarene as him, and it's completely bullshit. If I said that a month ago I would have been banned.

I don't think a true Lazarene would try a coup and destroy the community.

"To build a better world, sometimes means tearing the old one down."

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Postby The Holy Dominion Fed » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:37 pm

Hobbesistan wrote:
The Holy Dominion Fed wrote:I'm laughing at the fact that this is being considered a Fascist region coming from an Imperialist. Oh my word, this is just too great.


Since i chewed out a imp puppet, time to chew out someones fender puppet.


if you're going to talk shat, don't hide behind a puppet please.

Cry me a river. I was too busy setting up a region To be bothered with switching. Maybe if you weren't a pretentious ass, I'd tell you.

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Postby Feux » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:38 pm

District XIV wrote:
Funkadelia wrote:I don't think a true Lazarene would try a coup and destroy the community.

"To build a better world, sometimes means tearing the old one down."

That would apply both ways, your quote.
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Postby Barunei » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:39 pm

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Ikania wrote:I'm just as Lazarene as him, and it's completely bullshit. If I said that a month ago I would have been banned.

I don't think a true Lazarene would try a coup and destroy the community.


I would like to ask you what does it mean to be a "true Lazarene"?
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Postby The Dourian Embassy » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:46 pm

Funkadelia wrote:
Ikania wrote:I'm just as Lazarene as him, and it's completely bullshit. If I said that a month ago I would have been banned.
I don't think a true Lazarene would try a coup and destroy the community.


So what, true Lazarenes are the ones that agree with you? I love how as long as people are quiet you say "Well such and such hasn't said he was oppressed, or kicked out, or anything. You're putting words into the mouth of people," then the moment Ikania speaks out he's not a true Lazarene? Why is it HIS responsibility to take a hit for the team and bow out? Why is it his responsibility to avoid tearing the community apart? Is it possible you're just wrong here? And he's not trying to tear the community apart but to bring it together?

Is it possible that you're tearing the community apart when you tell people they're fired from positions and may very well face sedition charges soon before even finding out what's going on?

Is it possible you're making people leave the community for not adhering to a dogmatic view of defenderism?

Is it at all possible that any of this is your fault?

I'm starting to think you believe all this, which is honestly even worse for Lazarus than the alternative of you just faking it. If you genuinely believe you can't ever be wrong... you'll hold onto power until the region crumbles in your hands. And it will. And building it back up is going to be harder than ever. You need to take a long hard look at yourself and decide what path you're willing to take Lazarus down.

Hell. I might've disagreed with Milo on a lot of things but at least he knew how to build Lazarus up and not tear it to pieces. I'd settle for his Lazarus any day over this shadow.
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Postby District XIV » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:48 pm

Feux wrote:
District XIV wrote:"To build a better world, sometimes means tearing the old one down."

That would apply both ways, your quote.

Yes, but the way that I implied it is that sometimes "a coup and destroy[ing] the community" is necessary 'to build a better world'.

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Postby Ikania » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:56 pm

Funkadelia wrote:
Ikania wrote:I'm just as Lazarene as him, and it's completely bullshit. If I said that a month ago I would have been banned.

I don't think a true Lazarene would try a coup and destroy the community.

Llamas told you that, didn't he? Regardless of whatever theory you may have about me, I think being a true Lazarene constitutes doing what is best for the region, not for the dictatorship that governs it. Thank you Douria.

And as for a coup, I'm of a mind that it's time for another revolution.
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Postby Feux » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:56 pm

District XIV wrote:
Feux wrote:That would apply both ways, your quote.

Yes, but the way that I implied it is that sometimes "a coup and destroy[ing] the community" is necessary 'to build a better world'.

Yes, I understand that. Nothing changes.
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Postby Funkadelia » Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:58 pm

Ikania wrote:
Funkadelia wrote:I don't think a true Lazarene would try a coup and destroy the community.

Llamas told you that, didn't he? Regardless of whatever theory you may have about me, I think being a true Lazarene constitutes doing what is best for the region, not for the dictatorship that governs it. Thank you Douria.

And as for a coup, I'm of a mind that it's time for another revolution.

Well at least you're not afraid to admit that you are or were attempting a coup.
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Postby Kazmr » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:01 pm

The Dourian Embassy wrote:Hell. I might've disagreed with Milo on a lot of things but at least he knew how to build Lazarus up and not tear it to pieces. I'd settle for his Lazarus any day over this shadow.


:eyebrow:
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:rofl:

Basicaly summed up my reaction to this line. Every single day of Milograd's chairmanship we sat through an endless torrent of shit from, well, everyone that wasn't our ally; raider, independent, imperialist, etc. Milograd's an evil couper, Milograd destroyed the community, Milograd's an NPO front, Milograd sacrifices children on the alter of Satan (well maybe not that last one, but you get the picture). Your statement there may just be the hollowest criticism of the current PRL yet; now that he isn't in power you suddenly hold him up on a pedestel? For fuck's sake, the biggest criticism of him from you lot was exactly that you claimed he tore the community to pices.

I think you've basically shown just how deep into the mud you are willing to wade in order to try and find something to sling at us.
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Postby Ikania » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:10 pm

Funkadelia wrote:
Ikania wrote:Llamas told you that, didn't he? Regardless of whatever theory you may have about me, I think being a true Lazarene constitutes doing what is best for the region, not for the dictatorship that governs it. Thank you Douria.

