Arvenia wrote:Hasn't the map been updated yet?
Will be updating it tonight.
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by Arvenia » Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:49 am
Nation Name: Kingdom of Scandinavia (Konungariket Skandinavien/Kongeriget Skandinavien/Kongeriket Skandinavia/Konungsríki Skandinavíu/Kongsríki Skandinavia/Kunngeqarfik Skandinavia/Skandinavian Kuningaskunta/Skandinavvia Gonagasriika)
Culture(s): Scandinavian/Nordic
Territory: Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, Greenland, Faroe Islands, Svalbard, Jan Mayen, Western India, Saint-Barthelémy, Guadeloupe, Laccadives, Timor-Leste, East Nusa Tenggara, Danish Virgin Islands, Walvis Bay and the rest of the Arctic Archipelago
Capital City: Stockholm
Population:
Government Type : Unitary Absolute Hereditary Monarchy
Head of State: King Gustav III
Head of Government: Same as above
Government Description: I expect at least a (1) paragraph. You do not have to describe all ministries, departments and provinces of your country but I want to know A) how your country is administered, B) how local governments function.
Majority/State Religion: Lutheranism
Economic Description: I expect at least one (1) paragraph. Explain how advanced your economy is, how your economy works (free-market capitalism? heavily regulated economy?) and the major products of your country.
Development: Industrialized, pre-industrialized or primitive? Remember to be realistic, and that if you choose 'industrialized' you will have to justify it in your history.
Army Description:
Army Weakness:
Naval Description:
Naval Weakness:
National Goals: What are the objectives your nation aims to follow?
National Issues: State which problems plague your nation. I expect at the very least two problems.
History: I expect at least two (2) paragraphs of history. If your nation does not follow RL historical development, I expect your history to be more detailed but even if your country is a carbon copy of its RL equivalent, I still expect two paragraphs.
RP Sample: Link. If you are new to the forums and do not have a sample, write a short paragraph so I can check your RP abilities.
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by Upper Upper Polyneisa » Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:53 am
Of the Quendi wrote:
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I believe this reservation has expired, and in that case it probably makes more sense for me to apply for Spain and Portugal. Sorry for the trouble.
Nation Name: The Kingdom of Spain (and the Kingdom of Portugal as a vassal state)
Culture(s): Castilians are the dominant culture.
Territory: As Spain and the Spanish Empire: OTL Spain in 1790 (Red and blue) plus the island of Sardinia, the Duchy of Milan and the Spanish Netherlands
As Portugal and the Portuguese Empire: This
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by Of the Quendi » Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:24 am
Upper Upper Polyneisa wrote:You might want to be aware that Sardinia and Milan appear in other nation's apps (Sicily and Austria, respectively).
by New Luciannova » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:51 pm
Of the Quendi wrote:Upper Upper Polyneisa wrote:You might want to be aware that Sardinia and Milan appear in other nation's apps (Sicily and Austria, respectively).
I noticed Danubian control of Milan. I guess I will have to go with Parma as the poor man's Milan then.
As for the Sicilian application its entire territory overlaps with my claims. I claim both Sicily and Naples as well as Sardinia. So far the Sicilian app has not been accepted though.
by Of the Quendi » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:38 am
New Luciannova wrote:I have no idea where your claims are or what they are and I was told Sicily was available.
Of the Quendi wrote:Territory: As Spain and the Spanish Empire: OTL Spain in 1790 (Red and blue) plus the island of Sardinia, the Duchy of Milan and the Spanish Netherlands
As Portugal and the Portuguese Empire: This
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by New Luciannova » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:41 pm
Of the Quendi wrote:New Luciannova wrote:I have no idea where your claims are or what they are and I was told Sicily was available.Of the Quendi wrote:Territory: As Spain and the Spanish Empire: OTL Spain in 1790 (Red and blue) plus the island of Sardinia, the Duchy of Milan and the Spanish Netherlands
As Portugal and the Portuguese Empire: This
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These are my claims. My application, like yours, has not been accepted so presently Sicily is available.
by Rodez » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:58 pm
Pasong Tirad wrote:Burgenreich wrote:
I should lyk that France already has Corsica in its app, and dealing with a Corsican revolt is supposed to be one of their issues at the start. Unless you asked them for it, ofc.
Thanks for the heads up, I was basing my claim off the updated map which didn't include Corsica. Guess this was a mistake. I won't claim Corsica then. I'll amend my claim to include the province of Frejus which Rodez's application didn't include but Sao Nova Europa did. If this is a mistake I'll gladly retract it and just stick with Nice.
