Eurovision 2024 thread

[Kinqueven]

Well, all the songs for the ESC 2024 in Malmö have come out and predictions are flying from Armenia to Ukraine. From Croatia winning to Joost being a fan favorite, a lot is happening befor the competition in May.

Tell me what y'all think about Eurovision 2024.

You may say what country you're from, but try to speak in english if you wish.

[Turenia]

Eurovision 2024!

*collective groan*

[Kerwa]

It’s not the same without terry.

[Durius]

I think there are some good songs this year. I haven't listen to all of them yet, but I do appreciate the fact that we have a lot songs in languages other than English. I like the presence of folk, but I do miss the rock a bit.

One thing is for certain, it will be another edition full of politics. I wonder how big will be the shitshow with Israel (or how well EBU will censor the criticism) Personally, I likely will just skip the performance (a challenge as it is between two entries I want to watch), as a compromise between wanting to see the show I've been watching for decades and still opposing the participation of Israel.

edit: Also, we have the return of Luxembourg after 31 years!

[Kinqueven]

I really think Ukraine is overrated. It's practically a diss track for Mother Teresa, but in the most Mother Teresa way.

[Kvatchdom]

Along with my country's victory being stolen last year by a repeat winner, and with Israel's participation, we have chosen to simply boycott the whole thing instead of just turning the TV off when Israel is on. EBU needs to get it's shit together.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Ive only listened to the Irish Entry this year, and i think its okay, definitely a lot better and more interesting than entries we have sent before so im hoping it gets into the final and does well

[The Blaatschapen]

Ive only listened to the Irish Entry this year, and i think its okay, definitely a lot better and more interesting than entries we have sent before so im hoping it gets into the final and does well

Not better than Dustin.

[Elejamie]

Yeah, the only songs I really like are Estonia and Italy, though I'm also quite fond of Lithuania's entry. The problem is that virtually everything else is either bland and boring (France, Portugal, Moldova), just outright terrible (Greece, Ireland, even my home country the UK), OK but not really worth listening to a whole lot (Norway, Belgium, probably Finland) or, in the case of Croatia, not a bad song but completely ruined by the massive hype to the point where it feels a bit astroturfed and being horribly unfunny. And that's not a case of humour being subjective, I've seen the performance and read the lyrics and I cannot for the life of me find where the joke is. I'm honestly really tempted to just skip it this year.

[Ifreann]

Have they kicked Israel out yet?

[The Blaatschapen]

Yeah, the only songs I really like are Estonia and Italy, though I'm also quite fond of Lithuania's entry. The problem is that virtually everything else is either bland and boring (France, Portugal, Moldova), just outright terrible (Greece, Ireland, even my home country the UK), OK but not really worth listening to a whole lot (Norway, Belgium, probably Finland) or, in the case of Croatia, not a bad song but completely ruined by the massive hype to the point where it feels a bit astroturfed and being horribly unfunny. And that's not a case of humour being subjective, I've seen the performance and read the lyrics and I cannot for the life of me find where the joke is. I'm honestly really tempted to just skip it this year.

What's your opinion of the song of the Netherlands?

[Elejamie]

Yeah, the only songs I really like are Estonia and Italy, though I'm also quite fond of Lithuania's entry. The problem is that virtually everything else is either bland and boring (France, Portugal, Moldova), just outright terrible (Greece, Ireland, even my home country the UK), OK but not really worth listening to a whole lot (Norway, Belgium, probably Finland) or, in the case of Croatia, not a bad song but completely ruined by the massive hype to the point where it feels a bit astroturfed and being horribly unfunny. And that's not a case of humour being subjective, I've seen the performance and read the lyrics and I cannot for the life of me find where the joke is. I'm honestly really tempted to just skip it this year.

What's your opinion of the song of the Netherlands?

It's OK but the problem is that it feels like Joost tried to make his style more palatable for Eurovision audiences and, as a result, it sounds a bit too clean and there's no real heft, no real punch to it. Shame because I really wanted to like it.

Have they kicked Israel out yet?

No, they're still going to Malmö. Then again, Russia was kicked out of Eurovision 2022 because a whole load of broadcasters threatened to boycott the contest. This year, it was Iceland raising a fuss and even then it felt a bit half-arsed and cynical (drawing it out and then anticlimactically agreeing to take part).

