What is NSG’s opinion on Cybernetic implants?

[Chudwick]

It doesn’t work when your mental issues come from mental illness which are not completely controlled by antidepressants. I tried it in the summer, didn’t do anything. Chemicals to brain would do perfect for me.

Of course, Anti-Depressiva are needed when suffering medical depression, but I didn't mean just going out for short time and be done with it, I mean long sunbathing for tons of Vitamin D. I have chronical depression myself and can confirm that a daylight lamp makes me downright euphoric.

It should also be of note that your experiences may not directly relate to others. whilst I'm inclined to agree with you and can confirm that a big part of my mental health care plan is healthy amounts of sunlight and fresh air, it doesn't make sense to apply this method as an end-all.

[The Holy Therns]

They're a little hard to chew.

[Wormfodder Delivery]

Of course, Anti-Depressiva are needed when suffering medical depression, but I didn't mean just going out for short time and be done with it, I mean long sunbathing for tons of Vitamin D. I have chronical depression myself and can confirm that a daylight lamp makes me downright euphoric.

It should also be of note that your experiences may not directly relate to others. whilst I'm inclined to agree with you and can confirm that a big part of my mental health care plan is healthy amounts of sunlight and fresh air, it doesn't make sense to apply this method as an end-all.

True, however, getting a bit of daylight on your skin doesn't hurt anyways, especially in this season for the northern hemisphere folks.
Back to the topic however, lest it becomes a threadjack

[Laka Strolistandiler]

I think that the ethical-religious side of things will get into issues with this. Just as they did a with anesthesia, vaccination, transplantation, abortion, etc.

Of course it will not stop me from getting the cyberware- ill go to hell regardless of wether I do or do not get them for being a queer so who cares lol

[Chudwick]

I think that the ethical-religious side of things will get into issues with this. Just as they did a with anesthesia, vaccination, transplantation, abortion, etc.

Of course it will not stop me from getting the cyberware- ill go to hell regardless of wether I do or do not get them for being a queer so who cares lol

Religion has never really halted scientific progression for any meaningful amount of time in the modern era. in fact, there are plenty of examples of scientists who also believed in staunch religious practices. I do think that there will be moralists and certain "fringe" sects who will most certainly have qualms about it but given modern precedent, I doubt these groups will have any long-term effect on the development of this technology as a whole.

[Ifreann]

There will be behavioral control implants within 10-15 years. At first they will be seen as a “humane” alternative to prison etc. but will ultimately be mandatory for all but a few “elite” families.

People will vote for this.

And they'll be Tesla implants that will randomly cause people to run into traffic or punch children.

[The Dodo Republic]

Id love to be a Cyborg smh

[The Republic of Western Sol]

Id love to be a Cyborg smh

I know, it sounds awesome

[Inclusive Conservatives 1]

I think there'll be brain implants in my lifetime. Maybe I'll even live long enough to see uploading, but if I think the brain itself will start getting upgrades within two decades or less. That'll make augmentations obviously more capable than what we can achieve with (say) exoskeletons and eyeglasses, as one of the other posters put it.

For myself, I really want a memory implant and a mathematician implant. I don't want to forget stuff anymore, and although I'm already capable of doing math, I want to be able to do math without feeling so awful about it. Like, math feels cripplingly awful to me. Something is wrong with my brain that gets in the way of doing math. If I could offload that processing from my faulty neurons onto an unfeeling chip, I feel like I could enjoy math problems, and then I'd be so much more scientifically useful to the world. There are an awful lot of people on Earth that would be more productive if they were more mathematically competent, so the mathematician implant would be a revolutionary advance in society.

I actually have in my notes a list of augments that I wish I could have, but the memory implant and mathematician implant are primary. I think people would be better to each other if they had memory implants. It would help form up a coherent, cohesive society of people who truly understand one another.

[Teletubieland]

Anyone who thinks this would be cool should look at how this sort of stuff always works out in science fiction. The Borg in Star Trek. The Cybermen in Doctor Who. The Cylons in Battlestar. Human-machine hybrids are never good news and always spend their time oppressing anyone who isn't like them. Nothing good will come out of this.

[Worldly Philosophers]

If cybernetic body parts do become a thing, the only people who will benefit from them are the ultra-wealthy, their soldiers, and whoever else they deem requires it for the purpose of maximizing their health, wealth and security. Optimistically, if you live in a country in the global North that's still livable after runaway climate change has devastated the planet, you might be able to experience the joys of lifelong debt you accrued curing your blindness.