Khasinkonia wrote:I am pleased to announce that my New France application is completed!
American Pere Housh wrote:What nations are available?
Arvenia wrote:Currently WIPNation Name: Kingdom of Scandinavia (Konungariket Skandinavien/Kongeriget Skandinavien/Kongeriket Skandinavia/Konungsríki Skandinavíu/Kongsríki Skandinavia/Kunngeqarfik Skandinavia/Skandinavian Kuningaskunta/Skandinavvia Gonagasriika)
Culture(s): Scandinavian/Nordic
Territory: Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, Greenland, Faroe Islands, Svalbard, Jan Mayen, Western India, Saint-Barthelémy, Guadeloupe, Laccadives, Timor-Leste, East Nusa Tenggara, Danish Virgin Islands, Walvis Bay and the rest of the Arctic Archipelago
Capital City: Stockholm
Population:
Government Type : Unitary Absolute Hereditary Monarchy
Head of State: King Gustav III
Head of Government: Same as above
Government Description: I expect at least a (1) paragraph. You do not have to describe all ministries, departments and provinces of your country but I want to know A) how your country is administered, B) how local governments function.
Majority/State Religion: Lutheranism
Economic Description: I expect at least one (1) paragraph. Explain how advanced your economy is, how your economy works (free-market capitalism? heavily regulated economy?) and the major products of your country.
Development: Industrialized, pre-industrialized or primitive? Remember to be realistic, and that if you choose 'industrialized' you will have to justify it in your history.
Army Description:
Army Weakness:
Naval Description:
Naval Weakness:
National Goals: What are the objectives your nation aims to follow?
National Issues: State which problems plague your nation. I expect at the very least two problems.
History: I expect at least two (2) paragraphs of history. If your nation does not follow RL historical development, I expect your history to be more detailed but even if your country is a carbon copy of its RL equivalent, I still expect two paragraphs.
RP Sample: Link. If you are new to the forums and do not have a sample, write a short paragraph so I can check your RP abilities.
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by American Pere Housh » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:49 am
by Of the Quendi » Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:09 am
New Luciannova wrote:It's up to the moderators how to resolve that. I believe that Malta remains unclaimed, so at least I've got that.
Rodez wrote:The French and British colonies in North America have players now, but there could potentially be a spot as a Spanish or Portuguese colony if the new Iberian player is amenable to that.
American Pere Housh wrote:What is Point of Divergence?
by New Luciannova » Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:37 pm
by American Pere Housh » Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:18 pm
by Intermountain States » Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:37 pm
Intermountain States wrote:Nation Name: Kingdom of Joseon, 대조선국, 大朝鮮國
Culture(s): Korean
Territory: Korean Peninsula, Jeju Island
Capital City: Hanseong (modern day Seoul)
Population: 16,700,000
Government Type : Absolute bureaucratic monarchy
Head of State: King Yi San (temple name Jeongjong/Jeongjo)
Head of Government: Chief State Councillor Seo Myung-sun
Government Description: The government of Joseon is an absolute monarchy with a Confucian-based bureaucracy. The King of the Phoenix Throne rules for life, unlike any of his appointees and all Kings of Joseon descends from the Imperial House of Yi (Jeongju Yi Clan) since its foundation. The King commands absolute loyalty from his officials and subjects, but officials are expected to try to guide the King to the right path if the latter was mistaken and King are usually sensitive to public opinions.
The bureaucratic element of the government is dominated by Confucian scholars who enter service in the government through the civil service exam. All officials are expected to have passed a series of literary and psychological tests that determine their ability to serve the empire. Theoretically, anyone, excluding women, can take the civil service exams but only the wealthy have the money to afford preparations for the exams. However, seeing a lowborn take and pass the exams are not uncommon and are often celebrated in stories.
The monarch of Joseon has advisors from the State Council (which members also serve as ministers) which is the de facto legislative body in Joseon. Supposedly, the Phoenix Throne holds major power in the government with the Ministries/State Council serving as the advisory board but powers of the the King and the Prime change over time with some Emperors serving as absolute monarchs while others leave daily agendas to the Ministries.
Majority/State Religion : The country is largely irreligious due to centuries of Neoconfucian dominance. However, Buddhism is still very common in Korea alongside Taoism and local shaman religions. Christianity is a small but growing religions, coming from Catholic merchants and missionaries from Europe and China, although conversion has been more of a homegrown success rather than foreign endeavors.