[Durius]

Have they kicked Israel out yet?

No, they're still going to Malmö. Then again, Russia was kicked out of Eurovision 2022 because a whole load of broadcasters threatened to boycott the contest. This year, it was Iceland raising a fuss and even then it felt a bit half-arsed and cynical (drawing it out and then anticlimactically agreeing to take part).

Finland also flirted with the idea of a boycott. There was also a campaign in Ireland, but I don't think RTÉ ever publicly considered it. But that was about it, irrc.

[Turenia]

Have they kicked Israel out yet?

Hopefully not.

[Ifreann]

No, they're still going to Malmö. Then again, Russia was kicked out of Eurovision 2022 because a whole load of broadcasters threatened to boycott the contest. This year, it was Iceland raising a fuss and even then it felt a bit half-arsed and cynical (drawing it out and then anticlimactically agreeing to take part).

Finland also flirted with the idea of a boycott. There was also a campaign in Ireland, but I don't think RTÉ ever publicly considered it. But that was about it, irrc.

Shame. I hope Bambie Thug can at least get some pro-Palestine message in there.

[Turenia]

Finland also flirted with the idea of a boycott. There was also a campaign in Ireland, but I don't think RTÉ ever publicly considered it. But that was about it, irrc.

Shame. I hope Bambie Thug can at least get some pro-Palestine message in there.

A porn-posting, non-binary, pagan pandering to Islamist radicals. Truly a 21st century European classic.

What a joke this continent has become.

[Ifreann]

Shame. I hope Bambie Thug can at least get some pro-Palestine message in there.

A porn-posting, non-binary, pagan pandering to Islamist radicals. Truly a 21st century European classic.

What a joke this continent has become.

Lol, 21st century. Ireland has a rich tradition of shamanic Celtic buzzers, and we're a bit famous for doing terrorism to resist a more powerful neighbour.

[Stratonesia]

Have they kicked Israel out yet?

Not yet. And will not likely be the case.
Russia committed "atrocities" and got kicked out of Eurovision. Years later, Israel is doing the same to the Palestinians, but no one is complaining about it. Their response? "It's just an apolitical song contest!"
FOR REAL, they don't kick Israel out because it's supposed to be apolitical, but they did Russia for "political reasons"? I can't stand the hypocrisy of the apex predators anymore.

[Elejamie]

Have they kicked Israel out yet?

Not yet. And will not likely be the case.
Russia committed "atrocities" and got kicked out of Eurovision. Years later, Israel is doing the same to the Palestinians, but no one is complaining about it. Their response? "It's just an apolitical song contest!"
FOR REAL, they don't kick Israel out because it's supposed to be apolitical, but they did Russia for "political reasons"? I can't stand the hypocrisy of the apex predators anymore.

Except, again, they didn't. A whole load of broadcasters made a huge fuss about it and the Finnish and Estonian broacasters (note those last two sources are in Finnish and Estonian respectively but they are from the broadcasters in question) threatened to withdraw from the contest if Russia was allowed to take part. The EBU caved in, told Russia they had to skip it and both Channel One and VGTRK left the EBU sometime afterwards, presumably to form their own broadcasting union with blackjack and hookers.

This year, most of the outrage came from the fans themselves, not the broadcasters, so any and all protests pretty much fell on deaf ears. That being said, a few countries did speak up but it wasn't really anyone with any real sort of power complaining. Over in Iceland a few songwriters threatened to boycott, RÚV kind of hyped up the Palestinian-born entrant for their national final (who didn't win but took it all in good stride, unlike one of his songwriters and the fanbase) and they dragged out the whole "will we or will we not participate" for far too long before anticlimactically saying they will. A few of the UMK (Finland's national final) contestants said they would probably withdraw but I guess that Windows95Man wasn't one of them, though considering last year I honestly can't blame them for wanting to boycott anyway. And the EBU had to repeatedly tell Israel to change their lyrics because of how political they were and probably would've banned them if they didn't change them.