And as for a coup, I'm of a mind that it's time for another revolution.

Well at least you're not afraid to admit that you are or were attempting a coup.

I was. I won't hide it. And I had several people of the same opinion who were in on it. But I was like fuck it. Let Lazarus fall. Move back when the PRL is gone. Because it's not worth taking control of a region that's going to shit anyway. You already got rid of everyone good, I'll just wait for you to crumble.
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Postby Solorni » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:12 pm

"you lot", "true lazarenes". I just love the sweeping generalizations and making it all about "true" Lazarenes against "you lot" :P
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Postby Kazmr » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:13 pm

Ikania wrote:You already got rid of everyone good


:(

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Postby Alterran Republic » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:18 pm

Solorni wrote:"you lot", "true lazarenes". I just love the sweeping generalizations and making it all about "true" Lazarenes against "you lot" :P

And neither side seems to be a not true Lazarene... :roll:
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Postby Ikania » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:22 pm

Kazmr wrote:
Ikania wrote:You already got rid of everyone good


:(

I'm good

<3 luv u bby

But honestly, what have you done in Lazarus since your term? The only people left are from the old gang, and they're all inactive, as well as the Congress.

The only active people besides the Chairman and Vice are Ainin and Lenny, who Funk has accused of being a spy.
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Postby Hobbesistan » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:23 pm

Kazmr wrote:
Ikania wrote:You already got rid of everyone good


:(

I'm good

But you are obviously in on the zionist superfender conspiracy to purge erryone who isnt superfender!


Personally, Milo's lazarus had balls; we got stuff done, now it's all of the commiefender kool aid that is clouding the common sense and logic in the PRL.

For example, we weren't bestest friends with the OFO, but we respected eachover, because both parties agreed it was a game and we just had different ways of playing it; Some people in the PRL have escalated it far beyond that, which, honestly, brings us where we are now.

The people of Lazarus need to respond to important matters with stuff other then 'o/o/o/ hail chairman \o\o\o' if they want true change. They should not trust whoever is at top to make decisions for them, but they should trust themselves to decide if that decision is right. I would have the same opinion if I was chairman right now or here as root in exile.

We didin't create the PRL to become this, hell, the idea was transitional democracy, but that's aside the point, We wanted the citizenry involved, we did not want a rubber stamp congress and a citizenry not involved beyond hailing the chairman at every turn. We achieved that with Harm, Milo and Kazmr, but it's really gone off the rails here with Funk.

I was here looking at the PC, wondering why they aren't outraged by such manuevering, this kind of thing is what the PC was made for, and then it hit me; they don't know any better. And for that, i wish the best of luck to the PRL, they'll need it at the current state of affairs.
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Postby Tano » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:23 pm

Ikania wrote:
Kazmr wrote:
:(

I'm good

<3 luv u bby

But honestly, what have you done in Lazarus since your term? The only people left are from the old gang, and they're all inactive, as well as the Congress.

The only active people besides the Chairman and Vice are Ainin and Lenny, who Funk has accused of being a spy.

Wait, lenny a spy? That's fucking hilarious :lol:
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Postby Solorni » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:23 pm

When did Funkedelia accuse Lenny of being a spy?
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Postby Ikania » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:28 pm

Solorni wrote:When did Funkedelia accuse Lenny of being a spy?

A while ago. He said a multitude of things in July to me, but Llamas told me long before. Of course I told Lenny this. Why not? I was leaving anyway.
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Postby The Dourian Embassy » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:29 pm

Kazmr wrote:I think you've basically shown just how deep into the mud you are willing to wade in order to try and find something to sling at us.


First of all you're attributing opinions to me on the topic of Milograd that simply aren't true. Second, I don't need to step into mud to sling anything. Your own people know this is a crappy situation. I am not here to score points for Osiris or Imperialists or politics.

Lazarus is in crisis dude. If you don't want people outside of it telling you about it then maybe you oughta wake up and help fix your home. Hell. I don't care if no one listens to me about any of this... but... seriously... Lazarus is burning down around you. I'm worried that you aren't even noticing.
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Postby Karpathos » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:31 pm

:rofl:

So a bunch of Imps pile GP (standard operating procedure) and we're supposed to care about your assessments and outrages,
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Postby Ikania » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:36 pm

Ikania wrote:
Solorni wrote:When did Funkedelia accuse Lenny of being a spy?

A while ago. He said a multitude of things in July to me, but Llamas told me long before. Of course I told Lenny this. Why not? I was leaving anyway.

Basically Funk said that Lenny was a spy from Europeia intent on forumcrashing us.

Kazmr, Lazarus is crumbling, and you need to see that. The government's basically collapsed, and Funk only made it worse by banning Hobbes. His intolerance for free speech, like that of any Communist country, eventually caused this shitstorm.
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Postby The Dourian Embassy » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:41 pm

Karpathos wrote::rofl:

So a bunch of Imps pile GP (standard operating procedure) and we're supposed to care about your assessments and outrages,


No. Forget about me. Care about your region rather than your ideology. That's how you fix things.
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Postby Ikania » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:43 pm

The Dourian Embassy wrote:
Karpathos wrote::rofl:

So a bunch of Imps pile GP (standard operating procedure) and we're supposed to care about your assessments and outrages,


No. Forget about me. Care about your region rather than your ideology. That's how you fix things.

But then I'm not a true Lazarene! Or at least, according to true Lazarene Funk.
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