Economic Description: Agriculture remains a major industry in the Korean mainland. In fact, it is estimated that the Samhan people consume more than their counterparts in China and Japan. The peninsula is also known for its silk and porcelain production throughout Northeast Asia and it is something valued by many merchants. Outside of agriculture, commerce is a small but a growing important source of income for the country as Joseon begin to embrace a more market oriented economy as trade opened with France and Ming. Mining also plays a role in Korean economy due to the abundance of natural resources in northern Korea. The mun is the currency of Korea backed by silver although rice grains are also used as income among the Koreans.
Development: Pre-industrialized.
Army Description: The aftermath of the Mongol invasion of Goryeo, the Wei Invasion of Joseon in 1454 to 1455, and the seven year Japanese Invasion of Joseon that ended in 1598, saw Joseon placing more emphasis on the military than ever before. The Joseon military also enjoys the backing of powerful artillery and rocketry made to decimate enemy lines. Flintlock muskets are being introduced to the Korean military starting in the northern borders and in the capital whereas matchlocks are still being used by the vast majority. The Joseon Army stands at around 127,000 across the country with more being abled to called up during wartime. Militias known as the Righteous Army have appeared several times throughout the history of Korea when the national armies were in need of assistance against foreign invaders ever since the Khitan invasion of Goryeo and lately the Japanese invasion of Joseon in 1592. Peasants, scholars, former government officials, religious monks, merchants, anyone regardless of background made up such militias. While most of these righteous armies are equipped with hunting equipment and farming tools rather than state-of-the-art weapons employed by the Imperial Army, the irregular militias make up for their equipment shortcomings with patriotic fervor and knowledge of home terrain.
Army Weakness: The army, while well equipped and modern, is very much a static force. The military of Joseon is really a defensive army. . Furthermore, the army, while well drilled, has not seen active combat in quite some time, and this likely would show on the battlefield. The reserved provincial armies, despite numbering much higher than the Imperial Army due to universal male conscription, is not as disciplined compared to the active force and have little experience in combat in comparison to policing and crowd control and may even rout in battle. In fact, much of Korea's early defeat against were because the Japanese were attacking local garrisons of conscripts from cities. Local and provincial magistrates also have control over provincial reserve forces and while magistrates capable of commanding armies is not unheard of, most magistrates were graduates of civil service exams instead of seasoned military officers or those who scored highly on the military officers exam.
Naval Description: The Joseon Navy is in the midst of modernization, having still rely on outdated vessels. The Joseon Navy stands at a size of 51,000 men, nearly half of them being marines dedicated to defending Korea's coastal fortresses. The Joseon Navy has largely been tasked with patrolling Korea's water, only recently the Royal Court has been taking steps to purchase contemporary vessels with the funds they have.
Naval Weakness: As mention above, the Joseon Navy is heavily outdated, utilizing vessels from the 16th century. The Joseon Navy has little experience, having only been used to patrol Korea's water, deal with piracy, and until recently, chasing away foreign merchant vessels. Much of the modernization efforts by the Royal Court have been fixated on the army and the economy whereas the Navy gets little funding of the money geared at modernization.
National Goals: End of Korea's tributary relations with Wei, national reforms aimed improving the lives of common people.
National Issues:
Catholic Question - Catholicism has seen a growth in popularity largely in part by indigenous missionaries but also thanks to European priests. The Catholic religion was tolerated by the Joseon government for over a century as it was seen as a way to break Korea out of Wei's sphere of influence and to carve its own paths. It was also attractive to women, social outcasts, slaves, merchants, etc. due to its near egalitarian promises of the afterlife. However, the growth of Christianity would soon be a bother to Korea's state ideology of Confucianism, its doctrines on ancestral worship and social teachings would clash with the doctrines of Confucianism. Conflicts may soon arise if the faith gets too big and is seen as a "subversive practice."
House Divided - Factions begin to form with scholars and aristocrats of the orthodox Neoconfucian schools on one end of the division and proponents of more liberal schools of thoughts such as Silhak and Seohak on the other. The growth of Christianity in Korea has also gave rise to new movements of Catholic adherents. Merchants and military officers in the north found themselves attracted to the doctrines of Catholicism, having themselves been seen as lowly positions by orthodox Neoconfucianism. While scholarly factionalisms have always appeared in court politics with literai purges and such, this may escalate with more than just court violence with Christianity being a wild card.