In this sense they will likely be thought of simply as expensive medical, industrial or military hardware are today: capable of improving countless lives, but ultimately an asset kept out of most people's reach

That is my uninformed opinion on cybernetic implants

Anyone who thinks this would be cool should look at how this sort of stuff always works out in science fiction.

Yeah, absorbing the eighth-baked tech parables of hacky 90s tv is a great way to shape your opinions on..... stuff.......

[Ayytaly]

My freedom for a cybernetic arm owned by Elon Musk.

[Kerwa]

There will be behavioral control implants within 10-15 years. At first they will be seen as a “humane” alternative to prison etc. but will ultimately be mandatory for all but a few “elite” families.

People will vote for this.

And they'll be Tesla implants that will randomly cause people to run into traffic or punch children.

You should be so lucky. They’ll be Ford. So you will piss yourself and explode if you sit down too hard.

[Informed Consent]

Anyone who thinks this would be cool should look at how this sort of stuff always works out in science fiction. The Borg in Star Trek. The Cybermen in Doctor Who. The Cylons in Battlestar. Human-machine hybrids are never good news and always spend their time oppressing anyone who isn't like them. Nothing good will come out of this.

In the mid 80's, National Geographic did a cybernetics article using illustrations of contemporary prosthetics and artificial organs superimposed over a photo of Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Pretty campy.
Then in the mid 90's, I saw Ghost in the Shell.
Pretty cool, but soon after I was pretty much over it because, yeah, those two decades dumped all of the robocybernet dystopia a body could handle for three life times.
The Matrix wasn't revolutionary.
It was a cultural coup de grace.

[The Black Forrest]

Like the last topic? Only if I can be JC Denton.

[Chudwick]

Anyone who thinks this would be cool should look at how this sort of stuff always works out in science fiction. The Borg in Star Trek. The Cybermen in Doctor Who. The Cylons in Battlestar. Human-machine hybrids are never good news and always spend their time oppressing anyone who isn't like them. Nothing good will come out of this.

is transhumanism necessarily a bad thing though? I think it fair to say that, and of course, given the subject matter it is currently only speculative, the next step in evolution could be one of self-enhancement, in order to defy nature to the extremes that it would seem are necessary to advance.

[PhilTech]

If Cybernetic Implants will become openly available for civilian population in the future, they will become like tattoos of tomorrow.

Is either you have a small one in your arm, or you will be viewed with disgust and disdain by having an implant in your neck or face - same with tattoos we have now.

[Inclusive Conservatives 1]

I think it's not a foregone conclusion that inequality will be the result of cybernetic implants. If they considerably improve the capabilities of people who are today poor, the improved economic performance on the bottom of the economy will result in a more egalitarian future. This is especially true if function-improving cybernetics are made available without inflicting debts onto people. Make them part of the welfare state. It'll feed economies of scale that bring down costs instead of leaving augmentation trapped in the prison of elitism. A policy of mass augmentations for the poor will also provide a way for welfare spending to juice the economy, which will long-term erode opposition to welfare budgets.

I want to bring up mathematician implants again. Think about how much different economic attainment levels would be if the floor of mathematical literacy were much higher than it is today. If basic math skills could be packaged up and delivered in a common skillsoft... Deliver that to the poor and the poorest demographics will become overrepresented in research!

[Bovad]

Anyone who thinks this would be cool should look at how this sort of stuff always works out in science fiction. The Borg in Star Trek. The Cybermen in Doctor Who. The Cylons in Battlestar. Human-machine hybrids are never good news and always spend their time oppressing anyone who isn't like them. Nothing good will come out of this.

Those are all fiction

[Valentine Z]

It *may* have a chance of closing the Analog Hole, which is not a good thing, to be clear.

So the thing is that regardless of DRMs, anti piracy measures, and everything else along the way, even the most stringent thing can be copied or told to other people just because the person has seen, heard, felt, etc. That's why in those closed-screenings, people often have to sign a NDA, because someone with a good memory can replicate, draw, etc. You can very well let only one person listen to a song once and never play it anywhere again, and they can still hum it or even replicate it.

Bottom line with cybernetic enhancements, and I know very well I'm going into hyperbole but damn, imagine I can't look at my own bedroom because my eye has all sorts of licensing software that expired. Or pixelating my legs because "My privilege to look at Nike stuff has finished its trial version."

EDIT: God help you if they cram ads into your eyes.

[Imperial State]

That'd be pretty based. MGRR and all that.

No, but seriously, it'd probably help people with lost limbs and whatnot, so as long as it's not used in a way that would violate privacy.