[Socialist Gestachia]

Ahhh yes Eurovision! The shitty show called Eurovision eventhough the "vision" part could just be omitted as you could just use a radio to broadcast garbage music that isn't worth hearing. And what do you know! You can also omit the "Euro" part as well since Israel is in it! (Really shows that Israel is just a glorfied European neo-colony.) With that what do you get? Nothing! Just like what the "show" truly is!

[Turenia]

Have they kicked Israel out yet?

Not yet. And will not likely be the case.
Russia committed "atrocities" and got kicked out of Eurovision. Years later, Israel is doing the same to the Palestinians, but no one is complaining about it. Their response? "It's just an apolitical song contest!"
FOR REAL, they don't kick Israel out because it's supposed to be apolitical, but they did Russia for "political reasons"? I can't stand the hypocrisy of the apex predators anymore.

Russia illegally invaded a sovereign nation with genocidal intentions and tactics.

Israel responded to a horrific terrorist attack, and was justified in doing so.

Ahhh yes Eurovision! The shitty show called Eurovision eventhough the "vision" part could just be omitted as you could just use a radio to broadcast garbage music that isn't worth hearing. And what do you know! You can also omit the "Euro" part as well since Israel is in it! (Really shows that Israel is just a glorfied European neo-colony.) With that what do you get? Nothing! Just like what the "show" truly is!

I mean, i disagree with the part about Israel, but otherwise you're right. I only watch to laugh at it and to see if i can predict who will award points to whoever else.

[Stratonesia]

Not yet. And will not likely be the case.
Russia committed "atrocities" and got kicked out of Eurovision. Years later, Israel is doing the same to the Palestinians, but no one is complaining about it. Their response? "It's just an apolitical song contest!"
FOR REAL, they don't kick Israel out because it's supposed to be apolitical, but they did Russia for "political reasons"? I can't stand the hypocrisy of the apex predators anymore.

Russia illegally invaded a sovereign nation with genocidal intentions and tactics.

Israel responded to a horrific terrorist attack, and was justified in doing so.

There is nothing "justifiable" about it. Remember Hind Rajab? Remember Sidra Hassouna? Have they done wrong to the world that their death is "justified"?
I won't tolerate Israel's barbaric tactics and ruthless destruction, even if people think it's "justifiable".

[Ineva]

Russia illegally invaded a sovereign nation with genocidal intentions and tactics.

Israel responded to a horrific terrorist attack, and was justified in doing so.

There is nothing "justifiable" about it. Remember Hind Rajab? Remember Sidra Hassouna? Have they done wrong to the world that their death is "justified"?
I won't tolerate Israel's barbaric tactics and ruthless destruction, even if people think it's "justifiable".

You won't believe it, but we actually have a thread dedicated to conversations like these.

[Stratonesia]

There is nothing "justifiable" about it. Remember Hind Rajab? Remember Sidra Hassouna? Have they done wrong to the world that their death is "justified"?
I won't tolerate Israel's barbaric tactics and ruthless destruction, even if people think it's "justifiable".

You won't believe it, but we actually have a thread dedicated to conversations like these.

Thank you.
Before we get back to the main topic, I want to highlight the ongoing hypocrisy within Eurovision. If they had the resolve to remove Russia from the contest, they should have applied the same standard to Israel.
Regarding Palestine—despite enduring immense suffering—I believe they still have the potential to showcase their talent on the international stage. Perhaps not in Eurovision, but in the ABU TV Song Festival—an alternative platform that doesn't emphasise competition like its European counterpart. It offers a welcoming space for Asian musicians, and Palestinian artists could undoubtedly make their voices heard there."

[Durius]

Ahhh yes Eurovision! The shitty show called Eurovision eventhough the "vision" part could just be omitted as you could just use a radio to broadcast garbage music that isn't worth hearing. And what do you know! You can also omit the "Euro" part as well since Israel is in it! (Really shows that Israel is just a glorfied European neo-colony.) With that what do you get? Nothing! Just like what the "show" truly is!

Friendly reminding that all of North Africa and Middle East is allowed to compete in Eurovision (as Morocco once did). They just don't do it, mostly because of Israel. So, it's not just Israel who is an European neo-colony, all MENA is, according to your englightned interpretation.