History : The 474 year old Kingdom of Goryeo was overthrown by Yi Seonggye (King Taejo) of the Jeonju Yi clan. With both military and public support behind him, Yi Seonggye declares the formation of the Kingdom of Joseon and ensured his dynasty's survival, sending envoys to Ming to ask for legitimacy and exiling remnants of the Goryeo family to Jeju Island. The reign of Taejo Seong-gye saw conflict between his sons over succession rights and after an attempt by military officials and his fifth-born son Yi Bang-won in a military coup, declared his second born son Yi Bang-gwa (temple name Jeongjong) as his successor and abdicated the throne in 1398. Jeongjong was an abled ruler but abdicated after two years of seeing bloodshed between his brothers Crown Prince Yi Bang-won and Yi Bang-gan. Yi Bang-won (Taejong) became King right after, setting forth changes made to ensure that Joseon would be an absolute monarchy instead of a constitutional monarchy planned by his predecessors. Taejong's rise to power was a bloody affair but he proved to be a just and abled ruler, building up national defense and encouraging reforms that improved on the daily lives of the people and limited privileges of the aristocracy. Taejong was succeeded by his third born son Yi Do (immortalized as Sejong the Great) as the fourth King of Joseon. Sejong's reign was marked by various reforms that benefited Joseon. Sejong opened government positions to people of various social classes; encouraged innovation in the fields of science, technology, military, and agriculture; and pushed for the use of the hangul writing system to improve literacy. Sejong was also an interventionist, having sent troops to Tsushima Island to quell the pirate activities and ultimately ended with the island sending tributes to the Korean peninsula. In response to the emboldened border attacks by the Jurchens, Sejong initiated campaigns to pacify the north, building castles across the Amnok (Yalu) River and built settlements south of Amnok.
After Sejong's death in 1450, he was succeeded by his son, Yi Hyang (Munjong) who died just 2 years after being coronated (most of his achievements came when he was a crown prince). Munjong's successor, Yi Hong-wi (Danjong) was only 12 years old when he ascended to the throne and executive responsibilities fell to Chief State Councilor Hwangbo In and Left State Councillor General Kim Jong-seo. One year into his reign, Hong-wi's uncle Yi Yu, also known as Grand Prince Suyang, launched a coup that toppled the regent government and acted as Hong-wi's caretaker. In the late 1440s and early 1450s, the Tatar Wei Dynasty consolidated power over much of Northern China and Manchuria and demanded Joseon to leave the Southern Ming's sphere of influence and into Wei's tributary system in 1454. The Joseon government refused and war broke out between Wei and Joseon. After months of fighting and suffering losses after losses, Joseon surrendered to Wei and entered Wei's sphere of influence. In 1455, Suyang forced Hong-wi to abdicate and was crowned king. While demoted to a prince, Hong-wi still received his title and was posthumously given the temple name Danjong. Despite Suyang overseeing numerous opposition killed for power grab, including his nephew Danjong; he was a strong and able ruler, encouraging publication of history, economics, agricultural, and religious books and was given the temple name Sejo. When Sejo passed away in 1468, his son succeeded him as Yejong of Joseon but died a year later. He was succeeded by his nephew, Yi Hyeol, who became Seongjong of Joseon. Seongjong's reign was marked by growth and prosperity in Joseon. Seonjong passed away at 1494 and was succeeded by his eldest son, Prince Yeongsangun. Although Yeongsangun showed promise as an abled ruler, he grew insane and became a tyrant, soon overthrown and replaced by his half-brother who became Jungjong of Joseon. Jungjong's reign was marked by both internal purges and support for reforms and was ultimately a mixed bag ruler. Jungjong was succeeded by his son who became King Injong. Injong was an ambitious king who attempted to continue Jungjong's failed reforms but was poisoned by his stepmother and was succeeded by his half-brother who became King Myeongjong in 1545.
Myeongjong's reign was marked by a power struggle between his mom Queen Munjeong and his uncle Yun Won-hyeong along with rebellions and invasion from Japanese pirates. Myeongjong died in 1567 without a male heir and was succeeded by his half-nephew Yi Yeon as Seonjo of Joseon. Seonjo focused on improving the lives of the common people and introduced various political and economic reforms and his early reign was marked by growth and prosperity. The Royal Court believed that the current peace and prosperity experienced would continue and some officials talked of easing military burden on the populace. That changed when Joseon was invaded in 1592 by Japan. Although Joseon forces fought valiantly with their cannons, handguns, and archery; they were outgunned by muskets operated by the Japanese and the Royal Court fled to Pyongyang when Japanese troops were close to Hanseong. The Royal Court sent envoys to Wei to ask for military support. That is not to say that there was no hope for the kingdom; military successes at the seas by Admiral Yi Sun-sin hampered Japanese supply lines and guerilla warfare conducted by informal militias known as the Righteous Army provided morale boosts for the Joseon military. During the war, Joseon engineers, at the support of King Seonjo, managed to develop and incorporate muskets into its ranks. Soon the Joseon-Wei coalition retook captured provinces and inflict heavy damage on the tired Japanese forces. In 1598, Japan withdrew from the peninsula. Although Joseon was spared from initial Japanese imperial ambitions, the country itself was ravaged by seven long years of warfare. Seonjo, devastated by the toll of the war, withdrew from politics and left behind Crown Prince Yi Hon, also known as Prince Gwanghae, to rule in his stead.
Gwanghae focused on rebuilding the devastated kingdom by keeping much of the reforms left by former Prime Minister Yu Seung-ryong to spur market and agricultural growth. He sided with the progressive Greater Northerner faction to carry out reforms as opposed to the moderate Southerners and the conservative Westerners. He also reformed the country's defenses with setting up dedicated gunpowder offices to improve on designs based on gunpowder weapons such as cannons, hwachas, and muskets. Gwanghae was ambitious with his military reforms. Some of his reasons for military expansions were based more on Joseon as a self-reliant power that would be independent from Wei with a potential for Joseon to have an Emperor rather than a king. However, he was a realist and knew that Joseon would not survive on its own if isolated and pushed to open Korea to the world. He continued Seonjo's new friendly relations with Wei as gratitude for their help in the war, maintained relations with Ming, and restored diplomatic relations with Japan. However, most of his sons died due to sickness (or political assassinations) and he passed away without an heir in 1641. To ensure survival of the Yi family, court officials selected the son of Prince Neungyang (son of Imjong's half-brother Prince Jeongwon), Prince Sohyeon as the next King of Joseon. Sohyeon continued Imjong's policies of reforms. Sohyeon made contact with French missionaries in Nanjing. Interested in the messages of the western faith, Sohyeon himself converted to Catholicism and taken the baptismal name of Nicholas, although secretly to not draw the ire of the Confucian aristocracy. However, with liberal factions gaining power, opportunities were presented to King Sohyeon for a chance at reforms. He was able to get the courts to agree to allowing a limited presence of Jesuit missionaries and French merchants in Incheon, thus allowing Korea to be somewhat up to date with international happenings. Catholicism in Korea came through China as most missionaries were Chinese converts and Korean diplomats carrying books from missionaries in China. Western texts were translated to classical Chinese for the aristocrats and in Hangul for the common people. Sohyeon’s reign was cut short and he died without an heir in 1653, he received the temple name of Sangjo. The Phoenix throne was then passed to his younger brother Crown Prince Bongrim.
Although Bongrim had presented himself publicly as a conservative figure, one who is cautious of Sohyeon’s far-reaching reforms, he had continued his brother’s policies. The Korean military was tested in battle while supporting Weig forces against barbarian invaders over border conflicts at the Amur River. The Korean musketeers distinguished themselves in battle and returned home with the public celebrating their victories. He passed away in 1659 with the temple name of Hyojong and was replaced by his son Yi Yeon. Yeon continued his father’s reforms but his reign was marked by political fighting between court officials over funeral issues and passed away as a relatively unremarkable ruler, neither a great king like Sejong and Imjong nor a despot like Yeonsangun. He received the temple name of Hyeonjong. He was succeeded by his son Yi Sun in 1674. Sun's reign saw frequent fights between political parties. He regularly switched parties in power and grew the power of the royal authority. Ironically, the intense political battles between factions ensured that political corruption was very low as parties were quick to denounce any nonkosher acts as a sign of corruption and incompetence. The political fights also didn't affect the public and Sun's reign was considered to be one of the most prosperous in history with vast agricultural and cultural developments. He received the temple name Sukjong and was replaced by his son Yi Yun (Gyeongjong) in 1720.
King Gyeongjong reigned for four years before abdicating the throne (either voluntarily or by force) in 1724 in favor of his half-brother Yi Geum. Geum's reign was marked by various economic and political reforms with a growth of merchant activities and reforms in the country's tax codes, including taxing the aristocratic yangban class which was met with heavy opposition from the aristocrats. Geum set forth a policy of ending factional fighting under the policy of Tangpyeong He sponsored the creation of agencies that would root out corruption in the court and sought opinions of the public from peasants to local officials. Military developments focused on efforts to manufacture European firearms and artillery as cooperated with the French enclave. Controversies were made when Geum ordered the death of his son, Crown Prince Sado over accusation of many crimes. Geum passed away in 1776 and was succeeded by his grandson Yi San (courtesy name Hyeongun). Geum received the temple name of Yeongjo.
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